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gunlvr78
08-23-12, 00:10
I'm fairly new to AR's and need some advice on how to make mine lighter. I have a DPMS oracle that I recently put a utac drop in rail on. The rail weighs 12 oz, or so they said. Is there a lighter drop in rail that will have the same tight fit, or is there something else I can do? I would appreciate any help.

tbaker
08-23-12, 03:19
The best thing about this site is the wealth of knowledge already held within many of the threads and stickies. Search and reading is greatly encouraged here, and much can be learned. (IE the Orange 'Search' button up top of the website)

While your particular brand of rifle will not receive a ton of love here (reference: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376), that's not to say your rifle can't serve your purpose.

To follow that: What is the intended purpose of your rifle?
Other questions will include items such as round count currently through the rifle?
To address your main question/concern: What is the goal for "making it lighter?"

Pulling up the specs for your rifle, direct DPMS's website, http://www.dpmsinc.com/556-ORACLE_ep_135-1.html it would seem that your rifle comes in at 6.4lbs, minus any optics or irons, and a loaded magazine. That's already pretty light.

If you are just absolutely in love with this rifle, then there are some specific necessities to look for and easy fixes you can most likely do yourself. This thread, by a well-versed member of the site, is a great reference of what to look for. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=13532

That said, before you incur the cost of starting to change things up, reference this thread, http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=28658, the basic premise is get out and shoot the gun before you start changing up the configuration of the rifle.

Aside from reliability fixes/confirmations of items like proper staking on the gas key, castle nut, etc, depending on what it cost to bring the rifle up to "fighting speed", you may be best off in selling this particular rifle, and looking at starting with a high quality rifle, see G&R Tactical http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6720 or http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MID-750-LWC just to get an idea of what better quality you can get for just a couple hundred more, versus blowing that same amount on gear you may not even need for your rifle or your purpose. These are just a couple of examples to give you a better idea.

Lastly, your goal for this rifle may be just weekend shooting at the range, or killin' prairie dogs or just for show 'n' tell, in which case, it should serve you just fine. If it's going to be a weapon you take to training and plan to shoot a lot, it may be best to search/read the Sticky under AR General Discussion of the Knowledge Based Threads http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355 and evaluate your intended purpose and use for your rifle.

Either way, go shoot the rifle, and welcome to M4C.

polymorpheous
08-23-12, 05:53
The best thing about this site is the wealth of knowledge already held within many of the threads and stickies. Search and reading is greatly encouraged here, and much can be learned. (IE the Orange 'Search' button up top of the website)

While your particular brand of rifle will not receive a ton of love here (reference: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376), that's not to say your rifle can't serve your purpose.

To follow that: What is the intended purpose of your rifle?
Other questions will include items such as round count currently through the rifle?
To address your main question/concern: What is the goal for "making it lighter?"

Pulling up the specs for your rifle, direct DPMS's website, http://www.dpmsinc.com/556-ORACLE_ep_135-1.html it would seem that your rifle comes in at 6.4lbs, minus any optics or irons, and a loaded magazine. That's already pretty light.

If you are just absolutely in love with this rifle, then there are some specific necessities to look for and easy fixes you can most likely do yourself. This thread, by a well-versed member of the site, is a great reference of what to look for. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=13532

That said, before you incur the cost of starting to change things up, reference this thread, http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=28658, the basic premise is get out and shoot the gun before you start changing up the configuration of the rifle.

Aside from reliability fixes/confirmations of items like proper staking on the gas key, castle nut, etc, depending on what it cost to bring the rifle up to "fighting speed", you may be best off in selling this particular rifle, and looking at starting with a high quality rifle, see G&R Tactical http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6720 or http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MID-750-LWC just to get an idea of what better quality you can get for just a couple hundred more, versus blowing that same amount on gear you may not even need for your rifle or your purpose. These are just a couple of examples to give you a better idea.

Lastly, your goal for this rifle may be just weekend shooting at the range, or killin' prairie dogs or just for show 'n' tell, in which case, it should serve you just fine. If it's going to be a weapon you take to training and plan to shoot a lot, it may be best to search/read the Sticky under AR General Discussion of the Knowledge Based Threads http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355 and evaluate your intended purpose and use for your rifle.

Either way, go shoot the rifle, and welcome to M4C.

Excellent post.

gunlvr78
08-23-12, 11:21
lots of information, really helped!!! thanks