View Full Version : "Goodfella" Henry Hill Dead
And Dats Dat. So long "Hendry".
What a pathetic dope this guy turned out to be.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/mob-turncoat-henry-hill-immortalized-film-goodfellas-dies-age-69-gossip-site-reports-article-1.1094693
They have been running it on Starz/Encore the last month or 2. I watched some of it last night. He forgot his 1st lesson.......you never rat on your friends!
kaiservontexas
06-13-12, 11:49
You know it had to be posted: http://youtu.be/Rw9fsAP9GkQ Derek and the Dominos: Layla (Piano Exit)
My Blue Heaven is supposed to be based off of him as well.
He was awesome on the Stern Show.
Always funny stories and schemes.
Great movie but a real scumbag.
Moose-Knuckle
06-13-12, 15:27
Only in Amerika . . . :rolleyes:
Only in Amerika . . . :rolleyes:
How exactly do you turn everything into some kind of criticism of this country?
And no, criminal douchebags who never suffer any real punishment for their crimes are everywhere.
Moose-Knuckle
06-13-12, 21:03
How exactly do you turn everything into some kind of criticism of this country?
And no, criminal douchebags who never suffer any real punishment for their crimes are everywhere.
I don't. But give me a sec and I will see what I can do.
Where else can one lead a felonious life and then have the likes of Hollywood make a “docu-pic” about it thus giving said person instant celebrity status? There is a huge culture of criminality here that I have not seen elsewhere. Examples of this are found in our "culture". . . (i.e.) music, film, et al.
I don't. But give me a sec and I will see what I can do.
Where else can one lead a felonious life and then have the likes of Hollywood make a “docu-pic” about it thus giving said person instant celebrity status? There is a huge culture of criminality here that I have not seen elsewhere. Examples of this are found in our "culture". . . (i.e.) music, film, et al.
If other countries had a real movie and music industry maybe they would to.
I don't. But give me a sec and I will see what I can do.
Where else can one lead a felonious life and then have the likes of Hollywood make a “docu-pic” about it thus giving said person instant celebrity status? There is a huge culture of criminality here that I have not seen elsewhere. Examples of this are found in our "culture". . . (i.e.) music, film, et al.
Italy, France, etc. Really the only reason it gets noticed here is everyone else sucks at making movies.
Hell we're lucky Hill didn't become a member of the UN and end up with a Nobel Peace Prize.
I don't disagree with your criticism, Hill was a complete scumbag. But we glorify terrorists, mass murderers and racists as global heroes constantly.
Moose-Knuckle
06-14-12, 03:43
If other countries had a real movie and music industry maybe they would to.
Really the only reason it gets noticed here is everyone else sucks at making movies.
I can’t think of many other countries with as strong a film and music industry as the UK not to mention the amount of acting talent that comes from there. This is also the home to The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and Eric Clapton, so on and so forth. But maybe the UK has there own version of "gangsta rap" these days, I know not. Many American blockbusters have been shot in UK studios. I can only recall one British docu-pic in particular, Bronson (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172570/) that deals with a real life criminal. Whereas here we have a whole genre devoted to real life gangsters Goodfellas, Casino, Donnie Brasco, et al. and don’t get me started on the Mob Wives "reality TV" shows. Out of all the gangster films I admittedly enjoy Michael Mann's film about the life on John Dillinger, Public Enemies but I digress.
Hell we're lucky Hill didn't become a member of the UN and end up with a Nobel Peace Prize.
Hah! No kidding, if Obama can win one then anyone can.
I don't disagree with your criticism, Hill was a complete scumbag. But we glorify terrorists, mass murderers and racists as global heroes constantly.
No doubt, and I take issue with those as well. Robert Redford making films about his personal hero Che Guevara tops my list.
I can’t think of many other countries with as strong a film and music industry as the UK not to mention the amount of acting talent that comes from there. This is also the home to The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and Eric Clapton, so on and so forth. But maybe the UK has there own version of "gangsta rap" these days, I know not. Many American blockbusters have been shot in UK studios. I can only recall one British docu-pic in particular, Bronson (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172570/) that deals with a real life criminal. Whereas here we have a whole genre devoted to real life gangsters Goodfellas, Casino, Donnie Brasco, et al. and don’t get me started on the Mob Wives "reality TV" shows. Out of all the gangster films I admittedly enjoy Michael Mann's film about the life on John Dillinger, Public Enemies but I digress.
I'm going to give you reality TV as a whole. But the UK has something even more reprehensible than gangster rap, they actually have Islamic Terrorism rap. Course I'm sure you could also find it in Dearborn, MI.
I personally enjoy the genra of crime drama, especially the old pre codes like Public Enemy and Little Caser. And while I enjoy films like Goodfealls, Casino and Blow I try and be mindful that the actual people aren't nearly as personable as their onscreen counter parts and they are mostly shitbags who cause misery. Maybe each film needs to end with such a disclaimer.
Moose-Knuckle
06-14-12, 18:09
I'm going to give you reality TV as a whole. But the UK has something even more reprehensible than gangster rap, they actually have Islamic Terrorism rap. Course I'm sure you could also find it in Dearborn, MI.
Really? Wow. . .just wow. And people tell me that Western Civilization is not under attack.
I personally enjoy the genra of crime drama, especially the old pre codes like Public Enemy and Little Caser. And while I enjoy films like Goodfealls, Casino and Blow I try and be mindful that the actual people aren't nearly as personable as their onscreen counter parts and they are mostly shitbags who cause misery. Maybe each film needs to end with such a disclaimer.
I’ve always enjoyed crime sagas. If I had to name one movie as a “favorite” it would be Mann’s Heat. The movies you mentioned I enjoy as well, especially the ones by Scorsese. You and I don't romanticize the real life people that some of these films depict but there are many who do, such is life.
I'm going to give you reality TV as a whole. But the UK has something even more reprehensible than gangster rap, they actually have Islamic Terrorism rap. Course I'm sure you could also find it in Dearborn, MI.
I personally enjoy the genra of crime drama, especially the old pre codes like Public Enemy and Little Caser. And while I enjoy films like Goodfealls, Casino and Blow I try and be mindful that the actual people aren't nearly as personable as their onscreen counter parts and they are mostly shitbags who cause misery. Maybe each film needs to end with such a disclaimer.
I have found that a great many shit heads are very personable.
I can’t think of many other countries with as strong a film and music industry as the UK not to mention the amount of acting talent that comes from there. This is also the home to The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and Eric Clapton, so on and so forth.
I think the American music scene made those bands what they became. Both in exposure and money.
montanadave
06-14-12, 20:18
I have found that a great many shit heads are very personable.
Thank you! :laugh:
I have found that a great many shit heads are very personable.
Some are, but if you compared the real Henry Hill to the Ray Liota Henry Hill you'd probably be disappointed. Real gangsters tend to be real scumbags.
Really? Wow. . .just wow. And people tell me that Western Civilization is not under attack.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/feb/08/arts.politics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jun/28/arts.terrorism
I’ve always enjoyed crime sagas. If I had to name one movie as a “favorite” it would be Mann’s Heat. The movies you mentioned I enjoy as well, especially the ones by Scorsese. You and I don't romanticize the real life people that some of these films depict but there are many who do, such is life.
Easily one of my favorite movies, IMO Michael Mann's masterpiece. It should have been Miami Vice the film, but unfortunately that was a horrible piece of crap. Thankfully he redeemed himself with Public Enemies.
Some are, but if you compared the real Henry Hill to the Ray Liota Henry Hill you'd probably be disappointed. Real gangsters tend to be real scumbags.
Often times it depends in the setting and context of your interaction with them. I am in no way saying they are good or have redeemable aspects to them, I am just saying many are personable and try to use it to their advantage.
Moose-Knuckle
06-15-12, 03:32
Easily one of my favorite movies, IMO Michael Mann's masterpiece. It should have been Miami Vice the film, but unfortunately that was a horrible piece of crap. Thankfully he redeemed himself with Public Enemies.
I hear that a lot and often wonder had the series never existed if the film would have been better received? I think many who grew up with the series was expecting just that. I looked at them separately and rather enjoyed the film.
I hear that a lot and often wonder had the series never existed if the film would have been better received? I think many who grew up with the series was expecting just that. I looked at them separately and rather enjoyed the film.
I don't think so. The movie itself was horrible. The only redeeming part was the "new" Miami Vice theme which was actually pretty good.
The plot was nothing more than two episodes of the TV series lifted and combined. Perhaps if they took the time to develop a new story they might have put a similar effort into everything else.
But instead, much like "Sum of All Fears" we get the "white supremacist as bad guys" storyline complete with guys who have .50 caliber rifles but still live in trailer parks.
The we have Colin Farrel as Crockett making sure the lead character is the biggest fag in the universe. Jamie Foxx as Tubbs, which much as I hated him was probably the most competent actor in the film.
We had "hip hop and street hard" Trudy who was so annoying I wanted someone to shoot her. And then we have "tough as nails" Gina who has a 5 minute "Dirty Harry" conversation during a hostage rescue.
Add to that we have Gong Li cast as a Chinese Cuban national (because there are so many of those) and to add more crap to the pile they actually managed to make her look like shit.
The whole thing was just a ****ing train wreck.
I don't think the TV series hurt it, quite honestly it was a fun show but the bar was never set very high. More importantly Michael Mann was the producer of the series but not the director. The show was actually directed by as many as 20 different people and the mixed results are evident.
What hurt the film more than anything was Mann's previous directing efforts in Heat and Collateral which set the bar very high.
davidjinks
06-15-12, 13:59
Snip........
Note to self:
If I ever make a movie...hope and pray SteyrAUG is not the critic reviewing the film.
:D
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