End plate sling mount?

[SpookyPistolero]

Howdy folks-

Search isn't working for me using any browser, so I wanted to ask a quick question.

I want to get an end plate sling mount for a build. I'm looking at a couple of cheaper ones ($15) vs the $30 ones. Is there any reason to go with a specific model, from those who have used them a lot in training/practice? I'm trying to keep costs down since the rest of the build is costing an arm and a leg!

Thanks much-

Oh, these are the ones I was looking at....

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Singl...ual%20hook.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Singl...20car-a-2s.htm

vs this guy...
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Magpu...t-p/mag500.htm

[rychencop]

what kind of sling do you want to use? single point sling go with the Magpul plate and sling. 2 point go with the Noveske or similar and a Vickers sling.

[SpookyPistolero]

Actually hadn't decided that much, but I'm thinking single point. I guess that's a topic unto itself!

Does the 'distal' part of the sling not get in the way on a 2-point? Not much more irritating than too many straps getting in the way when under the gun, so to speak.

[Todd.K]

I dislike HK hooks, they sometimes let go.

I have a very high grip so any endplate that sticks out the side of the receiver bother/pinch the web between my index and thumb.

[dcs12345]

Originally Posted by SpookyPistolero

Actually hadn't decided that much, but I'm thinking single point. I guess that's a topic unto itself!

Does the 'distal' part of the sling not get in the way on a 2-point? Not much more irritating than too many straps getting in the way when under the gun, so to speak.

A 2-point doesn't get in the way. It frees-up both hands unlike a 1-point sling that, without one hand on it, will smack you in the balls and/or knees.

[rob_s]

I don't like plates that stick out the sides, too much conflict with other things in my experience.

this is my current favorite and this is my old favorite. My new favorite is less expensive than my old favorite, which is why I like it more.

[Skintop911]

Here or elsewhere, there was a reasonably lengthy thread about the merits and liabilities of end-plate sling attachment. Critical to their success is to get a high quality unit with good strength, as the plate will be stressed. Bad plates, or bad installation, will cause your critical failures, inc but not limited to your spring and detent going kiddywampus.

There was also advocacy of the bolt-on units (esp the TD PR-4) over the end plate replacements.

LF, perhaps?

Either way, worth reading, and food for thought.

[sovereign]

Originally Posted by Skintop911

Here or elsewhere, there was a reasonably lengthy thread about the merits and liabilities of end-plate sling attachment. Critical to their success is to get a high quality unit with good strength, as the plate will be stressed. Bad plates, or bad installation, will cause your critical failures, inc but not limited to your spring and detent going kiddywampus.

There was also advocacy of the bolt-on units (esp the TD PR-4) over the end plate replacements.

LF, perhaps?

Either way, worth reading, and food for thought.

http://lightfighter.net/eve/forums/a...61/m/132100646

[orionz06]

Originally Posted by Skintop911

Here or elsewhere, there was a reasonably lengthy thread about the merits and liabilities of end-plate sling attachment. Critical to their success is to get a high quality unit with good strength, as the plate will be stressed. Bad plates, or bad installation, will cause your critical failures, inc but not limited to your spring and detent going kiddywampus.

There was also advocacy of the bolt-on units (esp the TD PR-4) over the end plate replacements.

LF, perhaps?

Either way, worth reading, and food for thought.

It goes on and on about how they can go bad when installed poorly, but I would tend to think, based on the way the force is applied, and the forces applied to the Noveske offering, a proper install and periodic check would be ok. The DD, installed properly, is not too far from causing some issues, but those issues would be less of a concern than the failure of the Noveske plate. I guess it would boil down to the competency of the user and the person who installed it.

This is also the first I have seen any mention of the Noveske plate causing issues.

[KellyTTE]

Originally Posted by orionz06

I guess it would boil down to the competency of the user and the person who installed it.

Truth. Like most things if the person performing the work is careful and thorough, a end plate adapter can be installed with minimal fuss.

I've had every type of sling attachment fail on me. HK hooks and Mash hooks are especially suspect in my book, I've had both fail in various applications, in each case dumping the attached rifle into the dirt.



QD's seems to hold up best if you get good ones from known suppliers. The ones Rob pointed out are very nice examples.

[GaryXD]

I've been happy with this one:

http://www.pkfirearms.com/select_options/new/463

[orionz06]

That one does not seem to have anything that extends into the receiver. The Noveske plate has the QD receptacle extend into the lower to prevent significant rotation should the other measures be overcome.

[Zanshin]

I was recently considering putting either

http://www.knightarmco.com/shop/inde...products_id=21

or

http://www.knightarmco.com/shop/inde...products_id=20

on my carbine. I live in a ban state and was going to go with a Sully stock and use the KAC end-plate adapter for a QD sling mount. Any experiences with the KAC units?

I don't think the DD Burnsed QD mounts would work because they fit around the buffer tube, whereas the Sully is set up more like an A2 stock I believe.

Dom

[number9xd]

I've got the Noveske plate with a Vickers 2-point sling and have been happy with it. I haven't ran it through numerous classes / abuse though, so take it FWIW.

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[scottryan]

The noveske plate is superior. It allows the stock to be collapsed all the way and if you use a Vickers low profile male sling plug, there is no chance the stock can unplug the sling.

[dbrowne1]

I've always used the TangoDown PR-4, but only because I lack the ambition to unstake and then restake the receiver extension nut. The replacement plates are a cleaner and more compact solution if made and installed properly.

[99HMC4]

Anything can fail. I use a Vltor end plate and a single point bungee sling with a mash hook. Ive had my HK hooks fail and bend and Ive had one QD mount let go and drop my 870P in the dirt. In the QD case the mount wore grooves where the balls contacnt and just out right wore out. The mash hook has been my most secure this far....

[Mark/MO]

I must agree with scottryan and rob_s . I too went with the Noveske plate, using it with a Vickers 2 point sling. So far I like it but I haven't ran it hard or anything yet so take it for want it's worth.

As orionz06 said, this is the first I've heard of problems with the Noveske plates.

[S391]

I'm a big fan of www.ikickhippies.com and their end plate... I have one on my AR and love it.

[orionz06]

The problem with the IKH one is that there is minimal resistance to rotation. The stamped part extends into the lower, but not as much as the Noveske does. But again, proper maintenance and a quick check of staking and an index mark should negate any issues.