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So no that I have my woa 20" DMR barrel on order I'm looking into stocks I have owned the moe and ctr but those were both on 16" barrels. This gun will be longer and have a bipo. I read that the ubr is a good stock because it's on the heavy side. Is it really worth the extra money over something like the acs? Or if you all have another stock to recommend. Not a fan of the a2 have plenty of time on an air field with that setup.
mallowpufft
08-11-12, 12:53
I run an MOE stock with an A5 RE on my 20" varmint gun. I keep telling myself I need to pick up a Larue cheek riser but I haven't gotten around to it.
I'm sure an Emod or UBRS or STR will give you a lot more cheek weld off the bat.
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decodeddiesel
08-11-12, 13:09
Do you want to maintain a telescoping stock with a carbine buffer system, or would you be willing to go to a rifle buffer system and a fixed stock?
I think for balancing out the rifle, and for a much better cheek-weld, a modern A1 length fixed stock (or even an A2 stock) would be great with this barrel.
If you are bent on keeping a telescoping stock, the Vltor A5 stock is really great.
As it sits my reciever only has the lpk in it do I'm open to either style buffer. Only reason I'm consider the collapsible stock is I will be climbing trees with this rifle to access my red neck tree stands. A1 shorter then A2?
Vltor EMOD with A5 Receiver Extension......this is available as a set.
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decodeddiesel
08-11-12, 13:25
As it sits my reciever only has the lpk in it do I'm open to either style buffer. Only reason I'm consider the collapsible stock is I will be climbing trees with this rifle to access my red neck tree stands. A1 shorter then A2?
Yes, the A1 is 5/8" shorter (think if it as like 1 or 2 clicks shorter on a carbine buffer tube). It really makes a difference in how the gun feels. Unless you have very long arms, the A2 is going to feel very big and overly long.
Also something else to consider is the the perceived recoil from a rifle buffer system is going to be a lot smoother than a carbine buffer system. For a DMR type rifle this could be very useful.
Fulton Armory has complete A1 and A2 stock assemblies for a very reasonable price.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/buttstockassemblygroupa1newblack.aspx
ETA: the Vltor A5 is kind of the best of both worlds. It allows you to collapse the stock, yet it uses the spring from a rifle system, and a proprietary buffer that is designed to work better with a rifle gas-system. It is spendy, but it is a very high quality piece of kit. When I finally get around to building my 18" SPR I am going to go with an A5 so my very small girlfriend (5'1", 100lbs) can still adjust the rifle for her size. If I was building the rifle just for me I would go with an A1 fixed stock.
Yes, the A1 is 5/8" shorter (think if it as like 1 or 2 clicks shorter on a carbine buffer tube). It really makes a difference in how the gun feels. Unless you have very long arms, the A2 is going to feel very big and overly long.
Also something else to consider is the the perceived recoil from a rifle buffer system is going to be a lot smoother than a carbine buffer system. For a DMR type rifle this could be very useful.
Fulton Armory has complete A1 and A2 stock assemblies for a very reasonable price.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/buttstockassemblygroupa1newblack.aspx
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The Fulton Armory A1 stock is where it's at on an 18" or 20" rifle, IMHO.
JBecker 72
08-11-12, 14:25
I'm running an A5 receiver extension with a B5 SOPMOD on my 20" rifle.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/hownowbrowncow_02/Guns/IMAG0274.jpg
I have used the UBR and CTR stocks on my 20" precision rifle. The CTR is comfortable enough, light and cost less than the UBR. The UBR is much more solid, heavier, more expensive and is more comfortable to use. I do notice a slight weight difference between the two stocks, more so than the difference in balance. I stay with the UBR because it gives a better cheek weld and feels more solid.
A fancy stock isn't needed for a DMR style AR. Get what is comfortable, practical for your use and fits in your budget
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/AR%20Build/DSC_0196.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Liberty/DSC_0157.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Liberty/DSC_0034.jpg
http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG404/181
I have one of these preordered for my 20" bcm. If it ever is released ill let you all know how it is!
That MOE rifle stock looks very interesting, I need to get my hands on one! lol
From what I've heard is the UBR is where its at, with a cheekweld that stays the same throughout positions.
I just bought a Vltor Rifle Modstock, its lightweight, and allows for mounting on a carbine or A1 buffer tube.
I just recently switched out the carbine RE on my BCM 20" and put on an A1 stock and like how it balances out things though I have only been able to shoot once since I put it on.
That MOE rifle stock looks like a great idea though and would love to try one of them, one thing I dont like about the A1 is not having any sling QD sockets. Might have to try one of those on my next rifle once they come out.
Now that I see an actual picture of it...
http://www.guns.com/images/editor/20120805-190913.jpg
I don't really like the looks of it
Magic_Salad0892
08-12-12, 03:20
A5 + LMT SOPMOD.
I cannot recommend the B5 as I have personally not used one yet. However, I like that they come in Multicam from factory, even if that's not a color scheme I use on my gun.
Mine is unpainted black. Need to change that soon.
vicious_cb
08-12-12, 04:08
You would be crazy not to go with the A5. After all thats what the A5 was developed for in the first place, it just happens to work well with everything.
yeah i took the advice and ordered the Emod A5 Stock kit Just because of the reviews. I personally think the butt stock is ugly but its not about looks it about function.
vicious_cb
08-12-12, 15:14
yeah i took the advice and ordered the Emod A5 Stock kit Just because of the reviews. I personally think the butt stock is ugly but its not about looks it about function.
You dont need to use the vltor stocks with the A5. It will take any buttstock that uses a carbine RE, some stocks just might not be able to collapse all the way.
AlphaKoncepts
08-12-12, 15:28
Ever consider something like a magpul PRS?
midSCarolina
08-12-12, 15:36
The UBR is a great stock for a 20". It is both adjustable and extremely solid. However, it is very heavy. My personal recommendation would be to get the sopmod. I used to run a fixed stock and the LMT sopmod that I am using now is just as solid and it keeps the weight down significantly. If you don't want to go with the sopmod, the UBR is probably the best option IMO.
MOE rifle stock ..... if it ever comes out. :cool:
Magic_Salad0892
08-13-12, 16:55
MOE rifle stock ..... if it ever comes out. :cool:
Lol. You're a hoMOE too, now?
Lol. You're a hoMOE too, now?
No. I don't have any MOE stuff. But the MOE Rifle stock looks interesting. I might buy one to play with.
I never saw anything wrong with the A2, even when wearing a FLAK jacket, but I do have long arms, so that might be why...
But I admit I never went in harms way with that set up either, so if you are wearing body armor, you might feel different....
mallowpufft
08-14-12, 12:15
I have used the UBR and CTR stocks on my 20" precision rifle. The CTR is comfortable enough, light and cost less than the UBR. The UBR is much more solid, heavier, more expensive and is more comfortable to use. I do notice a slight weight difference between the two stocks, more so than the difference in balance. I stay with the UBR because it gives a better cheek weld and feels more solid.
A fancy stock isn't needed for a DMR style AR. Get what is comfortable, practical for your use and fits in your budget
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/AR%20Build/DSC_0196.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Liberty/DSC_0157.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Liberty/DSC_0034.jpg
What H/G are you using? I like the looks of it. And no, not the MOE one. I'm not that dumb...
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skullworks
08-14-12, 13:49
Magpul STR on a VLTOR A5 receiver extension. This is what mine looks like:
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3628/meoptaisms.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/meoptaisms.jpg/)
skullworks
08-14-12, 13:52
What H/G are you using? I like the looks of it. And no, not the MOE one. I'm not that dumb...
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Looks like a PRI Gen III Delta Carbon Fiber Rail (http://www.precisionreflex.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=186738) to me.
mallowpufft
08-15-12, 08:31
Thanks!
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I use this on my SPR and love it:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=41967/Product/AR-15-M16-EFX-A1-ENHANCED-FIXED-STOCK
Cowtown556
08-15-12, 10:15
I like A1s on 20" and 16"middys.
Looks like a PRI Gen III Delta Carbon Fiber Rail (http://www.precisionreflex.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=186738) to me.
That's the one. Removed the rail sections. I like how it fits my hand and the fact it stays cool. It's pricey though
being in a ban state all my new builds need to have fixed stocks anyway, and I am a fan of the A1 length. I like VLTOR A1 clubfoot stock myself
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