SOCOM 16

jackinfl · #1 08-11-07, 13:20

A buddy just bought one and let me shoot it, man it is sweet. That .308 has a nice punch to it. The question is that he wants to put a tactical type side mounted sling. I like and use the BFG VCAS sling. Can this be attatched to the SOCOM 16? Anyone got any pics of how they have theirs set up?

Now we have to get those approved for duty use.

Any help is appreciated.
Jack

sjc3081 · #2 10-12-07, 08:55

Socom 16 is a 3 to 4moa gun with match ammo as per SAI. Mine does 6 o 8 moa with Aussie,LC and Argentine surplus and 4moa with Federal match. Don't think for $1400.00 you are getting accurate rifle. My SA 85 AK holds 4moa with military classic jhp.

markm · #3 10-12-07, 09:12

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Originally Posted by sjc3081

Socom 16 is a 3 to 4moa gun with match ammo as per SAI. Mine does 6 o 8 moa with Aussie,LC and Argentine surplus and 4moa with Federal match. Don't think for $1400.00 you are getting accurate rifle.

Wow! That sucks big time! What kind of accuracy did the American made M14s used to get?

Misc Ex-Member · #4 10-12-07, 09:29

That does suck. I had a SOCOM and it was a solid 2 moa shooter with Aussie ammo.

MattC · #5 10-12-07, 09:52

Blue Force Gear has some adaptors listed on their website that should work.

-Matt

sjc3081 · #6 10-22-07, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Thekatar

That does suck. I had a SOCOM and it was a solid 2 moa shooter with Aussie ammo.

Are you sure ?

BushmasterFanBoy · #7 10-22-07, 17:51

I have fired one. My only dislike was the size of the front sight post seemed larger than the regular M14. The weapon handled very well and the recoil was very mild. I didn't shoot for accuracy so I can't comment on my groups or anything.

DocGKR · #8 10-22-07, 23:53

Issue rack grade M14's back in the day were NOT known for their accuracy.

The M1A SOCOM is plagued by many faults--I've seen quite a few launch front sights downrange. The non-USGI parts seem to break with regularity. At a recent Pat Rogers course I was at, several went down with mechanical problems. If you have the choice, there are better options available.

Misc Ex-Member · #9 10-23-07, 00:18

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Originally Posted by sjc3081

Are you sure ?

What do you mean?

DANGER CLOSE · #10 10-23-07, 04:06

i'm dinging out 12-16 circle at 500 yards with iron sights, i love my socom 16. i have only used 150 grain lake city ammo. i use the 3 point sling from specter gear, and it serves me well. i am not big on the rail package available for it, but i did buy the front sling / rail adapter. i forget the company. its about 4 inches of rail and a sling swivel.

sjc3081 · #11 10-23-07, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Thekatar

What do you mean?

Two MOA with Aussie ball

Misc Ex-Member · #12 10-23-07, 15:30

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Originally Posted by sjc3081

Two MOA with Aussie ball

Um... yeah... I was getting 2 - 2.5 moa out of my socom16 with Aussie ball. This was shooting at 100 yards.

Either you believe me or you don't - doesn't matter to me either way. I have no reason to make up a tall tale.

sjc3081 · #13 10-23-07, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Thekatar

Um... yeah... I was getting 2 - 2.5 moa out of my socom16 with Aussie ball. This was shooting at 100 yards.

Either you believe me or you don't - doesn't matter to me either way. I have no reason to make up a tall tale.

You are very lucky, I only do 4moa with match and that was done be SAI. Mine done about 6moa with assorted surplus and SAI says that is the best they expect the Socom to do.

Colt6920 · #14 10-26-07, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Thekatar

Um... yeah... I was getting 2 - 2.5 moa out of my socom16 with Aussie ball. This was shooting at 100 yards.

Either you believe me or you don't - doesn't matter to me either way. I have no reason to make up a tall tale.

Well I believe you because that was my experience with my socom also...

ddemis · #15 10-26-07, 23:43

The Socom 16 is a short handy weapon but it definitly has it's problems. I was visiting a gun shop in Henderson NV when the owner showed me one with a blown out receiver, split stock and a mag that was split open like a banana peel. I found out later the weapon had fired out of battery. Thats a gun I would never own.

supertac · #16 11-15-07, 22:16

Mine hits pie plates at 100yds from standing all day long using Port and SA milsurp.

My Soc II has been nothing but reliable and tremendously fun!

556 · #17 11-26-07, 01:29

Them SOCOM 16 are too damm loud with that brake. Besides, the M1A scout rifle with 18" bbl & standard flash hider isn't any less handier, hits a wee bit harder and more pleasant to shoot.

I didn't have a problem hitting IPSC A- zones with 80% consistancy at 300 yards with 2x leu scout scope on the 3 M1A's I shot early last year. Maybe I was lucky or these were exceptional guns. This isn't the first time Ihave heard of accuracy problems with these.

hahagobangbang · #18 08-03-08, 00:30

Here are some photos of an old project. The Socom 16 had just come out and I had to have one. I did a lot of work on the stock. If memory serves me well i just move the sling swivel from under the barrel in front and mounted it on the left side of the stock. I reinforced the stock with fiberglass and cloth before drilling and mounting the swivel. It looked skookum to me & I carried the rifle in the back country a lot. I always felt comfortable with a 20 magazine and that rifle in heavy bear counrty, brownies and/or blackies, so that gun became a boat gun for awhile. I also bought an adjustable cheek piece later and installed it. I used a Smith Enterprise scope mount with a Trijicon 1.25 x 4 Accu-Point scope, good setup! I also took time to set up a jig so I plane a nice flat surface an inch wide with my router. I then strengthened the inside of the stock with fiberglss cloth, two or three layers, checked for clearance between the barrel and stock of course, and them i mounted a nice 12" M1913 rail from Atlas metal, (Brownell's catalog) for lights, grips. That was the first gun i spray painted! Have fun with your gun, a friend talked me out of mine. I see it at the range all the time and other people still ooh & ahh over it.

MassMark · #19 08-03-08, 09:13

I never thought myself to be a lucky guy. I never win much of anything. I must rethink this position as I think about my SOCOM-16 - I must have hit the jackpot - it's a stellar rifle. I bought mine almost three years ago while unsuccessfully searching for a Scout. I was a bit disappointed in having to "settle" for the 16" SOCOM - that disappointment evaporated with the first trigger pull. I have had zero rifle related issues in over 10k down the pipe. My SOCOM-16 is also full of USGI parts - including a complete USGI trigger group, which I and many who have fired it, believe to be a match trigger.

I read all the negative hype on the gun boards - the mythology was amazing: "inaccurate, too loud, unreliable, giant flameballs going downrange, (love that one), cheap parts, no USGI, sights flying off, ammo sensitivity, on and on and on". Most of it was generated by purists - many of whom had never even handled one and thought the idea of a chopped M1A as an abomination. Some was put out there by those who had no concept of how to properly set up and maintain the rifle - some with legitimate issues, (which happens). Still others seemed to ignore the method behind the madness and were too quick to point out that the wide front Trijicon blade was a hinderance more than a help. The SOCOM-16 was not designed as a match rifle. MOA claims, (or lack) were generated by many who may have failed to realize that the SOCOM-16 is intended to not punch nice tight holes on the center of a little black circle - it was designed to punch holes in people - at close range.....And guess what? It does this superbly - with a truckload of power. This rifle will disappoint paper punchers, but put some optics on deck, or sink it into a Troy MCS, (or in my case both) and not only will groups shrink and effective range increase, but the accuracy potential and power of this little package will become quite evident....As for being "too heavy and loud" - buy some hearing protection and get your butt to the gym....This rifle is not for panzies....

Iraqgunz · #20 08-03-08, 09:50

Mass,

I agree and also thank you for your guidance concerning the Troy MCS. I got a good deal on one from Dynamic Armament in FDE. Though mine has only had about 220 rds. through it, it functioned flawlessly. As a matter of fact I took my 13 y/o out shooting with me last time and he was hitting a man size target at 100M with an EOTech mounted on there. I never intended for it to be anything more than a close distance rifle with a punch.

However, once I get home and add the Troy MCS to it, slap on the Leupold MR/T scope and get it dialed it I feel it will perform as I want it to do.

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Originally Posted by MassMark

I never thought myself to be a lucky guy. I never win much of anything. I must rethink this position as I think about my SOCOM-16 - I must have hit the jackpot - it's a stellar rifle. I bought mine almost three years ago while unsuccessfully searching for a Scout. I was a bit disappointed in having to "settle" for the 16" SOCOM - that disappointment evaporated with the first trigger pull. I have had zero rifle related issues in over 10k down the pipe. My SOCOM-16 is also full of USGI parts - including a complete USGI trigger group, which I and many who have fired it, believe to be a match trigger.

I read all the negative hype on the gun boards - the mythology was amazing: "inaccurate, too loud, unreliable, giant flameballs going downrange, (love that one), cheap parts, no USGI, sights flying off, ammo sensitivity, on and on and on". Most of it was generated by purists - many of whom had never even handled one and thought the idea of a chopped M1A as an abomination. Some was put out there by those who had no concept of how to properly set up and maintain the rifle - some with legitimate issues, (which happens). Still others seemed to ignore the method behind the madness and were too quick to point out that the wide front Trijicon blade was a hinderance more than a help. The SOCOM-16 was not designed as a match rifle. MOA claims, (or lack) were generated by many who may have failed to realize that the SOCOM-16 is intended to not punch nice tight holes on the center of a little black circle - it was designed to punch holes in people - at close range.....And guess what? It does this superbly - with a truckload of power. This rifle will disappoint paper punchers, but put some optics on deck, or sink it into a Troy MCS, (or in my case both) and not only will groups shrink and effective range increase, but the accuracy potential and power of this little package will become quite evident....As for being "too heavy and loud" - buy some hearing protection and get your butt to the gym....This rifle is not for panzies....