View Full Version : 6.8 Noveske SBR with AAR!!!
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Specs:
10.5 noveske 6.8 medium contour bbl
PRI gas block and BCG
CMT upper
Denny's lower:D w/CMT parts kit
Magpul M93B and MIAD
KAC "too long" carbine FF RAS
ML3 4MOA in a Larue mount
AAC SOPMOD Flashider and (soon to be mine all mine) M4-2000 6.8SPC
Centurion Arms HK sights
TD vert grip
KAC panels
I LOVE THIS RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!
It likes SSA Match Kings the most and is WELL sub-moa with them. I've also had some success with Hornady 110 v-max rounds. The Remington stuff that I've tried you couldn't pay me to try IN THIS RIFLE again, but I've heard that the first production stuff is OK. I have a deer control permit untill hunting season starts that allows me to shoot them anytime of the day or night that I see them in the tree nursury. To answer many people's questions regarding fragmentation range with this newer round, I shot a doe at 200 yds with an SSA Matchking two nights ago and there wasn't even a shoulder left, the exit wound was EASILY larger than a grapefruit. Last night I took two more one at about 30 yds and the other at about 60, both were taken with the Hornady V-MAX 110gr, the first taken at 30yds had NO EXIT WOUND, and the second, larger deer taken at 60 yds had an exit wound that was about 6-7 inches in diameter. All three deer were knocked on their back and did not get up at all. I am very pleased with the effectiveness.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/shark3-1/Picture002.jpg
This is the Matchking exit wound, sorry but no camera for the V_MAX shot.
PS I will post more when I can, I thought that this could be fairly informative to some, if it's not, then thanks for looking at my gun porn anyway!:D
Heres a little video from this weekend:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bit_1fl5FxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bit_1fl5FxQ)
very cool.
My 6.8 noveske is my truck gun and I am trying to decide what ammo to put in it for 2leg and 4 leg creatures.
Looks like the Vmax might be good for people, but the SSA matchkings and prohunters are much less $$$.
Well, I can't speak for anyone else's 6.8, but my groups shrank nearly to half with the SSA vs. the hornady. with the added benefit of extra velocity!!!!!!!!!!
What is the length of that rail? I've been looking around for a source on 8.0s.
What is the length of that rail? I've been looking around for a source on 8.0s.
It's a 7and 15/16" long KAC rail. AFAIK they are the ONLY company that makes this length rail and it was a royal bitch to find as most people don't even know about them. A midlength rail would be too long as the SOPMOD flashhider comes about an inch back over the barrel from the shoulder. I thought that I would have to send the barrel back to be reprofiled to fit the SOPMOD because it comes back over the gas block area where a larue gasblock would normally cover, but the inner diameter of the SOPMOD was over .750" so no problems;) . The overall length with the suppressor mounted is right under 16".
Bought two more boxes of the Hornady 110gr V-max to use tonight. If I get a chance, I'll post the pics of the shots. I'm hoping to get a couple of shots in the 250-300yd range. I'd like to know the fragmentation range of the 10.5" 6.8 barrel and I don't believe that anyone has published publicly any of that information. I'm just guessing that I won't be able to go much further than 300 yds.
****Does anyone know what a good price on a chrono is??? I'd really like one, but don't want to break the bank****
Heres a little video from this weekend:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bit_1fl5FxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bit_1fl5FxQ)
damn that thing is purrty.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/bookhound068.jpg
After seeing how much range I had with the thing, I decided to change the setup a bit. The IR laser and NV help a lot.:D
That is a sweet setup. Thank you for your posts.
Voodoochild
10-08-06, 12:53
I fixed the picture for you. Upside down was confusing me.
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Here's a group I just shot at 300 meters, almost 400yds. The shot on the right was a called flyer. Ammo was Hornady V-max, it would have been tighter if I had sand bags or a bipod.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/bookhound070.jpg
I will try to get a picture of it later, but I was shooting cement blocks yesterday with Remington FMJ at 300 yards and it punched through the outside wall with a .270 sized hole and the exit on the other side of the first wall was about 4 inches in diameter. It barely touched the other side, the FMJ completely fragmented in the inside of the block, there were tiny peices of it all over the inside. While I understand that it was concrete and that it doesn't simulate flesh at all, fragmentation like that at that range with FMJ is pretty impressive to me. I promise that as soon as I get a chance to shoot some more living targets at that range that I will give a full review.
TheDutchman
10-12-06, 09:12
Any more Pics?
Any more Pics?
Not of any kill shots, I've been having really bad luck lately due to 2 new guard dogs at the tree farm where we have the pest control permit. I obviously can't use that rifle to hunt with anywhere else if I want to keep DNR happy. But the good thing is that we should start getting frost soon forcing the deer back on the property for a quick and easy meal. As promised, I will keep you updated.
If there is anything else you wanted to see, let me know.
:D
Is there any scientific testing on the performance on 6.8 out of SBR length barrels? How much longer is the fragmentation range?
Thanks
carry-a-big-stick
12-01-06, 23:33
That is a great looking rifle. I am thinking of building one just like that.
If you don't mind me asking who built that upper? Also did you get the handgaurds directly from KAC?
Thanks
Beautiful rifle! It's good to see how well the 6.8 performs out of a shor barrel like that - makes that offering from Noveske very tempting, I must say.
Thanks for the graphic pictures of the deer you plugged.
Voodoochild
12-02-06, 18:03
Yeah the 6.8 is pretty nice but the only turn off is the price of the ammo. Other than that it is nice.
That is a great looking rifle. I am thinking of building one just like that.
If you don't mind me asking who built that upper? Also did you get the handgaurds directly from KAC?
Thanks
I built the upper myself. The forend I got from Operation parts, I believe they have it listed as the KAC "too long" carbine FF RAS. It took a very long time for me to work out the parts build. I'm planning on building a copy of this upper in 5.56 with a SCAR-SD. It sould come in around 14" in OAL.
The concept of this rifle is to have a suppressed carbine that is the same length as an M4 with the can attached, while providing the same if not better range and knockdown ability. In my opinion, that goal was reached. This is the rifle I wish that I had in Iraq.
NickB,
I love your company, that is the buttstock that you guys sent me through Polite Society to T&E along with Mark's buttstock. I will have to say that while I do love this stock, I miss the handling characteristics that the heavier M93 gave my rifle, will the UBR be about the same weight?:D
Sopmood-
I promise to have more as soon as hunting season is over!
NickB,
I love your company, that is the buttstock that you guys sent me through Polite Society to T&E along with Mark's buttstock. I will have to say that while I do love this stock, I miss the handling characteristics that the heavier M93 gave my rifle, will the UBR be about the same weight?:D
I'm glad you like the M93. I wish I had answers for you about the UBR, but I'm just the graphics guy, unfortunately. I've shot a couple of the UBR prototypes, but I'm not sure what the material weight difference will be between those and the real deal. If you need more info, call 1.877.4MAGPUL and dial the extension for Richard Fitzpatrick. He should be able to answer your questions!
ETA: I just sent Richard an email. I'll post his reply.
Cato,
Pretty much ALL our 6.8 mm testing has been done with 12"-16" barrels. Some of the early tests in 2002 were with 18" barrels. We also have done a bit of testing with 20" and now have a 10" that we can begin testing with.
Looks like the estimated UBR weight will be 1.25 pouds bare, 1.33 with recoil pad, 1.38 with pad and strike plate, and 1.41 with pad, strike plate, and ACR type weld.
Thanks Nick for the heads up, but I thought that the stock had an integral strike plate built into it, still I can't wait.
Doc, I very much so look forward to the results from the 10" bbl that you now have for testing. I would like to know which loading gives the most fragmentation range.
New Pics:D
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Does the H&K rear sight not fit with the LaRue mount or is it just a PITA to look around?
New Pics:D
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I'm waiting for more deer pictures. :cool:
Does the H&K rear sight not fit with the LaRue mount or is it just a PITA to look around?
Yeah, it doesn't fit with the LT mount. you could put it over the barrel nut a little, but that would cause the mount not to be properly installed. I couldn't put it over the KAC barrel nut as it was too thick. Now that it's back to Troy's, I can once again run my beloved Eotech:D .
Well, I just got my 6.8 MRP barrel done. It was cut from 16" to 11.5".
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/guns003-1.jpg
I just couldn't afford to practice anymore, so I now have the ability to shoot 5.56 and 6.8 out of the same platform. I thought that for me this was a better idea than having two identical uppers.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/guns008.jpg
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The 11.5" 6.8 barrel as you can see will handle much like the 10.5" 5.56 barrel due to the SOPMOD mount. My 416-SD for the 5.56 should be at my dealer next week. I can't wait!
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/MG_32191.jpg
carry-a-big-stick
02-06-07, 21:43
I am having noveske make me a 11.5 inch 6.8spc barrel for a project. I needed to know what thread pitch to have him make me so I called AAC and asked them what the pitch is for the sopmod mount in 6.8. They told me that the sopmod mount wont work with my 6.8. :confused: . So I since you have one what is the thread pitch on it. (5/8x24?) I want a m42000 for it and I want to keep the barrel as short as possible. Any help would be great.
thanks
Sorry to hijack your thread. Oh and while im at it where did you get your sopmod mount?
I am having noveske make me a 11.5 inch 6.8spc barrel for a project. I needed to know what thread pitch to have him make me so I called AAC and asked them what the pitch is for the sopmod mount in 6.8. They told me that the sopmod mount wont work with my 6.8. :confused: . So I since you have one what is the thread pitch on it. (5/8x24?) I want a m42000 for it and I want to keep the barrel as short as possible. Any help would be great.
thanks
Sorry to hijack your thread. Oh and while im at it where did you get your sopmod mount?
1/2x28 standard 5.56 AR15 threads. The Noveske will be fine. What can are you getting???? Are you getting a standard M4-2000? If so then I for sure as hell wouldn't be shooting 6.8 through it. My can is bored out to .370 and is re-badged 6.8-2000. You could get them to EDM the bore of a standard M4-2000, but I think I would get them to use a .320 hole, the only reason that I'm using the .370 bore is so I can shoot 7.62x51, 7.62x39, .300/.221 out of the can as well, but the bigger hole means that the 6.8 is louder than it could be with a .320 hole.
Bolt_Overide
02-07-07, 11:39
Just out of curiousity, what the **** makes you think I want you to show me a gaping exit wound on a pig you shot?
Theres plenty of information out there on how effective those rounds are, I didnt need photographic evidence.
While you're at it, why dont you post a few pictures of bodies from Iraq so it will start the nightmares up for me properly.
If you cosmo tactical ****s are so interested in playing soldier, raise that hand, and go pull a tour.
carry-a-big-stick
02-07-07, 16:21
1/2x28 standard 5.56 AR15 threads. The Noveske will be fine. What can are you getting???? Are you getting a standard M4-2000? If so then I for sure as hell wouldn't be shooting 6.8 through it. My can is bored out to .370 and is re-badged 6.8-2000. You could get them to EDM the bore of a standard M4-2000, but I think I would get them to use a .320 hole, the only reason that I'm using the .370 bore is so I can shoot 7.62x51, 7.62x39, .300/.221 out of the can as well, but the bigger hole means that the 6.8 is louder than it could be with a .320 hole.
I want to get a M42000 that has been bored out. I also want the sopmod mount but AAC told me to get the barrel threaded in 5/8x24 and that the sopmod mount wouldn't work. I assume that they want me to have the 5/8x24 threads so that I don't put a flash hider on that is too small.
Did you have to bore the sopmod mount out or will the 6.8 round pass through? If it passes through fine then I will just get the barrel threaded in 1/2x28.
Thanks for the help.:D
carry-a-big-stick
02-07-07, 16:26
Just out of curiousity, what the **** makes you think I want you to show me a gaping exit wound on a pig you shot?
Theres plenty of information out there on how effective those rounds are, I didnt need photographic evidence.
While you're at it, why dont you post a few pictures of bodies from Iraq so it will start the nightmares up for me properly.
If you cosmo tactical ****s are so interested in playing soldier, raise that hand, and go pull a tour.
Hey ****youverymuch. Oh and I was In the Army asshole and I was airborne infantry at that. If you dont want to see pics of a dead deer then don't look. So go troll some where else.
Hey ****youverymuch. Oh and I was In the Army asshole and I was airborne infantry at that. If you dont want to see pics of a dead deer then don't look. So go troll some where else.
+1
Near Tikrit late '03, I'm on the left.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/shark31/wilsonandme.jpg
Maybe you should read the thread before you start trolling. Sorry that a dead deer makes you feel woozy. Maybe if violent things do that to you, you shouldn't be trolling in a gun forum.
As to the AAC SOPMOD, it is bored out to take 7.62 rounds. You will be fine, thread it 1/2x28.
ETA: do you have a good source for the flashhider? I think they do it in limited runs.
carry-a-big-stick
02-07-07, 18:07
No I don't have a source. Do you?:D
http://politesocietyinc.com/
QuietShootr
02-07-07, 18:19
Just out of curiousity, what the **** makes you think I want you to show me a gaping exit wound on a pig you shot?
Theres plenty of information out there on how effective those rounds are, I didnt need photographic evidence.
While you're at it, why dont you post a few pictures of bodies from Iraq so it will start the nightmares up for me properly.
If you cosmo tactical ****s are so interested in playing soldier, raise that hand, and go pull a tour.
http://sniper.rsvs.net/pwned.jpg
That better?
Did that guy trip over his own brain?
Sheeit...
Bolt_Overide
02-08-07, 08:11
Did that guy trip over his own brain?
Sheeit...
yah.. maybe I did. Note to self, stay away from the computer when drinking...
carry-a-big-stick
02-08-07, 16:07
http://sniper.rsvs.net/pwned.jpg
That better?
Look It hit him so hard it nocked of his shoes. :eek:
No, he actually never had shoes. You see, besides the promise of sex with underage virgins in heaven after "martyrdom"...they also promise allah will give you shoes and mohammad will tie them:D
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