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Tier 1 M4 uppers

I can understand how Colt is Tier1 with there battle proven M4 and the semi auto copy 6921/6920

I can see with Pat Rogers Testing of The BCM


So without testing and a proven track record any upper meeting colts M4 upper specs is automatic Tier 1?
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I can understand how Colt is Tier1 with there battle proven M4 and the semi auto copy 6921/6920

I can see with Pat Rogers Testing of The BCM


So without testing and a proven track record any upper meeting colts M4 upper specs is automatic Tier 1?
First, there is no real definition of what is Tier 1 and what isn't. In fact the term tier 1 is not an industry accepted term.

If you want quality, choose companies that follow the TDP as closely as possible. This would be Colt, BCM, DD, etc.



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Tier 1? Really?
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First, there is no real definition of what is Tier 1 and what isn't. In fact the term tier 1 is not an industry accepted term.

If you want quality, choose companies that follow the TDP as closely as possible. This would be Colt, BCM, DD, etc.



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This and this Tier 1 nonsense has to go.
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This and this Tier 1 nonsense has to go.
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Look the OP is just trying to articulate what he is considering high quality. Tier one in his mind is the same as top quality in our minds.

So rather then bash the OP, why not correct him respectfully and then answer his question.

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You can use the comparison chart (It's a sticky) the Technical Discussions forum to help you identify which uppers are the higher quality.

In the chart you will see brands like Cot, BCM, Noveske, Daniel Defense, Sabre, LMT and there are a few others that are not on the chart that are quality manufacturers. Knight's Armament, CMT, Addax Tactical, LaRue Tactical, Centurion, just to name a few.
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That is how questions should be answered. Thank you.
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If you are asking which companies got the right mix of materials, QC, and standards you can't go wrong with Colt, LMT, and DD.
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Tier 1 = TOS talk
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For the love of Pete....

Can you tards...

...oh, excuse me, I mean "recipients of otherwise-recessive genetic disorders..."

...get off vapor-locking on who does or does not bandy about the term "tier one" for a half a minute and pay attention to the message instead of the medium? Stop going for the low-hanging fruit and try thinking for a change. Stop trying to be Clever Guy; nobody really likes Clever Guy, because all he has to add is not-so-clever things to say that don't help anybody.

Stop being part of the problem, Clever Guys. YOU are TOS.

That said, OP, your question is far too general and is only in English at a superficial level. We have a great number of stickied threads that will help you put together....well, a better question, for starters. You have a lot of reading to do that you'll find extremely helpful.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009
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