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10-17-11, 14:33
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10-17-11, 14:35
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My .02 having never fondled the SRS.
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OK,
1. You made a good point.
2. No, we are talking about a backup, no reasonably sized tritium light will work by itself against a very bright light, the only backup that will work for that is a reticle etched or otherwise which will appear black, but that would defeat the purpose for this type of sight.
I'm talking about having a tritium light for very low light or dark when there is not enough ambient light to drive the solar, and the battery is dead. Having even a faint dot would be nice. Probably not worth the cost and engineering.
3. Number 2 would be almost unnecessary if the battery could regenerate itself, for instance if the sight were designed like the Leupold VXR where after some period of time if no movement were detected the led would shut off. Trijicon SRS could then switch the solar to charge the battery. Any movement would instantaneously, turn the charging off and the led back on. You are talking about milliseconds.
OK, this is all about electronics, so maybe they decided that the current generated from the solar was inadequate to charge the battery and/or the added electronics would make the unit less reliable. But I can go down to Home Depot and buy a $4 solar light to stick in my lawn that will run quite awhile on battery power received during the day from the tiny solar panel on top of it. And I bet dollars to doughnuts that the led in the lawn light uses more energy than the LED in the SRS.
Then again, they probably decided that most soldiers will be able to find a new battery. LOL.
Just saying...
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10-17-11, 14:57
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I hear what you're saying, I just picked up my first Acog and think it's a great optic. I also have purchased 4 T1s from G&R Tactical. All of those purchases benefited Americans and American business.
When this sight comes out I will give it a serious look, and I'm very interested to eventually see what all these rumors are about with new products and innovations coming from Trijicon in the near future. If this optic has its sights (apologies) on the M4, has Trijicon also something targeting the T1?
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Very good point about supporting American small business, and I don't mean to pound on it because I also believe that in the marketplace the best product should win, however I frequently hear folks defending past decisions by berating new products. At least that is how it sounds to me. Personally, I just get pissed that I don't have the coolest thing anymore (This is why Apple sells so many iPhones.)
Then again, at some point you have to ask yourself and I have to ask myself, "How much better can it be?" "I've already got great gear, this new thing might be slightly better (unproved), but its not gonna make that much difference." "It's not going to make my stuff obsolete, it just moves things forward." "And when I feel like I want to replace what I've got I know that great equipment holds it value."
Anyway, I try to look at the positives of any new stuff that comes out and know that it just pushes competition and makes everything better, faster, and sometimes cheaper.
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10-17-11, 15:33
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I hear what you're saying, I just picked up my first Acog and think it's a great optic. I also have purchased 4 T1s from G&R Tactical. All of those purchases benefited Americans and American business.
When this sight comes out I will give it a serious look, and I'm very interested to eventually see what all these rumors are about with new products and innovations coming from Trijicon in the near future. If this optic has its sights (apologies) on the M4, has Trijicon also something targeting the T1?
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Isn't Aimpoint a Swedish company...?
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10-17-11, 20:06
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Aren’t the Accupoints made in Japan?
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Aren’t the Accupoints made in Japan?
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No. I do believe that they get their glass from Japan though (as do many companies).
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10-18-11, 17:36
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10-19-11, 15:16
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I do wonder what the battery life would be if left on and stored in a dark case so it was instantly ready. Then it would be pulling from just the battery and life would be less I would think. Or just store it powered off and go through the motions of powering it on when removing from trunk/case.
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This is what came to my mind as being a concern. I live that my aimpoints can be put in the safe or dark closed while on and they will be good to go without any worry. If this can do the same it will give aimpoint a run. If they price it in the same league as an M4 I'm not sure they'll get much movement. Why go away form a well proven design to an unknown of the same price point? Not that Trijicon puts out crap at al, but they have little track record in the RDS arena. Put it into the $100 or so less than the M4 closer to the M3 series and it'll entice people to switch.
Count me as another who wants an accupoint with better reticle choices. 1-4; 1-6 whatever it takes.
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10-19-11, 15:37
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I am surprised no one has mentioned the weight. 13+ ounces with battery and mount. It may be in the realm of the M4 but not the micro. Don't get me wrong, I like it but like someone stated before, what does it bring to the market that other RDS don't already have?
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10-20-11, 21:20
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I don't care where a product is made. If its the best and its American, I buy it and am glad. If its the best and is Swedish, I buy it and hope that the American manufacturers will one day earn my business back. I believe this leads to greatness of our nation. Not just buying whatever because its "patriotic". I'm not a fan of affirmative action of any sort.
All that said, I think the main thing this SRS stands to offer is a better fov and less tube effect.
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11-11-11, 00:57
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would the aimpoing 3x magnifier work with this optic?
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11-11-11, 09:34
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would the aimpoing 3x magnifier work with this optic?
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As long as the mount lined up.
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11-11-11, 16:28
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UPDATE!
Just got pricing info!
There will be two models. One with a screw on mount (much like their other factory mounts with the big thumb screws) and the one with the Bobro QD.
The thumb screw mount is SRS101 MAP $841.50.
The QD model is SRS102 MAP $913.75.
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11-11-11, 20:08
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Just got pricing info!
There will be two models. One with a screw on mount (much like their other factory mounts with the big thumb screws) and the one with the Bobro QD.
The thumb screw mount is SRS101 MAP $841.50.
The QD model is SRS102 MAP $913.75.
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ooks like i got some saving to do, do you know if either mounts is 1/3 or complete cowitness?
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11-11-11, 20:24
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ooks like i got some saving to do, do you know if either mounts is 1/3 or complete cowitness?
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No idea.
We will offer member discounts on them if interested.
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11-11-11, 20:30
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ooks like i got some saving to do, do you know if either mounts is 1/3 or complete cowitness?
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Based upon the comparative pics posted earlier, it looks like the Bobro mount is a 1/3 cowitness.
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11-11-11, 22:48
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For that price it better work at least as good as a solar powered calculator indoors.
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11-11-11, 23:35
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No idea.
We will offer member discounts on them if interested.
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you know it, hopefully ill have the funds when they start shipping them, but i will def be getting one
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I got to play with the SRS today at the LaRue Range day. My main question was how the dot looked, since Aimpoints dots are never "clean" with my astigmatism.
The dot reminded me of an Aimpoint, and not an ACOG. It was better, but not 100% perfect. Field of view is very very good. It optic is chunky, but acceptable.
Compared to the Comp M4, it is a serious contender. I intend to buy one.
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For those wondering what this will offer over an M4... let it be put through its paces. If it ends up holding up to the rigors, consider it another tool in the box. If it turns out to be like all other trijicon products, it will be of the utmost quality.
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