Eurodriver
06-02-12, 02:48
Reference thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=104014
I won't go into details about what happened previously, its all (as much as I want to put online) in the link.
So yet again, I am on the SAME STREET as the last incident and had to pull out my firearm. This time, I was in danger but it was entirely avoidable...
It was about 0215, that great time when everyone is hammered and people are getting rowdy. I try to leave before 0130, but the mating habits of the homosapian male sometimes change things.
I'm walking this group of girls to their car. I immediately see a situation across the street (they are dumb and blonde and don't know any better, so they decide to cross the street at that spot). Could I have risked looking like a pussy and said "Lets cross the street further down the road"? Yes. But I didn't.
I take them to their car, say goodbye, go walk to my car, and yet again I am faced with a choice. I am at an intersection. I can make an immediate right, staying on the sidewalk where the riff raff is (there is an "ethnic" night club at that corner) or I can cross the street, then turn right...then walk down the street, and jaywalk back across the street back to my car.
In my infinite wisdom I decided "Nah, no way it can happen to me. Too many people out here."...except all those people were not my color.
So I start walking, and then the commotion starts. "Yo, what up cracker?"; "Hey hey hey, check this white boy out over here"; "Hey fool, what you want?"
At first I played it off, very casually. I'm not awkward around "homies". I recognized one guy I even went to high school with. I retorted with very vague, non condescending stuff. Just tried to be real with them.
Then they started circling around me. At this point I'm stuck and I said, out loud, "God damnit". Not in a threatening way to anyone, more under my breath and directing it toward myself. As in, "I should have known this was going to happen." I was seriously so angry at myself. Honestly, I think a part of me wanted this to happen. I wanted to show these ****ers whats up. But at that moment all of that vanished. Monday morning QB me all you want - I recognize that I ****ed up at that very moment and I'm still so angry at myself for it.
Then some home boy with dreads tells me "God ain't gonna save you tonight...give me 'twenty dollas' so I can get my shirt drycleaned after I whoop yo ass"; "Yeah pussy ass cracka! Give him 20 dollars!"
There are no less than 10 homies surrounding me at this point. Girls in the background giggling saying "Aww shit he gonna get ****ed up". They're within 5 yards and I obviously don't know whats behind me. It was pretty intimidating.
So I went to "reach for money", except I pulled out my S&W 642. (side note: Last time I was IWB carrying a Glock 26, but it was awkward around females because they would hug me and feel it. This just slips in the front pocket and no one is any wiser. This is also important if I happen to slip into an "unauthorized" area (such as a bar) and I don't have to worry about accidentally showing it. Of course, I never do that because it is against the law . )
I don't really know if this is what I should have done, because I had no idea if any of them had guns. My first thought was just to get out of that circle and I wasn't about to do that by spinning around like tinkerbell waving my weapon in all directions. I aimed it directly at "home boy" and yelled "Get away from me." while quickly advancing in his direction. I was glad that the weapon came out very smoothly (of course this is because I spend time almost daily practicing this in different pairs of pants...and because I am now experienced at drawing handguns at people while downtown :angry: )
As soon as I pulled out the weapon, he ran. When I was out of the circle, I turned around ( making sure there was no one behind me before doing so) and checked that no one was about to blow me away. Of course, they had all scattered like the bunch of scum they are.
I then retreated into a nearby sidestreet and called 911. My only thought at that time was that I did not want someone sneaking up behind me or taking a shot at me from where I couldn't see them, which is why I stayed out of the busy and open main road. Good choice? I'm sure there will be plenty of you telling me how stupid it was, but there wasn't anywhere else to go.
Police showed up within a minute, and this time I was actually treated like a human being. They did hold my firearm while we talked and I had to fill out a statement this time, but I wasn't tackled or cuffed or thrown in a police car. They explained there's really no chance of them catching anyone, and that "really, no crime was really committed by either party". I asked them if I didn't break the law by pulling out my weapon, how did I legally do so? I wasn't going to push the issue though. The last thing I needed was some cop trying to arrest me for "brandishing" a firearm or some nonsense.
I'm done with going out this late, it simply isn't worth it. Was I even in a legal position to fire that weapon if I had to? I certainly felt like I was in danger. We've all seen the videos of places like Baltimore. But how would that have held up in the court of public opinion?
"White man guns down unarmed sweethearted black young adult trying to turn his life around because he asked him for $20."
This is absolutely ridiculous. After the first incident I was pretty shaken up. Now I'm just pissed as hell...
I won't go into details about what happened previously, its all (as much as I want to put online) in the link.
So yet again, I am on the SAME STREET as the last incident and had to pull out my firearm. This time, I was in danger but it was entirely avoidable...
It was about 0215, that great time when everyone is hammered and people are getting rowdy. I try to leave before 0130, but the mating habits of the homosapian male sometimes change things.
I'm walking this group of girls to their car. I immediately see a situation across the street (they are dumb and blonde and don't know any better, so they decide to cross the street at that spot). Could I have risked looking like a pussy and said "Lets cross the street further down the road"? Yes. But I didn't.
I take them to their car, say goodbye, go walk to my car, and yet again I am faced with a choice. I am at an intersection. I can make an immediate right, staying on the sidewalk where the riff raff is (there is an "ethnic" night club at that corner) or I can cross the street, then turn right...then walk down the street, and jaywalk back across the street back to my car.
In my infinite wisdom I decided "Nah, no way it can happen to me. Too many people out here."...except all those people were not my color.
So I start walking, and then the commotion starts. "Yo, what up cracker?"; "Hey hey hey, check this white boy out over here"; "Hey fool, what you want?"
At first I played it off, very casually. I'm not awkward around "homies". I recognized one guy I even went to high school with. I retorted with very vague, non condescending stuff. Just tried to be real with them.
Then they started circling around me. At this point I'm stuck and I said, out loud, "God damnit". Not in a threatening way to anyone, more under my breath and directing it toward myself. As in, "I should have known this was going to happen." I was seriously so angry at myself. Honestly, I think a part of me wanted this to happen. I wanted to show these ****ers whats up. But at that moment all of that vanished. Monday morning QB me all you want - I recognize that I ****ed up at that very moment and I'm still so angry at myself for it.
Then some home boy with dreads tells me "God ain't gonna save you tonight...give me 'twenty dollas' so I can get my shirt drycleaned after I whoop yo ass"; "Yeah pussy ass cracka! Give him 20 dollars!"
There are no less than 10 homies surrounding me at this point. Girls in the background giggling saying "Aww shit he gonna get ****ed up". They're within 5 yards and I obviously don't know whats behind me. It was pretty intimidating.
So I went to "reach for money", except I pulled out my S&W 642. (side note: Last time I was IWB carrying a Glock 26, but it was awkward around females because they would hug me and feel it. This just slips in the front pocket and no one is any wiser. This is also important if I happen to slip into an "unauthorized" area (such as a bar) and I don't have to worry about accidentally showing it. Of course, I never do that because it is against the law . )
I don't really know if this is what I should have done, because I had no idea if any of them had guns. My first thought was just to get out of that circle and I wasn't about to do that by spinning around like tinkerbell waving my weapon in all directions. I aimed it directly at "home boy" and yelled "Get away from me." while quickly advancing in his direction. I was glad that the weapon came out very smoothly (of course this is because I spend time almost daily practicing this in different pairs of pants...and because I am now experienced at drawing handguns at people while downtown :angry: )
As soon as I pulled out the weapon, he ran. When I was out of the circle, I turned around ( making sure there was no one behind me before doing so) and checked that no one was about to blow me away. Of course, they had all scattered like the bunch of scum they are.
I then retreated into a nearby sidestreet and called 911. My only thought at that time was that I did not want someone sneaking up behind me or taking a shot at me from where I couldn't see them, which is why I stayed out of the busy and open main road. Good choice? I'm sure there will be plenty of you telling me how stupid it was, but there wasn't anywhere else to go.
Police showed up within a minute, and this time I was actually treated like a human being. They did hold my firearm while we talked and I had to fill out a statement this time, but I wasn't tackled or cuffed or thrown in a police car. They explained there's really no chance of them catching anyone, and that "really, no crime was really committed by either party". I asked them if I didn't break the law by pulling out my weapon, how did I legally do so? I wasn't going to push the issue though. The last thing I needed was some cop trying to arrest me for "brandishing" a firearm or some nonsense.
I'm done with going out this late, it simply isn't worth it. Was I even in a legal position to fire that weapon if I had to? I certainly felt like I was in danger. We've all seen the videos of places like Baltimore. But how would that have held up in the court of public opinion?
"White man guns down unarmed sweethearted black young adult trying to turn his life around because he asked him for $20."
This is absolutely ridiculous. After the first incident I was pretty shaken up. Now I'm just pissed as hell...