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Bob Reed
01-22-08, 09:04
Hello:

If Colt offered a 16" Barrel Carbine with a Mid-Lenght Gas System, would you still buy the 16" Barreled Colt's with the Carbine Gas System?

Thanks for your replies.

Mike91A
01-22-08, 09:26
I wouldn't.

C4IGrant
01-22-08, 09:35
I wouldn't.



Me neither.


C4

KevinB
01-22-08, 09:35
If Colt made a middy - I'd sell most of the guns I have now to buy a bunch of them...

markm
01-22-08, 09:36
I still love the 14.5 inch length barrel.

I don't know!

Jay Cunningham
01-22-08, 09:41
I think it would be QUITE popular.

rob_s
01-22-08, 09:53
I probably wouldn't either.

Now, if Noveske offers their N4 in a 16" middy, THAT would pique my interest.

UVvis
01-22-08, 11:37
If Colt made a middy I'd be a happy camper.

Lumpy196
01-22-08, 11:52
A 16" midlength gas system v. a 16" carbine system?


I'll take the mid everytime.

Failure2Stop
01-22-08, 12:17
I would definately buy a Colt Middie. As it is, I don't like 16" carbine guns anyway.

molsen
01-22-08, 12:32
I don't understand why someone would choose a 16" carbine length gas system if a midlength were an option.

Middie everytime for me.

markm
01-22-08, 12:36
I don't understand why someone would choose a 16" carbine length gas system if a midlength were an option.


Non standard hand guards and gas t00b! Not a huge issue, but i agree.

If you're talking 16" vs 16", you might as well get the mid length.

Cold Zero
01-22-08, 18:27
Sure, I would buy a Colt Mid length. I would take the middy every time.

Telperion
01-22-08, 20:50
Are the manufacturers hearing this? It's a shame that mid-length offerings are still comparatively limited.

Heavy Metal
01-22-08, 21:25
The White Tree of Valinor shines the light of truth.

I do not understand why more manufactureres are not offering mid-length options except for the NIH syndrome.

Yojimbo
01-22-08, 21:51
Even with Colt not making mid-length barrels I won't buy any 16" barrels without a mid-length gas system anymore.

The only time I would ever buy a barrel with a carbine gas system is for 11.5" SBR.

recon
01-22-08, 22:22
CMMG offers them.

Jay Cunningham
01-22-08, 22:28
CMMG offers them.

Colt > CMMG

DocGKR
01-22-08, 22:36
Colt (or Noveske) chrome lined 1/7 twist mid-length flat-top uppers would replace all my carbine length uppers (ie. 6920 type) if they were ever available.

recon
01-22-08, 22:36
Okay! :D

recce556
01-23-08, 15:59
Colt > CMMG
BY FAR.

BushmasterFanBoy
01-23-08, 16:07
Are there any drawbacks to the mid length gas system?

From what I had read online it appears that they are really great. The only downside I could even think of is that with the midlength, your forced to use longer hanguards to cover up the extra gas tube, which adds more weight.
Is this the only drawback? I don't have any experience with them, but would be interested to learn of the pros and cons of the system.

KevinB
01-24-08, 10:47
I'm a big fan of middies...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq/IMG_3481.jpg

Longer part life, more real estate on the rail - I find carbine handguard very short.

And of course the most important aesthetically pleasing ;)

rob_s
01-24-08, 10:51
In fairness though, it is possible to very easily "fake" a mid-length by just putting a longer handguard over a carbine-length gas block.

I think the part life and possible affect on recoil being the only real value.

UVvis
01-24-08, 12:04
I'm a big fan of middies...
Longer part life, more real estate on the rail - I find carbine handguard very short.

And of course the most important aesthetically pleasing ;)

I'm with Kevin on this one. I'm tall and hold the handguard near the end. The couple extra inches makes a big difference. Plus on a 16" gun you get a more balanced look. 16" carbine guns look almost goofy long on barrel to me. And like Rob mentioned, the recoil tends to not feel as sharp to me.

variablebinary
01-24-08, 13:35
I would take Middy Colt over Carbine by Colt

boltcatch
01-27-08, 01:46
I have long monkey arms as well, the middy length free floats are perfect for where I put my foregrip and light.

Personally, I'd take a 20" over a 16" carbine upper, as long as I had a telestock on it. Tried one for a while, it shot great and was reliable, but it just bothered me knowing I could do a little better (especially since I usually shoot with a can).

graffex
01-27-08, 11:01
I believe Grant is getting Noveske 16" middy 1/7 chrome-lined stainless barrels. Couple that with a LMT upper and you'd have a awesome middy.