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r3dn3ck
07-15-12, 12:50
I run a pair of .45acp chambered M94 mausers with custom loads I make from .460 rowland brass and .45acp bullets. The brass I cut down to .888 and my headspace wont' allow a case longer than that. The powder charges are slightly beyond top .460 rowland loads and ONLY for use in my rifles. I use the .460 brass so my .45acp pistols never see those rounds (head stamp diff).

My version of .460 runs a good bit hotter than any book load (I get flattened primers like any magnum but no cratering or piercing) and it's different enough that I need a canonical name for it so my buddy and I can communicate clearly when we're out shooting or in reloading. I can't just call it the rowland because I may add a true rowland conversion to one of my pistols. Lately I've been calling these "the rifle forty fives" but that's too many words.

So, help me come up with a name for it. It'll never go commercial production and it's only to help me speak clearly with my friend while we're reloading and or shooting (or packing for a shooting trip).

something like .452 Whackarat or .451 Cayenne or .45 Cinderblock

My wife likes .45 Cinderblock and I kinda dig on it. Thoughts, other suggestions are welcome.

Recipe for a sample load: .460 Rowland case TTL: .888", CCI MLPP, waaay too much Longshot, 185gn Nosler JHP or 200gn MHBLRN (moly hollow base lead round nose)

If you want the actual powder charge, PM me. I would post it but I don't want any rowland reloaders to think that it's safe in a pistol. You obtain and use powder charge information from me at your own risk.

lunchbox
07-15-12, 12:56
I do kinda like cinderblock.

fz1boxer
07-15-12, 19:22
45 cinderblock

J-cat
07-15-12, 20:01
45 Whoopass

nineteenkilo
07-15-12, 20:38
Another Cinderblock vote

r3dn3ck
07-15-12, 21:08
While I like the whoopass idea it's not practical as I'll have to wash my kids' mouths out with soap if they say it (mostly kidding). Cinderblock is in the lead. Any other ideas?

lunchbox
07-15-12, 21:12
Just don't name it anything mall ninja-e like "blackout":D

yhmspecter
07-15-12, 21:28
45 CINDERBLOCK

J-cat
07-15-12, 21:47
While I like the whoopass idea it's not practical as I'll have to wash my kids' mouths out with soap if they say it (mostly kidding). Cinderblock is in the lead. Any other ideas?

45 Buttspank?

Gramps
07-16-12, 00:41
.45 Spanker

.45 Hottie

.45 Thumper (.45 Thumperer)

.45 Mellon Eater

.45 Zombie Load (.45 ZL)

.45 Zombie Shredder

.45 Meat Shredder

.45 Shredder

.45 Vaporizer

10MMGary
07-16-12, 00:45
You already named it, just change it up a bit. 45Rifle

GunnutAF
07-16-12, 02:22
I'd rather have it's big brother 45 LC in my Win 94AE- less reloading. But I understand the need for a rebated rim for feeding, recoil must be almost nonexsistant in the heavy Mauser. :) With the big fat 45's how many does it hold 3-4 in mag?

PA PATRIOT
07-16-12, 08:56
.45 Troll

militarymoron
07-16-12, 09:32
based on your screen name, why not .45 Redneck?

r3dn3ck
07-16-12, 09:36
I'd rather have it's big brother 45 LC in my Win 94AE- less reloading. But I understand the need for a rebated rim for feeding, recoil must be almost nonexsistant in the heavy Mauser. :) With the big fat 45's how many does it hold 3-4 in mag?

It uses 1911 mags. holds 6,7,8,10,15, etc... Usually has an 8 or 10 round mag in it.

I considered going with substantially bigger round but the ability to feed from a detachable 1911 mag is too much fun. Recoil with regular .45ACP pistol ammo is non-existant but when I start getting the loads out in space it's got a little thump to it. It's a little like a .45LC from a rifle. My sporter barrled gun weighs about 7lbs. The other one with a heavy barrel weighs like 12. It has no recoil pretty much at all until the loads get nasty and then it's sort of a limp wristed shove. The 3rd one has a 28" tube and should have no recoil pretty much at all but I may do something more creative with that barrel.

lunchbox
07-16-12, 11:46
It uses 1911 mags. holds 6,7,8,10,15, etc... Usually has an 8 or 10 round mag in it.

I considered going with substantially bigger round but the ability to feed from a detachable 1911 mag is too much fun. Recoil with regular .45ACP pistol ammo is non-existant but when I start getting the loads out in space it's got a little thump to it. It's a little like a .45LC from a rifle. My sporter barrled gun weighs about 7lbs. The other one with a heavy barrel weighs like 12. It has no recoil pretty much at all until the loads get nasty and then it's sort of a limp wristed shove. The 3rd one has a 28" tube and should have no recoil pretty much at all but I may do something more creative with that barrel.

PICS!!!!! please.

r3dn3ck
07-16-12, 12:06
Here's an early pic of the heavy barrel 18". the sighting system on this pic is experimental and really just to see if we wanted the dot there or down the tube further. There's a new stock being sanded on now. It goes to the smithy next month for a little drill and tap action. The RDS will mount just forward of the receiver ring. this is on a 93 action
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/redfodora/IMAG0649.jpg

tapered barrel. 16.5". Wears peep rear and the original post front from the swede donor
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/redfodora/SA400007-2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/redfodora/SA400005-2.jpg


The 28" is mostly parts right now so no pics of anything interesting. I'm saving the pennies to get the chamber and flutes cut in the barrel. Another 94/96 action.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/redfodora/IMAG0532.jpg

lunchbox
07-16-12, 12:16
Wow, thats too cool man (look out for this guy:D). Cinderblock...Definitely Cinderblock.

Sry0fcr
07-16-12, 12:23
.45 Hydrostatic Shocker. Already has it's own logo. :D

r3dn3ck
07-16-12, 12:32
lunchbox brings up a point (at least one came to mind thanks to him):

please for the love of your favorite deity don't get into massively overpressure loadings unless you've done the research. I worked with a couple of guys that had done all the dangerous bit of the research before loading a single granule over book max. That said, these things are so much fun.

I think I'm going to call the vote in favor of Cinderblock.

thanks lads.

lunchbox
07-16-12, 13:34
lunchbox brings up a point (at least one came to mind thanks to him):

please for the love of your favorite deity don't get into massively overpressure loadings unless you've done the research. I worked with a couple of guys that had done all the dangerous bit of the research before loading a single granule over book max. That said, these things are so much fun.

I think I'm going to call the vote in favor of Cinderblock.

thanks lads.
No no thankyou, One of my many hobbies is lottering/coffee drinking and tale tell'n in gun shops, and aint none of them gonna belive this..Had to print out pics.

okie john
07-16-12, 18:57
Name it after me.


Okie John

CRAMBONE
07-16-12, 21:27
.45 Troll

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This seems very appropriate.

J-cat
07-17-12, 01:41
Wait, don't name it yet... I've got it:

.45 Obammer

r3dn3ck
07-17-12, 08:53
obammer? Seriously? Insert not sure if serious meme pic here ->

what the heck would I want to associate a cartridge spec with that disgrace for?

signal4l
07-17-12, 09:33
What velocities are you getting?

Sounds like a good short range white tail thumper

I like the .45 Cinderblock name

r3dn3ck
07-17-12, 10:03
from 600-1900fps, depends on the load. I'm trying to break 2000fps from the 16" barrel without getting into super light 165gn bullets.

I might use it for hunting now and then but really, it's just a fun gun. It's one of my favorites to shoot and it gets a lot of lookie-loos and positive comments when I'm at the range. Everyone is nervous to try it and then can't get enough of it once they try a mag full.

Conversion is super easy and it's about 160 bucks for the conversion kit, barrel and the cost of a mag release for a 1911. Takes a little bit of handyman skills to install it but nothing major. The 2 special tools (action wrench and barrel blocks for a vise) are a cost factor but not a big one. You can use large or small ring mausers though I've found the easiest to convert among small rings are swedes.

J-cat
07-17-12, 11:18
obammer? Seriously? Insert not sure if serious meme pic here ->

what the heck would I want to associate a cartridge spec with that disgrace for?

Well, you're going to have to find a less exotic name for it. How'bout the 45 Mauser? It's easier to associate with the rifle.

grendelbane
07-31-12, 16:12
Whatever you want to name it is just fine by me.

I some times load 357 SIG with an OAL of 1.270", and use them in 10mm magazines.

For some strange reason, I have named this cartridge the "357 Grendelbane".

Magic_Salad0892
07-31-12, 18:10
Name it after ''Okie John.''

sl4mdaddy
08-01-12, 07:52
.45-460

r3dn3ck
08-01-12, 09:03
Too late folks... .45 Cinderblock was settled on. Now being an Okie/Arkie extract living in california, the .45 Okie-John is tempting but that would be seen by family as naming it after my dad which is something I'm not keen to do. He gets no credit for this. He's on my feces list.

I'll be assembling a set of loads for the thing today. I'm going to be chrono'ing some rounds this weekend if I can possibly finagle my way into not being on call.

MistWolf
08-02-12, 00:04
After viewing the photos, it's clear the project names itself- the 45 r3dn3ck