22wmr vs 5.7 - doc, which is more effective?

**chapperjoe** · 09-24-11, 22:23

22 WMR 40-grain Gold Dot Short Barrel
vs
5.7 FN SS197SR 40gr. Hornady V-Max Ballistic Tip

thanks!

**chapperjoe** · 10-10-11, 18:35

did i ask the wrong question?

**ryr8828** · 10-10-11, 21:31

197 has a much greater velocity, but I've never shot anyone.

**BufordTJustice** · 10-10-11, 22:54

Brassfetcher has some good videos of the two rounds in gel in slow motion on youtube.

**tpd223** · 10-10-11, 23:50

More effective for what?

Shooting coyotes? Both would work about the same.

Stopping a 250lb maniac or guy armed with a gun? They both suck equally.

**Clint** · 10-11-11, 00:57

Originally Posted by tpd223

More effective for what?

Shooting coyotes? Both would work about the same.

Stopping a 250lb maniac or guy armed with a gtun? They both suck equally.

^^^This post just made my day.

But I spent a half hour at Brass Fetcher!

Seriously, a buddy has both a 57 pistol and PS90.

We might have to do a little side by side testing at the next range trip.

**Failure2Stop** · 10-11-11, 01:22

Originally Posted by tpd223

More effective for what?

This needs to be identified for any usable information flow.

ETA:
Doc's findings regarding 5.7 in a human target
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19913

**wrinkles** · 10-11-11, 09:29

Originally Posted by Clint

^^^This post just made my day.

But I spent a half hour at Brass Fetcher!

Seriously, a buddy has both a 57 pistol and PS90.

We might have to do a little side by side testing at the next range trip.

What will you be testing on?

**Jake'sDad** · 10-11-11, 10:35

Originally Posted by BufordTJustice

Brassfetcher has some good videos of the two rounds in gel in slow motion on youtube.

Do you have a link? I don't see anything from them on the Gold Dot .22 Mag Short Barrel.

**tpd223** · 10-11-11, 11:05

While I like the tests being available at Brassfetcher, and they seem to do a good job, the conclusions they come to can be seriously F'd up.

A guy on Lightfighter was pimping the "5.7 is the awesome" due to that single Brassfetcher test where they concluded in the write-up that the 5.7 was equal to a 230gr .45acp JHP in wounding ability.
They came to this conclusion strictly from their interpretation of "kinetic energy dump", from the appearance of the temp cavities in the gel on slow-mo video.

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