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WillBrink
03-10-12, 09:24
For the shooter who has everything :rolleyes:

http://www.arsenalfirearms.com/products/af-2011-a1-double-barrel-pistol#

They're putting us on right???!!!

uwe1
03-10-12, 09:30
Shouldn't this go into the 1911 subforum? :jester:

Lucky Strike
03-10-12, 09:36
hey...it'd go great with my coach gun

JStor
03-10-12, 09:36
Zombie game inspired? :D

WillBrink
03-10-12, 15:15
Shouldn't this go into the 1911 subforum? :jester:

Calling it a semi auto handgun seemed bad enough. Here's a vid of that abomination:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-DGaNmtA0

J_Dub_503
03-10-12, 16:10
Shouldn't this go into the 1911 subforum? :jester:

It's there already, I started it yesterday. (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=101055)

PRGGodfather
03-10-12, 17:21
Needs twin bayonets.

Preach
03-10-12, 17:56
Its not a 1911, it is clearly marked 2011. If only I would be alive in 2111 for the three barrel variant.

VaeVictis
03-10-12, 17:58
It looks like they have successfully ended the 9mm vs .45cal debate. Whose going to argue that one round of 9mm is going to be more effective than two .45s? Not to mention the gun also has twice the capacity.:lol:

VIP3R 237
03-10-12, 18:11
Gorilla hands included?

Preach
03-10-12, 18:14
Gorilla hands included?

This is why G.I. Joe needed kung fu grip!

Paul D
03-10-12, 20:20
This is why G.I. Joe needed kung fu grip!

The actual GI Joe action figures can use their mini-firearms. Unlike the crap from their gun side of the business, these miniture guns look pretty cool. Link: miniaturearsenal.com/

mallowpufft
03-10-12, 20:38
This is why G.I. Joe needed kung fu grip!

Well, shit. And here I was thinking that the G.I. Joe king fu grip was to make your mushroom tip go drip, drip.

Steve S.
03-10-12, 21:41
Well, shit. And here I was thinking that the G.I. Joe king fu grip was to make your mushroom tip go drip, drip.

Uuhhh...

That's the lovin' sound......

RIP Brad.

RagweedZulu
03-10-12, 22:18
The grip on that thing is the same as a Para-Ordinance double stack!
:no:

TacMedic556
03-10-12, 22:26
John Browning just threw up in his grave, rolled over and then shit his skeleton.

Oscar 319
03-10-12, 23:57
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/7396684/480/lulz/my-brain-is-full-of-****.jpg?v0

Gramps
03-11-12, 00:26
Designed and built by "Red Jacket"????????:sarcastic:

skyugo
03-11-12, 03:43
wouldn't 2 bullets per trigger pull be a machine gun? :confused:

Bowser
03-11-12, 03:56
wouldn't 2 bullets per trigger pull be a machine gun? :confused:

lol that would suck.

Singlestack Wonder
03-11-12, 04:36
ipsc shooters will want them and after enough complaining, uspsa will change their rules to allow them to accomodate a single shot double tap. :D

skyugo
03-11-12, 14:27
lol that would suck.

I seem to recall some cautionary tail of how if your double barrel shotgun goes off twice with one pull of the trigger that the ATF in their infinite wisdom would consider that an unregistered machine gun...

I honestly don't see how this thing is functionally any different from a pistol with a 2 round burst setting.

snappy
03-11-12, 17:10
Aim once, miss twice...

MrSmitty
03-11-12, 18:43
John Browning just threw up in his grave, rolled over and then shit his skeleton.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

TehLlama
03-12-12, 01:22
Clicking that link was only worth it for the involuntary stream of expletives my wife spewed forth.

Hawg_Leg
03-12-12, 03:51
wouldn't 2 bullets per trigger pull be a machine gun? :confused:


looks like it has two triggers.

skyugo
03-12-12, 09:46
looks like it has two triggers.

so if you fail to pull them at exactly the same time does it eject a live round from the "slow" side or does it just fail to extract altogether?

Animal_Mother556
03-12-12, 10:01
I just came

MrSmitty
03-12-12, 11:25
so if you fail to pull them at exactly the same time does it eject a live round from the "slow" side or does it just fail to extract altogether?

I've been trying to figure out how the hell it would work!

Somebody wasted a lot of time creating that piece of garbage...

skyugo
03-12-12, 22:13
I've been trying to figure out how the hell it would work!

Somebody wasted a lot of time creating that piece of garbage...

it seems like having it depend on 2 rounds going off at the exact same time makes malfunctions fairly likely. I guarantee the ATF is going to put the hammer down on that thing too.

SMETNA
03-12-12, 23:20
Needs twin bayonets.

YES!

How's anyone going to find a holster for that hoss? I guess it would fit into a double AR pouch.

If someone wanted to get a head start on making some kydex holsters for it I bet they'd sell a couple. Literally.

Moose-Knuckle
03-13-12, 02:44
Gecko45 lives!

SMETNA
03-13-12, 05:49
Gecko45 lives!

Who me? Dammit . . . .

Moltke
03-13-12, 07:29
The AF 2011A1 - OMG DOES IT SHOOT .410 TOO?

Preach
03-13-12, 10:40
It just made it on msn.com as an editor's pick. "chilling new handgun" and "the power to knock down a bull"

MrSmitty
03-13-12, 11:28
It just made it on msn.com as an editor's pick. "chilling new handgun" and "the power to knock down a bull"

:lol::lol: The only thing 'chilling' to me is the sheer stupidity of this thing...

JW5219
03-13-12, 11:35
I can't believe that they thought there would be a market for that POS. :rolleyes:

mallowpufft
03-13-12, 12:09
It just made it on msn.com as an editor's pick. "chilling new handgun" and "the power to knock down a bull"

Just for that it's worth buying three. And then selling them to some Bubbas...

Just wait until MSN learns the horror of the .22LR that's usually used for knocking down cows...

DocH
03-13-12, 17:25
YES!

How's anyone going to find a holster for that hoss? I guess it would fit into a double AR pouch.

If someone wanted to get a head start on making some kydex holsters for it I bet they'd sell a couple. Literally...... and on the positive side,it should really be comfortable in IWB carry.:D:D

nobody knows
03-13-12, 20:27
I bet you $5 it will end up on TOS with the zombie model eotech mounted on it within a month LOL:D

Jellybean
03-13-12, 23:12
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.....
That's just freakin' retarded.

And for all that, they didn't think to have the slides operate independantly? So much for twice the capacity.
Though I suppose it'll come in handy for all those instant double-taps....Next thing you know they'll spew forth version 2.0 with otuward-canted barrels so you can shoot two targets at the same time....:rolleyes:

SMETNA
03-13-12, 23:17
They should strap that thing into the "corner shot"

Oh shit!

TacMedic556
03-14-12, 11:05
John Browning just threw up in his grave, rolled over and then shit his skeleton.

I said it once, I'll say it again.

Not only is it practically useless, it's not even a good conversation piece. What you you discuss while peering over it? How stupid you were to buy it? How you could have spent the money on pretty much anything more useful?

Jeff Cooper, the Godfather of the modern technique of the Pistol may rise from the dead to hunt down and kill those who manufacture this abortion.:suicide:

black_m4
03-14-12, 11:32
I have a couple questions:

How do you conceal this?

Is this what he thought a double stack 1911 is?

How long will this take to become legal for IDPA because I will have the fastest follow up shots ever.

JonnyVain
03-15-12, 11:22
What would be really sweet is if you could twist them and pull them apart to use separately. Like those swords in the kung fu movies.

Or a selectable mode, where you can choose simultaneous fire, or a 2 round burst.

JonnyVain
03-15-12, 11:23
I said it once, I'll say it again.

Not only is it practically useless, it's not even a good conversation piece. What you you discuss while peering over it? How stupid you were to buy it? How you could have spent the money on pretty much anything more useful?

Jeff Cooper, the Godfather of the modern technique of the Pistol may rise from the dead to hunt down and kill those who manufacture this abortion.:suicide:

Well, look on the bright side - they could have bought a Hi-point

TomMcC
03-15-12, 11:59
I'm looking forward to seeing the movie where some hero/tough guy is using 2 of these, one in each hand, firing simultaneously while in midair. It should be epic!

bcs135
03-15-12, 12:51
I'm looking forward to seeing the movie where some hero/tough guy is using 2 of these, one in each hand, firing simultaneously while in midair. It should be epic!

You need to watch the Green Hornet then. Same concept different design.

http://greenhornet.wikia.com/wiki/Benjamin_Chudnofsky


so if you fail to pull them at exactly the same time does it eject a live round from the "slow" side or does it just fail to extract altogether?

A friend looked at the specs the second trigger is really just for show, internals apparently work on one trigger sear, it will always fire 2 rounds.

I'm pretty sure this is blasphemous to bastardize a 1911 like this. I especially like the quality work on the barrel bushings, looks like super dremel work to get 2 standard bushing to fit.

bcs135
03-15-12, 12:57
[QUOTE=bcs135;1258305]You need to watch the Green Hornet then. Same concept different design.

Oops missed the part about one in each hand.
I guess we're still patiently waiting for Epic Action Movie: The Movie to show us that.

Moltke
03-15-12, 13:21
A friend looked at the specs the second trigger is really just for show, internals apparently work on one trigger sear, it will always fire 2 rounds.

No.


From the AF2011 description on their website:
"The AF2011-A1 (“Twenty Eleven” for aficionados) can be ordered either with 2 independent triggers and one sear group (left or right, with user-interchangeability for right or left operations) or with 2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups."


That says to me, one bullet at a time.

bcs135
03-15-12, 13:32
No.


From the AF2011 description on their website:
"The AF2011-A1 (“Twenty Eleven” for aficionados) can be ordered either with 2 independent triggers and one sear group (left or right, with user-interchangeability for right or left operations) or with 2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups."


That says to me, one bullet at a time.

To me that says 2 bullets all the time.
Unless I'm mistaken
2 independent triggers and one sear group = either trigger will work one sear that fires both barrel.

2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups = pull one trigger pull the other trigger, and regardless of 1 or 2 sears would still fire both barrels.

I don't see the option for 2 independent triggers and 2 sears.

Moltke
03-15-12, 13:38
No.


From the AF2011 description on their website:
"The AF2011-A1 (“Twenty Eleven” for aficionados) can be ordered either with 2 independent triggers and one sear group (left or right, with user-interchangeability for right or left operations) or with 2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups."


That says to me, one bullet at a time.

That's what says it to me but I could be wrong. Anyone got a definitive answer?

bcs135
03-15-12, 13:45
No.


From the AF2011 description on their website:
"The AF2011-A1 (“Twenty Eleven” for aficionados) can be ordered either with 2 independent triggers and one sear group (left or right, with user-interchangeability for right or left operations) or with 2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups."


That says to me, one bullet at a time.

I guess it is how each of us read it, to me that says you can make either trigger work the sear, but in having only one sear the trigger that is configured to work would still fire both barrels. I guess we would need the manufacture to clear that up. The gun is such an abomination though I don't care enough to find out more that the conjecture we put forth here. :D

JonnyVain
03-15-12, 19:11
There's probably some sort of block that prevents firing until both are pulled.

MegademiC
03-16-12, 12:15
It needs to have both triggers pulled to fire two rounds. 1 trigger+1 pull+ 2 bullets = machinegun.