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Caeser25
03-08-12, 18:45
Nato, UN trumps Congress' War Powers Act says Defense Sec Panetta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNwOeyuG84&feature=player_embedded

While this shit has been going on since before I was born, to flat out tell Congress the Defense Department's authority comes from Nato or the UN is shocking. Hopefully this wakes some of them up. Call, mail, fax and email your Senator, Congress critter asap.
GeorgiaBoy
03-08-12, 19:02
This is not good. Not good at all.
Gramps
03-08-12, 20:21
Here we go. Thats just what they needed to break us down.
Moose-Knuckle
03-08-12, 20:42
The US military has been USED for the better part of a century now for purpopses other than defense of the homeland. General Smedley Butler (two time Congressional Medal of Honor recipient) preached about this but no one listened.

Globalism, the US Constitution just dosen't fit in. . .
J-Dub
03-08-12, 20:51
Is this news to people? Seriously....its been going on for a while now...

They are just getting bold enough to come out and say it.
Irish
03-08-12, 21:21
You are being manipulated.
FromMyColdDeadHand
03-08-12, 22:06
Panetta really didn't handle that very well. He should have known that type of question was coming and should have prepared something better than that.

The US can only fight a war if the US congress declares it. Military action is another thing.

All he would have had to say is that world bodies do not have veto power over the US using force? Would that have been so hard to say???
Sensei
03-09-12, 02:41
All he would have had to say is that world bodies do not have veto power over the US using force? Would that have been so hard to say???

It is when you are a progressive globalist. At least he is honest and saying what he believes.
chuckman
03-09-12, 07:49
Disturbing, but certainly nothing new. As far as Panetta goes, he has to blow his boss to keep his job (meant as a euphamism and metaphor and not to be taken wholly or partly in context with actual performance of oral sex).
Nathan_Bell
03-09-12, 08:06
He said what he believes in an accidental moment of honesty.
He is a transnational socialist. His world view is exactly what he stated to Congress.


Panetta really didn't handle that very well. He should have known that type of question was coming and should have prepared something better than that.

The US can only fight a war if the US congress declares it. Military action is another thing.

All he would have had to say is that world bodies do not have veto power over the US using force? Would that have been so hard to say???
VooDoo6Actual
03-09-12, 09:41
Just the tip of iceberg, wait until after UN Weapons treaty conference July 2-27....

http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ATTPrepCom/

http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ArmsTradeTreaty/
Caeser25
03-09-12, 11:22
Didn't this happen to Rome before their demise?
LowSpeed_HighDrag
03-09-12, 11:43
When was the last time Congress actually used the Wartime Powers act to declare full on war? WW2?

This has been happening for years now. Its just like Zappa said, the curtains of freedom have been pulled back and the only thing on the other side is that brick wall.
jaydoc1
03-10-12, 10:05
So, I'm just curious. Where are the comments now from all the posters on this website who, as people would predict these events over the last several years, have been making all the tinfoil hat comments? "Our constitution prevents them from doing the things you paranoid individuals think they will do."

Whatever. The current government, republicans and democrats alike, wipe their collective ass daily with the constitution. Then throw in events like the Indiana Supreme Court decision on the 4th amendment. These sorts of decisions will become more and more common. Give Obama a 2nd term where he will be able to fill the Supreme Court with progressives and stick a fork in us. We're done.

It's been very obvious this stuff was coming. Whether we'd like to believe it or not.
Caeser25
03-11-12, 20:48
So, I'm just curious. Where are the comments now from all the posters on this website who, as people would predict these events over the last several years, have been making all the tinfoil hat comments? "Our constitution prevents them from doing the things you paranoid individuals think they will do."

Whatever. The current government, republicans and democrats alike, wipe their collective ass daily with the constitution. Then throw in events like the Indiana Supreme Court decision on the 4th amendment. These sorts of decisions will become more and more common. Give Obama a 2nd term where he will be able to fill the Supreme Court with progressives and stick a fork in us. We're done.

It's been very obvious this stuff was coming. Whether we'd like to believe it or not.

I used to think those tinfoil hat wearers were a bit on the anxious side. I guess you can only use the constitution as toilet paper for so long before it's pretty much all gone and those people ended up being right.
Belmont31R
03-11-12, 20:53
This is not new. Remember when all the liberals wanted bush thrown in international court for war crimes. The left has long looked past our own domestic law and sought out international acceptance rather than whats legal or right for America.


The first year Obama was in office it was a "We're sorry" international campaign.


:rolleyes:
Abraxas
03-11-12, 20:57
Is this news to people? Seriously....its been going on for a while now...

They are just getting bold enough to come out and say it.

Agreed, but I think it is a major thing that they feel safe enough to say it aloud. It is even worse that almost no one cares.
PlatoCATM
03-11-12, 22:51
Couple the authority to go to war with the largest standing military in history and the resources are already available to proceed without civilian (politician) declaration. Not even a need to call governors for guardsmen, and certainly no draft.