Registered SBR lowers

polymorpheous · #1 11-05-10, 19:13

Grant had Bravo Company SBR lowers.
I missed out...

And it turns out that the Daniel Defense SBR lowers were vaporware.

Do any other manufacturers register there lowers?

shadow65 · #2 11-05-10, 19:17

Why not buy a lower and Form 1 it?

polymorpheous · #3 11-05-10, 19:26

I could. And I may have to.
Bravo still has blem lowers for $250 minus the stock.

But I really don't want to engrave it.

randolph · #4 11-05-10, 19:29

check w/Noveske.

MCASSgt New River · #5 11-05-10, 19:30

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Originally Posted by polymorpheous

Grant had Bravo Company SBR lowers.
I missed out...

And it turns out that the Daniel Defense SBR lowers were vaporware.

Do any other manufacturers register there lowers?

http://www.c3defenseinc.com/kiss/car...productid=2531

You can SBR the receiver on the drop down menu to the right for a simple $10 more.

polymorpheous · #6 11-05-10, 21:02

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Originally Posted by MCASSgt New River

http://www.c3defenseinc.com/kiss/car...productid=2531

You can SBR the receiver on the drop down menu to the right for a simple $10 more.

Thanks for the link.

Billet is not my thing though.

usmcvet · #7 11-05-10, 21:20

I really like the option for ten bucks to buy the G2 lower SBR'd! Not sure abkut the billet lower. You could also just buy a complete factory SBR. Does G&R still have LMT SBR's that is where I bought mine. My second was the BCM SBR lower. DD will also sell you a comets SBR and I think Noveske will too.

polymorpheous · #8 11-05-10, 21:23

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Originally Posted by usmcvet

I really like the option for ten bucks to buy the G2 lower SBR'd! Not sure abkut the billet lower. You could also just buy a complete factory SBR. Does G&R still have LMT SBR's that is where I bought mine. My second was the BCM SBR lower. DD will also sell you a comets SBR and I think Noveske will too.

I didn't see any SBR lowers on Grants site.

I can only afford to do the lower now and I was going to buy the upper at tax time.

My FFL/SOT is letting his license expire in February. Which is why I'm not just scrimping to buy a whole rifle.

I'm not sure what a comet SBR is.
Tell me more?

usmcvet · #9 11-05-10, 21:26

Sorry man I call that Droid thumb! I meant complete.

usmcvet · #10 11-05-10, 21:30

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ion&key=SBR-10

Here is a link to the LMT 10.5"

shadow65 · #11 11-06-10, 09:03

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Originally Posted by polymorpheous

I could. And I may have to.
Bravo still has blem lowers for $250 minus the stock.

But I really don't want to engrave it.

That makes perfect since. I'm just not that patient.

genegoesfast · #12 11-06-10, 09:36

just a note from the c3 defense site....."SPECIAL NOTICE REGARDING NFA WEAPONS! All SBR (short barrel rifle) pre-registered receivers require additional time to process and deliver. All NFA rules apply and that the 200.00 transfer tax is not included in the purchase price."

polymorpheous · #13 11-06-10, 20:08

Some guy on TOS is swearing up and down that a registered SBR lower is illegal to transfer without an upper.

I'm pretty sure the lower has to "manufactured" with an upper and register with that upper's barrel length.

usmcvet · #14 11-06-10, 20:15

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Originally Posted by polymorpheous

Some guy on TOS is swearing up and down that a registered SBR lower is illegal to transfer without an upper.

I'm pretty sure the lower has to "manufactured" with an upper and register with that upper's barrel length.

I think some folks see it that way. That is why DD told me they could not sell a stripped SBR registered lower. Other companies clearly disagree. My BCM complete lower came registered with a bbl length of 10.5".

polymorpheous · #15 11-06-10, 20:18

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Originally Posted by usmcvet

I think some folks see it that way. That is why DD told me they could not sell a stripped SBR registered lower. Other companies clearly disagree. My BCM complete lower came registered with a bbl length of 10.5".

I'm not sure I understand.
How can a company disagree with an ATF ruling?
Why would BCM stick their neck out like that?

usmcvet · #16 11-06-10, 20:29

Poly

Im not sure I have not seen the ruling. I belive the answer is the lower needs to have an overall and bbl length listed when it is registered. Just like some one who buys a stripped lower to use as a SBR they fill out the form 1 and list the lengths there.

polymorpheous · #17 11-06-10, 20:39

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Originally Posted by usmcvet

Poly

Im not sure I have not seen the ruling. I belive the answer is the lower needs to have an overall and bbl length listed when it is registered. Just like some one who buys a stripped lower to use as a SBR they fill out the form 1 and list the lengths there.

Understood.

But he's saying regardless of how it's registered, it has to be transferred as a complete SBR. And that what Bravo was doing is illegal.

usmcvet · #18 11-06-10, 20:54

Not sure what to say but it appears BCM is not the only company doing it. Is it C3 mentioned in this thread offering the service too? It is like Bushmaster saying in their web site they will not sell a Full Auto BCG to anyone with out proof they legally own a machine gun.

To be blunt it is BS and just not true. I suspect this is another form of that argument. It is not just BM that thinks that way.

It is obviously not a problem for Colt and a few other companies. They ship their Carbines that way. It is frusterating and like arguing with a drunk, you know you're right but is still a complete waste of your time.

polymorpheous · #19 11-06-10, 20:58

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Originally Posted by usmcvet

It is frusterating and like arguing with a drunk, you know you're right but is still a complete waste of your time.

Arfcom reputation intact.

usmcvet · #20 11-06-10, 21:12

Poly

I sent you a PM on another option on where to buy a BCM lower.