Why we do it. - Page 7

#**121** 05-18-08, 08:23

The student paid for the class.
The student was present during the entire class.
The student met all of the statutory requirements for getting his permit in VA.
Refusing to sign off on their certificates would be bad for business.

Shortly thereafter, I stopped teaching there.

jackinfl · #**122** 05-18-08, 22:10

Good for you Todd. INTEGRITY is everything. You do "it" for them once and they own you forever.

Jack

CarlosDJackal · #**123** 08-07-08, 17:15

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Originally Posted by ToddG

Yup. Many years ago when I was working at the NRA and part of the "Senior Firearms Instructors" program teaching CCW classes, I got in an argument with the head instructor over this. We had a one hour live fire portion of the class, and once I had a student who not only couldn't hit a target after an hour, but he was ridiculously unsafe and refused to pay any attention to me during our one-on-one training hour. So I refused to sign his First Steps certificate. The head guy signed it for me, and since then he's signed them all himself.

I can relate with you here. I refuse to sign any certificates except for the students I have personally taught and judged to be "worthy". I've also threatened to walk out of a Home Firearms Safety Class unless they kicked out this old lady who refused to listen to any instructions and kept sweeping the whole class with her revolver that she insisted was empty (even though she could not open up the cylinder to clear it). I even offered to give her a "refund" out of my own pocket.

The Head FI took her under his responsibility and did a one-on-one range session with her away from the rest of the class. he said that she did not want her certificate (thank God!!) and that she just wanted to learn how to shoot a gun.

In my club, we've had occasion to refuse to give someone their certificate until they came back for further training and until they proved that they can hit their intended target.

I wrote and was offering an Introduction to the IDPA class at my club until this year. I have since refused to do so because some people were attending who have never had ANY shooting experience of a class under their belt. I had a PhD tell me she signed up because it said "Introduction". I refused her enrollment when she could not show me that she can handle any of her handguns safely. I have also asked individuals to not come back for the range portion of th class for safety reasons.

Robb Jensen · #**124** 05-12-09, 08:36

We do it because it's fun. Here's some vids of me shooting on Sunday, I placed 8th of 29 in Limited, not too bad since I hadn't shot my Limited gun in about 4 months and only put 50 rounds though it on Saturday night before the match.

This will be my last match for about 5 weeks since I just had carpal tunnel release surgery on my left hand yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeGuVG6m-44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPcmxHvxFo

556 · #**125** 05-13-09, 23:37

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Originally Posted by gotm4

We do it because it's fun. Here's some vids of me shooting on Sunday, I placed 8th of 29 in Limited, not too bad since I hadn't shot my Limited gun in about 4 months and only put 50 rounds though it on Saturday night before the match.

This will be my last match for about 5 weeks since I just had carpal tunnel release surgery on my left hand yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeGuVG6m-44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPcmxHvxFo

isnt it funny what we call fun......

Fun...the airport thing or long drives.

Fun…like stand in the rain for hours. Pick up dropped mags from mud holes…… Cuss ourselves for missing such a easy shot or brain farting some procedure.

Fun…like picking up casings, cleaning guns, reloading….practicing when we don't feel like it.

Ha…. I always come back for more……..

blackscot · #**126** 05-15-09, 08:22

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Originally Posted by gotm4

We do it because it's fun. Here's some vids of me shooting on Sunday.........

Good shootin' Robb. Looks like F-burg is up to their usual standard of excellence.

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Originally Posted by gotm4

......This will be my last match for about 5 weeks since I just had carpal tunnel release surgery on my left hand yesterday.

Bummer.......good luck on that bro. Let us know how it works out. I should probably have mine looked to too -- right wrist is especially bad.

Robb Jensen · #**127** 06-28-09, 20:13

The hand is doing well but I'm waiting for late July before shooting centerfire pistols.

I just saw this on the BrianEnos forums and it made me laugh!

#**128** 06-29-09, 00:29

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Yeah, those little blue squares with white question marks always make me laugh, too!

Glad to hear your hand is healing up, man. July is just around the corner ...

Robb Jensen · #**129** 06-29-09, 07:23

Michelle at PhotoMotionPhotography.com took the pic.

Failure2Stop · #**130** 06-29-09, 09:01

That's great!

#**131** 06-29-09, 10:34

blackscot · #**132** 07-10-09, 07:34

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Originally Posted by gotm4

Michelle at PhotoMotionPhotography.com took the pic.

Great one Robb. I'm sharing this one with family (they wonder what we do out there).

hammonje · #**133** 08-14-09, 18:48

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Originally Posted by mark5pt56

Alot of people are scared to even do that. Some are humbled so bad that they won't ever try again.

I haven't seen this in GA. Everybody is so laid back, except the AMU, that new shooters are made to feel welcome. Everyone has a learning curve. Shooters are generally cool and everyone shares a common interest.

If individuals don't have the commitment to improve their shooting then....being humbled makes one realize how much there is left to learn. Go dry-fire, practice, and implement a consistent training regimen that challenges your skill set.

blackscot · #**134** 08-17-09, 06:58

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Originally Posted by gotm4

We do it because it's fun........

To me, that's the bottom line. Everything else is simply the means to that end.

Robb Jensen · #**135** 08-17-09, 08:54

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Originally Posted by blackscot

To me, that's the bottom line. Everything else is simply the means to that end.

YEP!

IndianaBoy · #**136** 09-16-10, 23:13

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Originally Posted by gotm4

I find USPSA more fun than IDPA and 3gun/multi-gun even more fun than USPSA.

This is my feeling as well.

Loki01 · #**137** 10-03-10, 08:50

Funny I came across this today, I am getting ready to go to my first 2 gun in about 45 min. Is it normal to be nervous?

Cold · #**138** 10-03-10, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Loki01

Funny I came across this today, I am getting ready to go to my first 2 gun in about 45 min. Is it normal to be nervous?

Of course, but you will be fine. listen to the RO/SO and you will do fine. Take pointers/suggestions given to you by more experienced shooters and you will come along just fine. Remember everyone started the same way you are, by taking a chance and jumping in head first.

smoothdraw · #**139** 12-04-10, 14:45

I see IDPA / IPSC / Multigun as shooting training and to continue my interest in shooting sports. Every year i try to have at least 1 big training or 2 for tactical training if i can get kitchen pass with the queen of my life. Yeah i develop training scars but i mix them up so that those training scars becomes more vivid and makes you decide to adjust and correct.

Any trigger time for me is better than typing in front of a computer.

mick610 · #**140** 12-18-10, 18:00

My life would just be NO FUN without USPSA or Multigun!

Now I spend every Friday with my son who wants to inherit a bunch of my guns BEFORE I die!
He sneeks around the house looking for my ammo stashes too!