View Full Version : .223-5.56 going obselete?
white spaniard
01-21-08, 22:16
Hi everyone I went shooting today and there were a couple of other people shooting AR style rifles, the person next to me had a 6.8MM and another upper in 6.5grendel, and another person had a AR10 . We got to talking and they wanted to know why I am still shooting .223 when it will be obselete in a couple of months its all going to the middle east, that is the reason they switched calibers, .223-5.56 is not going away anytime soon is it?
Ridgerunner665
01-21-08, 22:20
Thats what they said about the 1911 too...223/5.56 ain't going anywhere anytime soon...and I doubt it will EVER be obsolete.:)
They sound like recipients of some slick salesman's line.
When the Military changes maybe something will happen then again look at the 1911 they been saying its obsolete for years and there are more makers of it now than ever before ..
Now i wouldn't mind a 6.8 just to play around with but don't forsee it replacing the 223
MonteSmoke
01-21-08, 23:22
as long as there is a market for 5.56/223 it will still be made. tons of people have ar15 and other guns that use this ammo. it will be here for a while.
Hi everyone I went shooting today and there were a couple of other people shooting AR style rifles, the person next to me had a 6.8MM and another upper in 6.5grendel, and another person had a AR10 . We got to talking and they wanted to know why I am still shooting .223 when it will be obselete in a couple of months its all going to the middle east, that is the reason they switched calibers, .223-5.56 is not going away anytime soon is it?
You didn't actually believe them, did you?
You should have agreed with them and offered to take their guns and ammo off their hands now before the market collapses! :D
Buckaroo
.223-5.56 is not going away anytime soon is it?
.223 will be "going away" at about 2,700fps for a long, long time.
Another reason I never shoot at the public range....
Retarded conversation.
Jay Cunningham
01-22-08, 08:16
There is no doubt that all three of those alternate calibers are highly effective, but the fact you had 4 AR's on the line in different chamberings is more a comment on the versatility of the AR design than anything else.
Army Chief
01-22-08, 08:20
Easily the dumbest thing I've heard in recent memory. I think we would all agree that there are some promising alternatives out there for the AR platform, but 5.56 x 45mm remains the standard military cartidge of the free world, and anyone who might suggest that it is about to meet a near-term demise is merely broadcasting their ignorance. Laughably so.
Chief
It's like the 9mm cartridge - not the best, but adequate w/ a trade in weight and magazine capacity. It will be around for a long time, especially as we are expoting our rifles to our "allies". I don't think the new calibers are going to go anywhere - I remember when the .41 Action Express was going to make everything obsolete.
I remember when the .41 Action Express was going to make everything obsolete.
Or the 10mm in the early 90s?
Hi everyone I went shooting today and there were a couple of other people shooting AR style rifles, the person next to me had a 6.8MM and another upper in 6.5grendel, and another person had a AR10 . We got to talking and they wanted to know why I am still shooting .223 when it will be obselete in a couple of months its all going to the middle east, that is the reason they switched calibers, .223-5.56 is not going away anytime soon is it?
No.
I would also suggest not shooting at the same range again as it will make you dumber.
C4
white spaniard
01-22-08, 13:37
You didn't actually believe them, did you?
NO! I sure didn't, I just let them rant how the .223/5.56 is such a werk round.
The one porson with the AR-10 had a relative in Iraq and that person told him to ditch the .223 cause it aint worth a crap supposedly the person in Iraq shot an insurgent 6-10 times and that person ran away unharmed.
Army Chief
01-22-08, 15:38
The one person with the AR-10 had a relative in Iraq and that person told him to ditch the .223 cause it aint worth a crap supposedly the person in Iraq shot an insurgent 6-10 times and that person ran away unharmed.
Actually, we had a name for that phenomenon when I was in Iraq: poor shot placement.
Put 6-10 rounds of 5.56x45 center of mass on any evildoer, and they will cease functioning on a reassuringly swift and permanent basis.
Just for the record, 6-10 near misses from an AR-10 won't stop anyone in their tracks, either. ;)
Chief
But "even a near miss by a .45 ACP will drop someone."
Quote courtesy an FBI SWAT team member. YJCMTSU. :cool:
AllAmerican
01-22-08, 16:44
Hi everyone I went shooting today and there were a couple of other people shooting AR style rifles, the person next to me had a 6.8MM and another upper in 6.5grendel, and another person had a AR10 . We got to talking and they wanted to know why I am still shooting .223 when it will be obselete in a couple of months its all going to the middle east, that is the reason they switched calibers, .223-5.56 is not going away anytime soon is it?
If they are going away, not everybody knows about it. I bought mine the other day and the dealer said he was selling them as soon as he got them in.
No.
I would also suggest not shooting at the same range again as it will make you dumber.
C4
Yes, Stupidity is very contagious, beware!
Maybe that is why 5.56mm ammo is so scarce. The ammo makers have quit making it to be a step ahead of the trend.:D
Haven't seen much 6.5 or 6.8 ammo on the shelves either. What does that tell you?
Dang!!! I wish it would go away then maybe I could afford some decent ammo.
RogerinTPA
01-23-08, 21:07
Beware of what you hear on a range and war stories of REMF's claiming to have shot someone that many times and the guy just walked away. It's called BULLSHIT or piss poor trigger control! Most folks are not serious shooters, just some recreational shooters trying to impress the uninformed. The 5.56 ain't going any where for a long time.
The scarcity of the ammo is because the ammo makers and retailers are jacking up the price for profit. Wolf ammo going for $285.00 bucks per case my ass! I bought it for 135.00 last March! Hardly any brass involved with that round at all! So f@%K the weak ass excuse for the price of brass and materials.
You gotta be smarter than the equipment that you're operating, and for a weapon, that is especially true! If you can't master your weapon, then it's time to take up marble shooting. :cool:
the person next to me had a 6.8MM and another upper in 6.5grendel, and another person had a AR10 .
Well those three choices sure stomp 5.56mm for availability AND affordability. :rolleyes:
Maybe that is why 5.56mm ammo is so scarce. The ammo makers have quit making it to be a step ahead of the trend.:D
Haven't seen much 6.5 or 6.8 ammo on the shelves either. What does that tell you?
I think that means that maybe they're a couple places around this globe that a lot of ammo is being sent and used. I wonder where they are?:confused:
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