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Leupold Mark6 1-6x Optic Updates

From everything I've read and seen, this is either going to be a tremendous hit for the lightweight low powered variable scene, or a flop, but given the reaction of Kyle Lamb to it, I'm inclined to think Leupy may have gotten it right, especially when their rep mentioned the price point.

Anybody gotten a chance to see it up close yet?

Any details on reticle, if it's going to be offered with BDC turret markings, and final weight with mount?

I'm sure there are going to be inevitable comparisons between this and the Z6i, as well as other optics, and be tied in with speculation regarding the Army Squad Optic competition, but if this really is the CQBSS for mortals, I'm probably in the early adoption team.
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WHat did Kyle say? I saw his endorsement of the MK8 but not this?
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I shoot an AR with one on it yesterday,it's a damn nice scope.
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Did the illumination overcome daylight? I never really got my mind around whether or not the CQBSS actually did. Some people said yes, some people said no, and still others said yes but only with certain models.
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Did the illumination overcome daylight? I never really got my mind around whether or not the CQBSS actually did. Some people said yes, some people said no, and still others said yes but only with certain models.
Yes it was similar to the illumination of a Burris 1-4x XTR. IIRC the suggested retail is $1500
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Yes it was similar to the illumination of a Burris 1-4x XTR. IIRC the suggested retail is $1500
The Burris XTR is not that good from what I recall in the illumination department. But it sounds like Leupold is getting better than the previously un usable illumination in the daylight.
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I have a VX-R Patrol 1.25-4 here. I've only turned it on outside and used it to zero, and fired a couple of mags at 25 yards, but so far it's bright enough to see outdoors. I'll use it in a class this weekend and have more to report.

FWIW, I don't think the production version of this 1-6 is going to be out for quite a little bit. I have an email from Leupold around here somewhere from when I got the 1.25-4 I'll have to try and dig up.
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here is link from Gear Scout

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...d-mark-6-1-6x/

Link from Gear Scout. This scope looks pretty good.
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Like Kyle said do not touch it unless you want to buy one because you will want it. best in the class that I have seen. Hopefully it comes of as shown at SHOT.

Still a little pricey for most I believe but less expensive than those it can really be compared against.

Good glass is not really that expensive they just know they can get it.
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I really respect Lamb's opinion but how is the "tube effect" at 1x?

I'm very interested for a build.
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Does anyone know the aprox length and weight?
I wonder if capped turrets could be an option.
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Does anyone know the aprox length and weight?
I wonder if capped turrets could be an option.
It would be nice on the CMR-W version. I think I'd want regular turrets on the TMR version though. I'd really like it if they had the Mark 8 style turrets.
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Yes it was similar to the illumination of a Burris 1-4x XTR. IIRC the suggested retail is $1500
At this price I'm all in!
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It would be nice on the CMR-W version. I think I'd want regular turrets on the TMR version though. I'd really like it if they had the Mark 8 style turrets.
The VXR I have has what I think of as target turrets, which on this I think are kind of pointless. On the 1-8 they seem to make a bit more sense. Not sure on the 1-6x.
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The VXR I have has what I think of as target turrets, which on this I think are kind of pointless. On the 1-8 they seem to make a bit more sense. Not sure on the 1-6x.
Understandable, which is why I would desire turrets like the Mark 8 since you have the ability to quickly adjust them if necessary, but are unable to get whacked out of alignment with normal use. As a rule I generally hate uncapped turrets.
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Put the H58 in that puppy and we are ready to rock!
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Put the H58 in that puppy and we are ready to rock!
Oh hell yeah, that would be a great match for an optic like this.
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Oh hell yeah, that would be a great match for an optic like this.
THe one KevinB showed us has the H58
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THe one KevinB showed us has the H58
Too good to be true, there has to be a catch.... there's always a catch!!!

Seems like every time we get excited for something like this we get the rug pulled out from under us with some kind of missing feature or bad reticles etc....or a price point just shy of the national debt....

I was giving the USO 1-4 and the Swaro z6i a hard look. If they put that reticle in I'd definitely go for this!!!!!!!

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I'm seeing some prices coming out at or around $1950 as well for certain versions - these might be the CMR-W .308 versions with the larger H8 reticle, with a mount. I can hope.

Even if the final price ends up a bit north of $1500, I think the CQBSS type turrets with a smartly chosen BDC, a bright dot that has some decent battery life (I do like that it has off positions in between each of the 7 brightness settings).


Looks like the 34mm tube may not actually translate into a really large enough objective lens, unless the initial specs are a typo, it may actually be a 20mm obj.
I'm also curious about the durability of the hinge and how watertight that illumination area is after opening it up.

Looks like cattails will still work, and the rear part of the housing staying static is great for running flip-up covers.

I just think the illumination is the only thing I'm waiting to really see - living in the desert means I get some pretty bright days, and if the reticle isn't great at the lowest magnification, then that would probably herd me to the older 1.1-4x Short Dot.
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