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NavyDavy55
04-30-12, 15:26
Installed a Timney trigger and an H&S stock.

Shot it today from the bench with sandbags at 100yds.

I think it likes the 168 match ammo better than the 149gr.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/My%20guns/4302012FedXM80C149GR.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/My%20guns/4302012FedGoldMatchammo2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/My%20guns/4302012FedGoldMatchammo1.jpg
orkan
04-30-12, 18:16
Try some 175SMK. You'll have the accuracy, but be able to get to a grand without issue. 168's leave a bit to be desired.
NavyDavy55
05-01-12, 05:24
Try some 175SMK. You'll have the accuracy, but be able to get to a grand without issue. 168's leave a bit to be desired.

My current range only goes out to 100yds which the 168gr performs very well at.

If I can ever get to a range past 600 or 800 yards I may try some 175gr SMK.

Thanks.
ICANHITHIMMAN
05-01-12, 08:03
I see your above post and understand you have no access to a range beyond 100 yards at present. However I cant stress enough shooting the rifle at 2-300 yards and seeing how it groups. Its a much better test of how it will preform at longer ranges. 100 yards realy dosent tell you much, some times it will work out well for you and others well lets just say you will be amazed.
NavyDavy55
05-01-12, 13:13
I see your above post and understand you have no access to a range beyond 100 yards at present. However I cant stress enough shooting the rifle at 2-300 yards and seeing how it groups. Its a much better test of how it will preform at longer ranges. 100 yards realy dosent tell you much, some times it will work out well for you and others well lets just say you will be amazed.

No argument there, it's just not easy to find a range close by at 200-300 yards.

100yds does tell me if I'm doing anything right or wrong. That is the first time the rifle grouped that well using the 168gr. Before the stock and trigger upgrade even the 168gr ammo didn't group that well.

BTW I am a very new precision rifle shooter and 100yards is a good test for my level (low) of experience.
orkan
05-01-12, 14:22
Very well.

Print this. (http://www.primalrights.com/images/targets/dotdrill.pdf) Then shoot one round per dot at 100yds... and post the results here. Be honest. :)
NavyDavy55
05-02-12, 04:58
Very well.

Print this. (http://www.primalrights.com/images/targets/dotdrill.pdf) Then shoot one round per dot at 100yds... and post the results here. Be honest. :)

I have a similar target I got from Snipershide. Now that I have my rifle working well I will try that and post it.

Is shooting from a bench with sandbags alright or does it have to be prone?

I am teaching a handgun class for the next 4 consecutive weekends, 5 if it rains. It will be a month till I get to shoot it.

Honest is my middle name. :happy:
orkan
05-02-12, 05:21
I don't care how you shoot it or what target you use. The important thing to take away from it is to stop shooting for group size, and start shooting for POI to match your POA.

The snipershide dot drill only had 15 dots... I like to shoot 20. You'd be amazed at how much more difficult it is to keep your shit together for those last 5.

If you want an endurance test... staple up 5 of them. It's the ultimate test of NPA. If you aren't exhausted by the end of a hundred honest shots... you are doing it right.
Canonshooter
05-02-12, 09:02
Installed a Timney trigger and an H&S stock.

If you're coming from the Hogue stock and factory trigger, the improvement should be easy to spot.

Cool target - I will need to give that one a try.
taliv
05-02-12, 10:56
at the Rifles Only Bushnell Brawl last month...we had a dot drill stage that involved shooting 20 rounds, one each at 20 1" dots on a sheet of computer paper, from 100 yards laying in the texas dirt. Your ammo was located approx 12' away and you were only allowed to take one round at a time to the line, so you had to get up and walk about 24' between shots and you had a 10 min time limit. (iirc)

out of ~95 shooters:

8 hit all 20 dots
6 hit 19 (i was in this group)
9 hit 18
5 hit 17
6 hit 16
11 hit 15
6 hit 14
(i stopped here just cause i got tired of counting. it keeps going on down. i think 5 hits was the low)

so that should give you a goal or at least a benchmark to compare your results to. obviously, this is a very competitive match that people flew in from all over the country to attend so the scores don't really reflect 'average shooters'.

honestly, as a stage i think this is really boring. (fortunately, there were some great stages there as well, including the helicopters and mousetraps) but dot drills are great for diagnostics and practice.

shooting the first 10 or so will tell you what your rifle/ammo are doing. the next 10 will tell you more about your mental state than the gun. after that, stuff like fatigue starts coming into play (i mean e.g. your pupils dilating in the tx sun on a bright white piece of paper, and the sweat in your eyes, and by that time the fire ants have found you, etc.)
cbr
05-03-12, 22:18
How to you like your Timney trigger? I have an SPS tactical in an HS stock as well, and was considering a new Timney trigger now as the factory one is rather heavy.
orkan
05-04-12, 00:46
If you like a wide trigger shoe... timney is for you!

I think I have around 12 or so timney's in various rifles. If it's a rem700 or clone, it has a timney in it.

Factory triggers are for shit.
NavyDavy55
05-07-12, 05:39
I really like the Timney trigger and can notice a difference over the factory trigger.
NavyDavy55
05-10-12, 12:02
Shot it today from the bench at 100 yards with one sandbag up front and one at the rear.

Top target is using .308 Federal 168gr Gold Medal Match SMK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/Targets/51012GMMSMK.jpg

Bottom target using .308 Federal 168gr American Eagle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/Targets/51012AmericanEagle2.jpg
rojocorsa
05-16-12, 18:02
I don't want to go off topic, but say I wanted to do this with a .22 rifle iron sights at 50 yds....

What would be a fair size (diameter) for the dots then? I'd love to give this drill a try, but my main bolt action is a CZ with iron sights. Also, last time I went shooting I got grief over using AQTs. They have some stupid rule about "circular targets" only.