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TMS951
03-06-12, 12:46
I have a gen. 2 glock 23 lower. I decided .40 wasn't for me and bought a factory new Glock 19 upper and ejector. (about 600rnds. through it now)

I was having issues feeding and extracting issues with it. From some reading it seemed to be a the standard problem from the new MIM extractor. 4 months later my lone wolf extractor finally showed up.

I installed it and cleaned and lubed the gun. Of note was that the extractor had to be forced into place, after that it came in and out fine.

Ammo used was 124gr. american eagle FMJ.

This one amazed me, I mean how does the casing end up back wards?
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600026.jpg

A couple stove pipes like this:
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600027.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600028.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600029.jpg

Another kind of weird one, I have had triangle marks before on brass, I fired out from this one it is from the brass getting pinched as the slide closes on it.http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600030.jpg

Different stove pipe:http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img2012030600031.jpg

In all of these it had picked up another round, if I tried racking the slide to clear it it caused a double feed.

Here is a picture from when it had the factory extractor in it, This was the last round, the slide did lock back on its own, the case extracted and was just sitting on the empty mag.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img00306201109261421.jpg

I would really appreciate any insight on what is going on here.
Pax
03-06-12, 12:59
Youre sure the LWD extractor slides in and out without issue? No catching, no excessive friction?

Naturally, contact LWD and see what they have to say.

Inspect your original MIM extractor for any similar issues with excessive friction in its slot in the slide. If you dont have any qualms about messing with a part youre not using anymore... Try sanding the MIM extractors contact surfaces with the slide until it can move freely when installed. Check function.
TMS951
03-06-12, 13:12
I bought two of the extractors, so I will try the other. I also want to try some different ammo.

I did file down the factory MIM part, it didn't help to much. I shelved the gun while waiting for the Lone Wolf part.

The fitment issue came from the round part on the inner back of it. It did not want to press down into the hole. After I forced it in it was fine.

Ultimately I am not blaming the lone wolf part, I feel it must be something else? Could it be the Ejector? I am going to test the extractor in known working glock 17 and see what happens. Maybe also swap the ejector from that gun too and see what happens.

I want to send the gun to block, but I don't know if they will work on it, I stippled the frame and it is a 23 frame with a 19 upper and ejector.

I would pay them to fix it, but don't know if the would even touch it.
99999
03-06-12, 14:28
Glock CS is fantastic. You might be surprised. Why not call them on this and let us know what they say?
ruchik
03-06-12, 19:38
My guess would be the ejector. 40 casings are wider than 9mm. Could be the ejector isn't striking the casing squarely on the base because the 9mm has a smaller diameter and it's only striking the rim of the base.
RD62
03-06-12, 19:54
My guess would be the ejector. 40 casings are wider than 9mm. Could be the ejector isn't striking the casing squarely on the base because the 9mm has a smaller diameter and it's only striking the rim of the base.

He said he changed the ejector.
TMS951
03-06-12, 21:16
I switched everything from a glock 17, both the lower ejector and trigger group, and all internal parts of the slide.

I am going to try this first to see if the problem followed, if it did, and am going to start switching parts one at a time and see if the problem follows one of them.

I also have three different ammo varieties to try.

The guns have been cleaned again when switching all the parts.

The two (glock gen.2 non lci and Lone wolf lci) different ejectors both move smoothly in both guns, and have their full range of movement.

Both guns are using #336 9mm ejectors.
S.E.R.T.
03-06-12, 23:02
the lone wolf extractors that will help are the .40 not the 9mm. the .40 version eill have a 4 stamped on it and the 9mm will have a 3. the new ejector is a 30274 and not the 366.
ColdDeadHands
03-07-12, 07:56
From what I hear the 336 ejectors are no good, you want the newest 30274 Ejector. I'm trying to get one of those for my new G19 Gen4 which hits me in the face with brass.
TMS951
03-07-12, 08:44
Do you know where I can get the new ejector/trigger housing?

I can't find any for sale online.

Is the gen. 4 trigger housing the same as the gen. 3? I am more than willing to try the new ejector, I just need to find one.
ColdDeadHands
03-07-12, 10:02
I just talked with somebody at Glock, only way to get one is to have a Certified armorer order and install it for you or send your gun to glock and have them install it.:mad:
TMS951
03-07-12, 11:55
At this point I have 50 rounds through the 17 and 100 through the 19.

The 19 was flawless for all 100 rounds, with good consistent 3 o'clock ejection.

The 17 had no failures, it did have inconstant ejection, some going straight up and over me.


I don't really want to switch parts back and forth now since not enough of a problem followed. My plan as of now is to consider the 100 rounds through the 19 to be the first 100 of a 2000 round challenge.

I am going to put the factory Glock MIM LCI dipped extractor in my 17 and send it in to Glock with a complaint of inconsistent ejection and see what they say. I want to test it further, but honestly it is time consuming and most of all expensive to do. I would rather have Glock do it on their dime, the gun will come to them with all 9mm factory parts installed. Hopefully I will get a new ejector out of it.