New Colt Model (SP6920MP) MAGPUL MOE - Page 3

jhs1969 · #41 10-06-11, 11:06

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Originally Posted by markm

but I'm one of those nuts who likes the finger bump on his grip.

Well that makes three of us, I acutally like the A2 grip. In fact the first thing I did to a former LMT was to replace the Ergo grip with an A2, after using it for 20+ years it has grown on me.

Boss Hogg · #42 10-06-11, 11:12

A 7" rail on a 16" barrel isn't my cup of aesthetic tea. If I'm paying for it, I'd like it to look good. And for those of us that are on the right side of the median height curve, they're not very functional.

But I'm glad to see that more enthusiasts are realizing- myself included after owning some after all these years- that Colt makes great ARs. Afghanistan will eventually wind down and Colt probably recognizes that with their improvements for the commercial channel.

dfsutton · #43 10-06-11, 11:32

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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Colt has also done away with the USGI 20rd mags and included two PMAG's.

To me personally, this is a mistake. About the only thing that I still use from my 6920 (from the furniture/magazines) is the two Colt 20 rounders.

Just to clarify, this is only for the SP6920MP correct? The SP6920 will still offer the 2 20 round Colt magazines, right?

C4IGrant · #44 10-06-11, 12:55

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Originally Posted by dfsutton

To me personally, this is a mistake. About the only thing that I still use from my 6920 (from the furniture/magazines) is the two Colt 20 rounders.

Just to clarify, this is only for the SP6920MP correct? The SP6920 will still offer the 2 20 round Colt magazines, right?

Correct. The PMAG only comes with the SP6920MP (currently).

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JChops · #45 10-06-11, 23:39

Clyde's Colt 6720 comes with (2) 20rd PMAGs as well; but I think that's something special they negotiated.

Dunderway · #46 10-07-11, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Stickman

Just starting, but short rails and only carbine gas systems still make me wonder if they understand where the market is outside of their current MIL contracts.

I respectfully disagree. I think that Colt's MIL offerings should drive their marketing, instead of the MOE (and similar) formulas that everyone else is using. Colt could probrably sell the hell out of:

- M4 SOPMOD Block I Clone
- M4 SOPMOD Block II Clone
- M16A2 Clone
- M16A4 Clone
- MK18 Clone (NFA)

They may be able to get good enough volume deals from Daniel Defense, KAC, etc. to make the above happen at a really good price point as well.

Dunderway · #47 10-07-11, 00:13

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Originally Posted by markm

It just scares me to see Colt catering to "that" crowd. I mean... if they started sticking SOPMOD stocks on the gun, that would be one thing....

Agreed.

Misc Ex-Member · #48 10-07-11, 07:36

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Originally Posted by Dunderway

I respectfully disagree. I think that Colt's MIL offerings should drive their marketing, instead of the MOE (and similar) formulas that everyone else is using. Colt could probrably sell the hell out of:

- M4 SOPMOD Block I Clone
- M4 SOPMOD Block II Clone
- M16A2 Clone
- M16A4 Clone
- MK18 Clone (NFA)

They may be able to get good enough volume deals from Daniel Defense, KAC, etc. to make the above happen at a really good price point as well.

Oh yeah, I'm onboard with your thinking here.

rocketman · #49 10-07-11, 08:05

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Originally Posted by jhs1969

Well that makes three of us, I acutally like the A2 grip. In fact the first thing I did to a former LMT was to replace the Ergo grip with an A2, after using it for 20+ years it has grown on me.

I'm the same way. I like Magpul stocks and handguards but I've found the MOE is too thick for me to operate the safety without changing my grip. I've changed all my stuff back to the A2. It works just fine for me....

Sounds like Colt is starting to listen to the market. That's a great thing. They will get it "right" eventually.

ccosby · #50 10-07-11, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Dunderway

I respectfully disagree. I think that Colt's MIL offerings should drive their marketing, instead of the MOE (and similar) formulas that everyone else is using. Colt could probrably sell the hell out of:

- M4 SOPMOD Block I Clone
- M4 SOPMOD Block II Clone
- M16A2 Clone
- M16A4 Clone
- MK18 Clone (NFA)

They may be able to get good enough volume deals from Daniel Defense, KAC, etc. to make the above happen at a really good price point as well.

While I agree they should be pushing the above(with the m4 sopmod guns being offered in 14.5 nfa and 16 inch normal) I think they should really be going for both. The magpul setup the did was is a pretty solid one. I think they should be going for any sale they can. Really you want to dive out in both directions.

I wish they would sell the 20 inch uppers with gi barrel profiles though(or complete rifles). That would be on my short list as I want to get a a2 style one. Really by the time they ever get around to it chances are I'll have built it using another companies parts.

rob_s · #51 10-07-11, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Dunderway

I respectfully disagree. I think that Colt's MIL offerings should drive their marketing, instead of the MOE (and similar) formulas that everyone else is using. Colt could probrably sell the hell out of:

- M4 SOPMOD Block I Clone
- M4 SOPMOD Block II Clone
- M16A2 Clone
- M16A4 Clone
- MK18 Clone (NFA)

They may be able to get good enough volume deals from Daniel Defense, KAC, etc. to make the above happen at a really good price point as well.

While I agree with you that the midlength is overblown and only a small segment of the market anyway, and that going all-MOE doesn't really set them apart, AND that the replicas would probably sell, I'd like to see them do more. Replica guns, to me, are pointless beyond the collector market. I think Colt could sell the hell out of an M4 replica gun with Aimpoint M4 and KAC rail, etc. but it would be to the wall-hanger market I think.

ccosby · #52 10-07-11, 16:16

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Originally Posted by rob_s

While I agree with you that the midlength is overblown and only a small segment of the market anyway, and that going all-MOE doesn't really set them apart, AND that the replicas would probably sell, I'd like to see them do more. Replica guns, to me, are pointless beyond the collector market. I think Colt could sell the hell out of an M4 replica gun with Aimpoint M4 and KAC rail, etc. but it would be to the wall-hanger market I think.

First off I agree their would be a lot of wall hangers in the mix. That being said the gun say without the optic to keep cost down is something I see people buying as a good kit that they could run hard.

My 10.5 is pretty much a mk18 clone with the sopmod stock, lmt rear sight, kac rail and aimpoint. It has the ergo grip, larue front grip, and larue index clips on it though as I prefer them over the stock setup. It is far from a wall-hanger and happens to be very dirty right now. The sopmod is on it because I tried one when I built an ar-10 and fell in love. The rail was cheap and I didn't have to remove the front sight to install it. I had the aimpoint on another gun and moved it to it.

I think one ready to go would sell well with people who wanted to use them. It might sell well for reserve soliders buying a close replica to what they carry so they can practice.

JChops · #53 10-12-11, 01:41

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Originally Posted by userids

What is the lower marked on these? Are they marked sporter?

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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Yes they are.

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You may want to check your remaining inventory on these.

I heard from a friend that a NIB Colt 6920MP-B he just picked up was marked "M4 Carbine CAL 5.56MM" and not "Sporter M4" without cal markings as they were previously.

If this is the case for all the 6920MP-B's after a certain serial number range, I suspect a major run on them as it would absolutely be the most desirable rollmark Colt has ever produced. (Not to mention no LE markings.)

Photo (not his):

JChops · #54 10-12-11, 15:32

Well, it's true. I just held one. They look great. Perhaps after a certain serial number they are marking them this way and G&R's are below that number?

Here's one for sale (no association to this guy): http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=255000517

C4IGrant · #55 10-12-11, 15:45

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Originally Posted by JChops

Well, it's true. I just held one. They look great. Perhaps after a certain serial number they are marking them this way and G&R's are below that number?

Here's one for sale (no association to this guy): http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=255000517

The above roll marks are correct (just looked at a few).

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scottryan · #56 10-12-11, 17:52

This is the same roll mark that appears on the commercial/LE select fire guns.

buzz_knox · #57 10-12-11, 17:57

I had been leaning away from a new carbine length for my next AR but if Grant gets a 6920 with that rollmark, it will make its way to my hot little hands quickly.

jagdkommando · #58 10-12-11, 18:33

I have seen a lot of these Colt SP6920MP-B rifles and they all have this rollmark.

DasBulk · #59 10-12-11, 19:00

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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Personally, I prefer the MOE furniture to the standard USGI furniture.

YMMV.

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Yup. Happy with what I got on mine. But im still considering a TRX. Meh.

C4IGrant · #60 10-12-11, 21:45

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Originally Posted by buzz_knox

I had been leaning away from a new carbine length for my next AR but if Grant gets a 6920 with that rollmark, it will make its way to my hot little hands quickly.

Buy the 6920MP and sell off the Magpul items you do not want OR, we can remove the Magpul items and put the standard 6920 furniture on if you like.

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