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FChen17213
03-14-12, 20:33
I know Glocks are now in the s prefixes now. I have heard of many Gen3 problems with R prefixes and afterward. We all want to get an earlier Gen3 gun. My question is whether anyone knows what serial number Gen3s started to go bad like Gen4s. I have an earlier one with L prefix that is gtg. However, I am worried that my Pey prefix one is going to be a lemon. It is an rtf2 gun and I specifically got it because I thought that the Rtf guns were before the whole Gen4 and late Gen3 fiasco. Anyone know an approx serial number cutoff?

davebee456
03-15-12, 00:26
Anything before M.
P through S are suspect thats like 2010-2011.

I am lucky because I have a 2003 Mint never fired Glock 19 and a 2009 Austrian Proof Marked G19.
My Glock 21SF is a P serial number and its fine...I think the 9mm's from 2010 to 2012 are the ones to look out for.




I know Glocks are now in the s prefixes now. I have heard of many Gen3 problems with R prefixes and afterward. We all want to get an earlier Gen3 gun. My question is whether anyone knows what serial number Gen3s started to go bad like Gen4s. I have an earlier one with L prefix that is gtg. However, I am worried that my Pey prefix one is going to be a lemon. It is an rtf2 gun and I specifically got it because I thought that the Rtf guns were before the whole Gen4 and late Gen3 fiasco. Anyone know an approx serial number cutoff?

TysonB209
03-15-12, 00:55
I recently bought a G19 that has an S prefix and after close to a thousand rounds through it, it's been fine. I've gotten a couple failure to ejects but that was only with cheap, Tula, steel cased ammo. Everything else has fed fine through the gun. I'm assuming it's a luck of the draw thing similar to Kimber 1911's. There are some lemons here and there but I think for the most part they're still pretty solid.

ROUTEMICHIGAN
03-15-12, 02:41
R prefix here- 1,960 trouble free rounds and counting. Ran it through a 2 day Defoor Advanced pistol course with no problems. Love this gun.

nimdabew
03-15-12, 14:53
SEZ that would fail to ejecto, stovepipe, or send brass back at my face every three or four rounds. It was rare to get through a magazine with no failures, and common to have multiple failures in a single magazine.

1milkman
03-16-12, 09:21
I have G34 RSW test date 06-21-11
G26 PZU test date 01-13-11
Both with over 1000 rounds with no problems

m1a_scoutguy
03-16-12, 09:42
I have a NDW Prefix & it is a RTF Series,,the original RTF before they switched. It is after the M prefix,,but it has been a awesome pistol with no problems ! I easily have 5K through the gun !! :)

Stickman
03-16-12, 23:10
I have a B prefix G19, I'm pretty sure its safe..... :D

DAVID RICHARDS
03-16-12, 23:27
Two late model GEN3 G19's. PSUXXX and PLUXXX both of them all kinds of problems.

tuck
03-16-12, 23:37
I've got a PVV prefix G26. Around a 1000 rounds through it with no malfunctions. It'll have an occasional eratic ejection with 115gr Wolf though.

FChen17213
03-17-12, 16:05
Maybe we should create a sticky database with which prefixes are problematic and which have been good to go. Then the members of this forum will know which to avoid when shopping for their next Glock. From what I can tell, everything before P seems to be ok.

pr1042
03-17-12, 16:18
I had a G26 (PTZ), had consistent erratic ejection but never a FTF or FTE. Used WWB, UMC, and Fed HST +P in it

Bogart
06-03-12, 16:06
Sorry to bump an older thread but I may have a chance to get a used Gen 3 G19 for a good price and was wondering if someone could provide a sample/fake Glock serial # so I could know what to look for or avoid. You guys are mentioning prefixes and letters, etc. but I don't even know what exactly you're referring to, not being a Glock guy (as of right now anyway).

Thanks!

drtywk
06-03-12, 17:23
The three letter prefix is related to the first three letters/numbers that make up the serial number. These can be found on the side of the slide and the bottom of the dust cover on the frame stamped in the silver colored metal strip. It is three letters followed by three numbers for a total of six characters.

Bogart
06-03-12, 17:38
Thanks! So the first of those three letters should be an M or earlier for a Gen 3 G19 to be good to go, correct?

F-Trooper05
06-03-12, 18:09
Mine is NLA with a test fire brass date of June '09. It's good to go.

Evil Colt 6920
06-03-12, 18:20
My G34 is a G prefix... 15K+ rounds through it with no problems.

filthy phil
06-03-12, 18:32
my "n" gen 3 20 and my "s" gen 3 17 worked fine, even letting a weak hands oldster fire them both. no cases to the face, using cheap federal and wwb fmj's

shutup&shoot
06-04-12, 07:55
Ser# PEPxxx
G 17 rtf now pegging me in the face and stove pipes.

Further info in gen 3 gen 4 extractor issue thread

PSBT4117
06-04-12, 12:28
NSS prefix G17 has been good so far.

JML2321
06-04-12, 13:29
Just purchased a TBR prefix gen 3 19. Will update on ejection after I get time to fire it. Also it left the factory 4-26-12.

trinydex
06-04-12, 15:54
gen 3 g26 with a p series serial

ejected brass in face. changed extractor and things improved ever so slightly. now i have a revised ejector. will report when ive test fired more.

bwphelan11
06-04-12, 16:18
Gen 3 19 RTF2 PED prefix 04-26-10 test fire date-approximately 2500 rounds no issues

Gen 3 19 NHG prefix 06-16-09 test fire date-former demo gun bought used unknown round count. Fired approximately 400 rounds since purchase no issues.

brickboy240
06-04-12, 17:41
Gen 3 G19
SYK serial number
born on date 4-4-12
336 ejector

Did not have the ejection issues until round 700-800. Before that...it was golden. Today, I get 2-3 empties to the head out of every 15rd mag. Ammo makes no difference at all....does it with the expensive and cheap stuff. No jams or stovepipes ever...just brass to the face.

Waiting on Apex's extractor and hoping that and HRED will fix it.

(if not...I am going to the Walther PPQ or M&P...really want to stick with Glock, though)

filthy phil
06-04-12, 17:52
Gen 3 G19
SYK serial number
born on date 4-4-12
336 ejector

Did not have the ejection issues until round 700-800. Before that...it was golden. Today, I get 2-3 empties to the head out of every 15rd mag. Ammo makes no difference at all....does it with the expensive and cheap stuff. No jams or stovepipes ever...just brass to the face.

Waiting on Apex's extractor and hoping that and HRED will fix it.

(if not...I am going to the Walther PPQ or M&P...really want to stick with Glock, though)
i'm in houston and a 19 would round out my 9 collection. lmk

brickboy240
06-04-12, 18:02
Hot brass on the forehead and down the collar is not fun.

Seriously, I think the Apex unit along with an HRED and lowering the ejection port will cure my G19.

The thing cycles fine...no jams ever and it hits where I want it...the only problem is the ejection.

The really odd thing is that the angle of ejection changes from shot to shot even if I use the same ammo from the same box in the same mag. Some barely dribble out, some go over my shoulder, some go to 3-4 o'clock and 2-3 per mag go straight to the forehead.

Really bizarre!

If I wanted to tinker...I would have bought another 1911!

- brickboy240

JML2321
06-04-12, 23:01
Hot brass on the forehead and down the collar is not fun.

Seriously, I think the Apex unit along with an HRED and lowering the ejection port will cure my G19.

The thing cycles fine...no jams ever and it hits where I want it...the only problem is the ejection.

The really odd thing is that the angle of ejection changes from shot to shot even if I use the same ammo from the same box in the same mag. Some barely dribble out, some go over my shoulder, some go to 3-4 o'clock and 2-3 per mag go straight to the forehead.

Really bizarre!

If I wanted to tinker...I would have bought another 1911!

- brickboy240

Try to clean the extractor and cavity the extractor sits in. I'm curious to see if this helps.

USMC_0317_SS
06-04-12, 23:18
I am very interested in this topic, as I have never heard of issues arrizing in late model Gen 3's and Gen 4"s. I have (2) Glock Gen 3's.
(1) G19 SAKXXX and (1) G23 RFHXXX. I have <900 rounds through my G19 and 1200+ out of the G23. I have never experienced even a single stoppage from either weapon system. Both have been great guns.
Interested to see how this unfolds in the future.

Inuvik
06-04-12, 23:45
G19 RGW### from 4/2011 2000+ rounds with a perfect record.

G34 SNF### from 3/2012 500 rounds - one case to the forehead out of every three or so mags. Otherwise running well so far.

Both are Gen 3 guns BTW.

brickboy240
06-05-12, 11:29
I completely tore down the slide assembly at about round #600 or so. Was not all that filthy....I was expecting more filth than I found.

Then at about 700-800 rounds, the brass started beaning me in the head. 2-3 times per15rd mag....ammo did not matter.

Cleaned it again and it was less filthy.

went out last weekend with 2 boxes of Federal fmjs and still got 2-3 hits to the head with brass as usual! LOL

Man...when will Apex have that extractor for sale? LOL

If I could solve my ejection problems...this G19 would be my favorite 9mm.

- brickboy240

GJM
06-05-12, 15:37
http://www.flarms.com/forums/showthread.php?113-Glock-Serial-Numbers

Spiffums
06-05-12, 17:27
My G34 is DDD...........YES Triple D! Just like I like my women too!:D

Rattlehead
06-05-12, 19:24
Glock 17, serial #: SST***

Approximately 4k through it since I got it around a month or so ago.
No issues with hand loads and various Hornady and Federal loads.

Hdog83
06-06-12, 22:23
Ser# PEPxxx
G 17 rtf now pegging me in the face and stove pipes.

Further info in gen 3 gen 4 extractor issue thread

That's a shame (or an evil portent?), as I have a PEPxxx G17 RTF2 that is performing like a champ.... What's your round count s&s?

shutup&shoot
06-07-12, 06:07
That's a shame (or an evil portent?), as I have a PEPxxx G17 RTF2 that is performing like a champ.... What's your round count s&s?

Apprx. 900 rounds in. The problem got worse at around the 700 round mark.

I detail stripped the slide and cleaned everything. The extractor came out with a little effort. I have not fired it since doing this.

I ordered the 30274 ejector from LWD yesterday and will try it out when it arrives. I'll keep everyone posted with the results.

whick1
06-07-12, 07:09
The earliest serial # I have heard of or read about having issues were in the M-- prefixes. According to Glock LHY was last prefix to use the old investment cast extractor and LZV is 1st to have the new MIM extractor.
I have 2 Glock 22s with LPA serial numbers one has close to 10,000 rds thru it while the other has about 6,000 both have been flawless with all ejection in neat pile at 4-5 oclock

duece71
06-07-12, 08:15
GS prefix G19, approx 1000 rounds so far. An occaisonal empty to the forehead but nothing consistent. I bought mine in Oct. 2010 with a test fire in 09/10.
Much older G17 (bought in 2004) with no problems, wierd ejections etc.... It does shoot left, but new heinie sights and trigger job should take care of that.....:dance3:

ridgerunner70
06-09-12, 18:55
Have a G17 gen3 DTR***US , have no idea how old it is. No issues

lunchbox
06-09-12, 20:30
Glock 23 RYL*** Date on test bullets envlope is 10/12/11..250ish rds through it with no problems will take to first pistol class tomorrow and shove 500 down pipe for first real test.:smile:

NC_DAVE
06-09-12, 20:45
It is my understanding that glock gen3 had problems about 2010. I called glock and was given this list of prefixs before 2010 for the G17.

PAK
PAH
NXP
NUX
NUT
NUS
NSR
NSN
NPC
If you want another model call them 770-432-1202.

FChen17213
06-09-12, 23:38
I put about 1000 rounds through my PEY prefix RTF2 gun before the stovepipes and brass to face started to occur. Sent the gun back to Glock and got it back in about 2 weeks. I've only put 100 rounds back through it with no real problems so far. Still kind of weak ejection, but that's sort of to be expected in a Glock. As far as I could tell, they didn't do crap. Still the same old 336 ejector. I'm going to keep shooting this gun and see what happens.

On another note, I'd like to see if anyone here has had problems with Gen3 Glocks with prefix before P**. So far I haven't heard of any. I've seen numerous posts here about pre P prefix guns performing flawlessly which doesn't surprise me at all. Also, some people have had moderate round count guns with P-prefix and R-prefix guns which have functioned fine.

1milkman
06-10-12, 00:22
Have a G17 gen3 DTR***US , have no idea how old it is. No issues

DTR - G-17 - June 2000 - 3rd Gen.

ralph
06-10-12, 09:06
I put about 1000 rounds through my PEY prefix RTF2 gun before the stovepipes and brass to face started to occur. Sent the gun back to Glock and got it back in about 2 weeks. I've only put 100 rounds back through it with no real problems so far. Still kind of weak ejection, but that's sort of to be expected in a Glock. As far as I could tell, they didn't do crap. Still the same old 336 ejector. I'm going to keep shooting this gun and see what happens.

On another note, I'd like to see if anyone here has had problems with Gen3 Glocks with prefix before P**. So far I haven't heard of any. I've seen numerous posts here about pre P prefix guns performing flawlessly which doesn't surprise me at all. Also, some people have had moderate round count guns with P-prefix and R-prefix guns which have functioned fine.

check in the glock extraction issue thread towards the bottom of the page, Pg 37, Member by the name of Ed L. has pics of a Gen2 G17 that was pelting him with emptys..Note Randy's fix...

VIP3R 237
06-28-12, 09:49
Model 23 sn SBSxxx has erratic ejection.

marh415
07-02-12, 17:13
Model 17, PMK prefix, erratic ejection, brass to the forehead once out of a few thousand rounds. No stovepipes, failure to feed/eject to speak of. I have the latest RSA and also had Glock install the new ejector. So far so good last few trips to the range, we'll see what happens!

Just realized that we're speaking of Gen 3's only, please disregard my post.

grantoga
07-03-12, 12:08
Bought a used G19 serial NAP*** built in May 2009. Fired about 800 rounds so far with no issues. It has an extractor with no dip on the top but has casting sprue marks. Perhaps a transitional extractor?
ETA Just fired another 100 rounds of Tula today. Consistent extraction except for one brass to the face. Maybe a fluke?

ccarrier
07-08-12, 14:58
nst here and no issues

grantoga
07-11-12, 22:20
nst here and no issues

Is yours a dip extractor?

MFWIC2
07-12-12, 03:11
Have a G22 Gen.3 with DEV.... No issues, slide currently on it's way to Mark @ L & M Precision. :)
Can't wait to get it back.

G19 Driver
07-13-12, 15:42
My G19 is a nsz prefix with 6000 rounds through it. Zero issues to report.

saddlerocker
07-13-12, 22:20
Are all the OD Glocks considered gtg?

I found an OD G17 and the guy doesnt want a crazy amount of money because its OD.

Glocks are so damn ugly, the OD helps a little, so this is what im goin after.

JonInWA
07-14-12, 08:20
SDA prefix G19 performs flawlessly; however, IMMEDIATELY upon arrival I replaced the dip/MIM extractor with a NOS cast LCI ejector (and concurrently swapped out the OEM slide stop with the Glock extended slide stop/release). I'm also running it with a minus connector and a NY1 spring, and an earlier NOS non-dogleg G17 triggerbar (i.e., with a smooth trigger face).

Best, Jon

AngeredKabar
07-16-12, 14:49
My stock G19 purchased new with SSZ *** serial number has ejection issues. It has the 336 ejector.

I first shot approximately 30 rounds of 115 gr Federal with the slide not locking to the rear, which I believe is the result of an improper grip. The ejection pattern seemed random but I had no brass to the face.

Then I shot 300 rounds of 115 gr WWB and am very discouraged with my Glock. When I shot my first full magazine of WWB I went to my car and pulled out a notebook and a pen and began writing tally marks on how many times brass hit me in the face. After I shot all of the WWB I brought I had 33 tallys. I also had a stovepipe at about round 150 that was the last round in the magazine. A lot of cases had weak ejection and a majority of the brass was at my feet, with several landing on my forearms. The slide not locking to the rear on the last shot also occurred regularly and when I modified my grip I didn't experience that problem anymore.

I've since cleaned the G19 when I returned from the range, but noticed the brass smear on the inside of the ejection port.

I'm going to try to buy the new Gen4 ejector and see if that fixes the ejection problems I have. I'd love to also try Apex Tactical's extractor when it becomes available.

If anyone would like further information, I'll see what I can do.

murphy j
07-16-12, 20:59
I had an MYK prefix G19 with 1500+ rounds that had no issues.

Arik
07-26-12, 21:43
Gen3 GGS G19 no issues but it was a police gun.

Just bought a Gen3 KBP G17. Used but barely, like maybe a mag or two. Which has me worried. Why was it traded in? Haven't shot it yet


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AngeredKabar
07-30-12, 20:19
Installed the updated gen 4 ejector today and shot 100 rounds and that seems to have cured the brass to the face issue. However during the first 50 or so I had my Surefire X300 mounted on it and experienced 2 stovepipes, one was the infamous G19 inline stovepipe.

I'm having a real hard time wanting to keep this until I can get a hold of an Apex extractor.

brushy bill
07-30-12, 21:57
SDA prefix G19 performs flawlessly; however, IMMEDIATELY upon arrival I replaced the dip/MIM extractor with a NOS cast LCI ejector (and concurrently swapped out the OEM slide stop with the Glock extended slide stop/release). I'm also running it with a minus connector and a NY1 spring, and an earlier NOS non-dogleg G17 triggerbar (i.e., with a smooth trigger face).

Best, Jon

Jon (or anyone else),
Mind educating me on what NOS means? Likely dumb question, but I'm not tracking / at a loss. Thanks.

AngeredKabar
08-14-12, 23:02
Another update on my SSZ *** G19 that exhibited brass to face ejection problems in stock configuration.

I ordered and installed a Lone Wolf .40 extractor last week and did some testing today.

I replaced the upgraded ejector with the original ejector and shot 100 rounds of WWB with my X300 not installed. Ejection pattern was about the same as original extractor and the gen 4 ejector which was 4-5 O'Clock and several feet behind me. However when I installed the X300 I was getting stovepipes just like my experience before.

So I reinstalled the gen 4 ejector in conjunction with the LW .40 extractor and shot another 100 rounds of WWB. Except for 1 stovepipe in round 4 of the first mag in this configuration it chugged along. Light, no light, SHO, WHO, etc.

I shot several other brands of ammo after the 200 rounds of WWB; Federal 115 gr, S&B 115 gr, Lawman 147 gr for a total of 500 rounds for the day. I left the light attached and experienced no stoppages and only noticed one piece of brass pass through my hair.

I don't quite trust it yet, but this is going well so far. If only it was like this from day one. I'm still holding out for the Apex extractor.

bleaman225
08-14-12, 23:21
Jon (or anyone else),
Mind educating me on what NOS means? Likely dumb question, but I'm not tracking / at a loss. Thanks.

New Old Stock

The term refers to merchandise being offered for sale which was manufactured long ago but that has never been used. Such merchandise may not be produced anymore, and the new old stock may represent the only current market source of a particular item.

The above was directly stolen from wikipedia...

trinydex
08-15-12, 15:04
this is the first I've heard of light bearing problems. how concerning.



Another update on my SSZ *** G19 that exhibited brass to face ejection problems in stock configuration.

I ordered and installed a Lone Wolf .40 extractor last week and did some testing today.

I replaced the upgraded ejector with the original ejector and shot 100 rounds of WWB with my X300 not installed. Ejection pattern was about the same as original extractor and the gen 4 ejector which was 4-5 O'Clock and several feet behind me. However when I installed the X300 I was getting stovepipes just like my experience before.

So I reinstalled the gen 4 ejector in conjunction with the LW .40 extractor and shot another 100 rounds of WWB. Except for 1 stovepipe in round 4 of the first mag in this configuration it chugged along. Light, no light, SHO, WHO, etc.

I shot several other brands of ammo after the 200 rounds of WWB; Federal 115 gr, S&B 115 gr, Lawman 147 gr for a total of 500 rounds for the day. I left the light attached and experienced no stoppages and only noticed one piece of brass pass through my hair.

I don't quite trust it yet, but this is going well so far. If only it was like this from day one. I'm still holding out for the Apex extractor.

Phillygunguy
12-15-12, 12:34
I just picked up a G17 gen 3 with prefix DDH looked on the list of prefixes still cant find any info, I also used the search button, without any luck any idea what year this could be?

oldtexan
12-15-12, 14:59
I just picked up a G17 gen 3 with prefix DDH looked on the list of prefixes still cant find any info, I also used the search button, without any luck any idea what year this could be?

IIRC I got this info from the Serial Number thread at the Glocktalk forum site: The 3rd gen began with CXX prefixes sometime in 1998. DXX prefixes were made in 1999 and 2000, with EXX starting to show up in about Dec 2000. So I'm estimating that your DDH was made in early to mid 1999.

This is all subject to correction by someone with better info.

MFWIC2
12-15-12, 15:12
I have a Glock 22 Gen.3 with prefix DEV...
Any idea when this pistol was produced?

Phillygunguy
12-15-12, 15:33
IIRC I got this info from the Serial Number thread at the Glocktalk forum site: The 3rd gen began with CXX prefixes sometime in 1998. DXX prefixes were made in 1999 and 2000, with EXX starting to show up in about Dec 2000. So I'm estimating that your DDH was made in early to mid 1999.

This is all subject to correction by someone with better info.

I kinda figured it may have been late 90s but was weird was that prefix was not listed so wasnt sure Anyway Im going to shoot the shit out of it and hopefully not have any BTF extractor issues
Thanks for the info

KrampusArms
12-15-12, 16:19
G17c Gen 3 HFAxxx no problems not sure of round count, enough to know it works.

G26 Gen3 TFSxxx a little over 500. 1 stovepipe due to CA 10 round G17 mag I assume. Stovepiped on last round in magazine.

ETA: I have experienced brass to head with the G26, but very infrequently. It may be the brass, bouncing off the partition, as I can only shoot at the range. I never payed any mind to ejection really as Im focusing on the front sight. I'll be aware of ejection next time.

DocH
12-15-12, 19:28
Glock 17 NLA ser. prefix is GTG. Non dipped LCI extractor. My others are much older guns.

TACAV
12-27-12, 18:26
Glock 19 Gen 3, MDR prefix.

Never getting rid of this baby.

twistedcomrade
12-30-12, 20:31
G19 with a PAN prefix that has been GTG for 500rds. This primarily my wife's pistol and she is the one who shoots it the most. Brass in the face would be an issue to her. I also have a G21 Gen 4 that has been totally reliable, but it occasionally ejects brass that hits my head. This only occurs once or twice a mag. I didn't worry about since the guns has been reliable. Should I worry? BTW, it has about 400 rds through it.

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 20:41
G19 with a PAN prefix that has been GTG for 500rds. This primarily my wife's pistol and she is the one who shoots it the most. Brass in the face would be an issue to her. I also have a G21 Gen 4 that has been totally reliable, but it occasionally ejects brass that hits my head. This only occurs once or twice a mag. I didn't worry about since the guns has been reliable. Should I worry? BTW, it has about 400 rds through it.

500 rds is hardly any way to determine reliability
You need at least a 1000 or more and run it through a class before its reliable IMO, Glock 21 or any glock for that matter that has BTF is unacceptable. If you want a reliable glock it should be 9mm G 17 or 19 and at least 5 years old

twistedcomrade
12-30-12, 21:13
500 rds is hardly any way to determine reliability
You need at least a 1000 or more and run it through a class before its reliable IMO, Glock 21 or any glock for that matter that has BTF is unacceptable. If you want a reliable glock it should be 9mm G 17 or 19 and at least 5 years old

How has Glock remained in business and been profitable if they haven't made a reliable pistol in five years in any caliber? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but seriously, Glock has been releasing complete crap for the last five years? I knew that Glock had been having some problems, but I didn't know it was that systemic. I was hoping the brass to the face issue with the G21 would iron out the more I shoot it, but I have not been able to shoot it more at the moment without cutting into my stash of 45. I plan to put some more rds through it after this madness passes and hopefully ammo prices and availabilty return to somewhat normal levels.

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 21:34
How has Glock remained in business and been profitable if they haven't made a reliable pistol in five years in any caliber? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but seriously, Glock has been releasing complete crap for the last five years? I knew that Glock had been having some problems, but I didn't know it was that systemic. I was hoping the brass to the face issue with the G21 would iron out the more I shoot it, but I have not been able to shoot it more at the moment without cutting into my stash of 45. I plan to put some more rds through it after this madness passes and hopefully ammo prices and availabilty return to somewhat normal levels.
Use the orange search button and read about issues with late model gen 3 and gen 4. There's plenty, Glock doesn't care because either they haven't heard enough complaints our they just don't care. Unfortunately lots of firearms manufacturers are like this now a days , they try to save money where they can and cut corners, which in turn affects reliability. Most people don't shoot much to see any issues, or like myself I didn't know until someone mentioned it, now I'm aware. 5 years is a ballpark time frame from where they might have started to change the extractors, I think don't quote me. Plus a class I took was the instructors opinion of 5 years, not written but his opinion

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 21:36
[=twistedcomrade;1486682]How has Glock remained in business and been profitable if they haven't made a reliable pistol in five years in any caliber? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but seriously, Glock has been releasing complete crap for the last five years? I knew that Glock had been having some problems, but I didn't know it was that systemic. I was hoping the brass to the face issue with the G21 would iron out the more I shoot it, but I have not been able to shoot it more at the moment without cutting into my stash of 45. I plan to put some more rds through it after this madness passes and hopefully ammo prices and availabilty return to somewhat normal levels.[/QUOTE]
Use the orange search button and read about issues with late model gen 3 and gen 4. There's plenty, Glock doesn't care because either they haven't heard enough complaints our they just don't care. Unfortunately lots of firearms manufacturers are like this now a days , they try to save money where they can and cut corners, which in turn affects reliability. Most people don't shoot much to see any issues, or like myself I didn't know until someone mentioned it, now I'm aware. 5 years is a ballpark time frame from where they might have started to change the extractors, I think don't quote me. Plus a class I took was the instructors opinion of 5 years, not written in stone but his opinion

twistedcomrade
12-30-12, 21:52
Thanks Phillygunguy. I hope that my G21 is a keeper, but time will tell. A co-worker bought a G26 for his wife about the same time that I bought my G21 and he and his wife immedately had issues with the pistol putting brass in their faces and it also had jams with both of them shooting it. They both shoot regularly and own several handguns, including other Glocks. They sent it back to Glock and Glock returned it basically saying no trouble found. However, the problem has disappeared for two hundred rounds since they got it back. Time will tell. This thread makes me sick that I sold a G19 that I purchased in 1999.

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 21:56
Thanks Phillygunguy. I hope that my G21 is a keeper, but time will tell. A co-worker bought a G26 for his wife about the same time that I bought my G21 and he and his wife immedately had issues with the pistol putting brass in their faces and it also had jams with both of them shooting it. They both shoot regularly and own several handguns, including other Glocks. They sent it back to Glock and Glock returned it basically saying no trouble found. However, the problem has disappeared for two hundred rounds since they got it back. Time will tell. This thread makes me sick that I sold a G19 that I purchased in 1999.
I wasn't aware the other calibers were having the same issue but it makes sense

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 21:59
I will keep my G 17 for now, plus I bought a used glock 17 probably from late 1990 s I'll Keep But I'll sell my glock 19 as I just bought an HK p30 and from what I can tell I shoot it Better than glock

TriviaMonster
12-30-12, 22:09
Huh, me either. I mean I rarely keep up with any .45 guns so I'm not blown away or anything, but I though the non 9mm guns were G2G. My late 3rd Gen G23 is doing fine. Its had a couple F2E's (in the first 200rds and not at all after that) but I traced it back to one particular magazine.

Its funny how we never traded a little bit of freedom of religion after the Jonestown Massacre.

Phillygunguy
12-30-12, 22:13
Huh, me either. I mean I rarely keep up with any .45 guns so I'm not blown away or anything, but I though the non 9mm guns were G2G. My late 3rd Gen G23 is doing fine. Its had a couple F2E's (in the first 200rds and not at all after that) but I traced it back to one particular magazine.

Its funny how we never traded a little bit of freedom of religion after the Jonestown Massacre.

Yeah its posted on here somewhere I read it, but I'm no moderator, but I think we've gone a bit off topic

R0CKETMAN
12-31-12, 04:48
This thread is stupid in its current form:D.. Pre-fix blah blah blah

Two things need to happen in order to make it a useful resource.

1. Test fire date (so no one has to go to GT to determine manf date)

2. Updated first post with dates produced in chronological order and issue experienced, of any.