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Unread 10-18-07, 21:25
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US Military's PMAG

Interesting read.

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2006smallarms/foltz.pdf
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The mag looks a lot like the Sig version.
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It looks to me like a newer version of the Thermold mags.
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I dont know if the pic is a prototype or if they just threw something in as a example.
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Exclamation

In September, Picatinny awarded a $98,790 contract to Ecomass Technologies for the fabrication of 550 prototype polymer magazines and the updating of the government's design drawings.

For those who want to look it up, it is contract W15QKN-07-P-0529.

I wonder how many Magpul PMAGs they could have bought for that amount?
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In September, Picatinny awarded a $98,790 contract to Ecomass Technologies for the fabrication of 550 prototype polymer magazines and the updating of the government's design drawings.

For those who want to look it up, it is contract W15QKN-07-P-0529.

I wonder how many Magpul PMAGs they could have bought for that amount?
7056 PMAGS
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7056 PMAGS
I'm relatively sure that if you were buying nearly $100K worth of PMags that Magpul would sell them to you a little cheaper than retail...
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Cool.

I will check them out. Anybody got an NSN or P/N?
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Cool.

I will check them out. Anybody got an NSN or P/N?
They are in development.
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seems like a worthy venture. Our current mags could use some updating so they arent regarded as the weak point in the AR15/M16 design
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Our tax $ hard at work here.
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Dude, what else is new? swivel chair decisions...

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Dude, what else is new? swivel chair decisions...
Check!
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They will probably spend more than Magpul did developing the P-Mag and come up with something 1/2 as good.
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They will probably spend more than Magpul did developing the P-Mag and come up with something 1/2 as good.
What they will prob do is spend all of the money trying to develop a magazine and than adopt the Pmag anyhow.
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Good flippin' night!! I thought we'd got past Uncle Sugar doing R&D for anything but the weapon system itself. There ain't no way they're gonna come up with anything better than the PMag. I could've sworn we understood how much more effective it is to go COTS than do R&D. Buncha DA's!
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This is absolutely retarded.

There is a proven item on the market, with *some* military acceptance, and the f**king geniuses decide to reinvent the f-ing wheel anyway!?

I am constantly amazed by the blatent lunacy of the decision-makers in positions far above ther capability, and consitently under-whelmed with their product.

It just never f**king ends.

Magpul should immediately call for a congressional investigation into waste, fraud and abuse by the jerk-off that pushed this "research" forward.

F**K
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This is absolutely retarded.

There is a proven item on the market, with *some* military acceptance, and the f**king geniuses decide to reinvent the f-ing wheel anyway!?

I am constantly amazed by the blatent lunacy of the decision-makers in positions far above ther capability, and consitently under-whelmed with their product.

It just never f**king ends.

Magpul should immediately call for a congressional investigation into waste, fraud and abuse by the jerk-off that pushed this "research" forward.

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I love how you put this. We're already on it.
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You might want to add that PMAG's are doing well in Iraqi currently...

I'm all for funding US arms research -- but it does NOT seem wise or fair to try to reinvent the wheel - when a capable American product already exist, that has been privately funded.
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I guess this is another shining example of the "if we didn't invent it, it can't be any good" mentality that they so often seem to have.

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