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Beat Trash
08-30-12, 09:02
Troy is finally shipping the Delta Battle Rails.

These are supposed to be free floating and require no modifications to the host weapon. No cutting of the Delta ring.

http://troyind.com/wp-content/uploads/Troy-BattleRail-Delta-1.jpg

Has anyone actually handled one of these yet?

I'm curious about how well they lock up on the gun, the size and the weight.

28003
08-31-12, 06:44
wondering the same thing....tagged

markm
08-31-12, 07:40
I'll be so glad when the tube fad is behind us, Boys!.. :rolleyes:

Littlelebowski
08-31-12, 08:03
I'll be so glad when the tube fad is behind us, Boys!.. :rolleyes:

The idea of the tube shape or the wave of new tube style handguards?

jaxman7
08-31-12, 09:29
Check out post #14919 in the pic thread. Might want to PM that guy.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=642&page=746

-Jax

samuse
08-31-12, 09:57
I'll be so glad when the tube fad is behind us, Boys!.. :rolleyes:


I gotta agree with you.

And the "bolt every p.o.s. in the Magpul catalog on a MOE handguard"...

Littlelebowski
08-31-12, 10:03
I guess I must be one of those faggy tube handguard fanboys but I find that the tubular handguard works well in in an aggressive stance, helping my get my support hand out there for better control of the weapon. I obviously don't know shit about shooting though and am following a fad. Real shooters don't use tubular handguards nor do they bolt on anything to Magpul handguards.


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/d7b4a69e.jpg


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/7f98161c.jpg

markm
08-31-12, 10:28
Lord...

Make this tube fad pass quickly and painlessly.

Amen. :D

http://www.livingthejourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/fader-praying-on-one-knee.jpg

jaxman7
08-31-12, 10:32
Lord...

Make this tube fad pass quickly and painlessly.

Amen. :D

http://www.livingthejourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/fader-praying-on-one-knee.jpg

Hilarious! Count me in (although a little late in coming out of the closet) on the homo handguard.

Still praying for the RDS fad to go away?! :D;)

-Jax

Littlelebowski
08-31-12, 10:35
Anything not made out of wood and steel is for faddish pussies. RDSs' are a hoax. LWRC employees eat babies. If you own a tubular handguard, you might as well have a rainbow sticker on your vehicle.

That should cover most of markm's incoherent rantings for now.

fallenromeo
08-31-12, 10:39
Anything not made out of wood and steel is for faddish pussies. RDSs' are a hoax. LWRC employees eat babies. If you own a tubular handguard, you might as well have a rainbow sticker on your vehicle.

That should cover most of markm's incoherent rantings for now.

...I have a tube handguard on my AR. Guess I need to find one of those refracted light stickers and learn where the closest glory hole is.
:cray:

NeoNeanderthal
08-31-12, 11:04
I must be gay as ****, cuz i love my vtac alpha.

samuse
08-31-12, 11:22
I guess I must be one of those faggy tube handguard fanboys but I find that the tubular handguard works well in in an aggressive stance, helping my get my support hand out there for better control of the weapon.

You're using a tube handguard in a way that makes sense.

I see a lot of tube handguards with shit bolted all over 'em with an AFG or VFG, usually with the shooter hanging on to the magwell anyway. What's the point there?

Littlelebowski
08-31-12, 11:29
You're using a tube handguard in a way that makes sense.

I see a lot of tube handguards with shit bolted all over 'em with an AFG or VFG, usually with the shooter hanging on to the magwell anyway. What's the point there?

Would it be better if they had said shit bolted onto a more conventional style handguard? Are we really nitpicking over the shape of a handguard here?

jaxman7
08-31-12, 11:34
I think this thread has hastily run its course.

-Jax

Striker
08-31-12, 11:49
I think this thread has hastily run its course.

-Jax

I disagree. It could definitely use a course correction, but I would still like to know what those who have used the Delta rail think of it.

jaxman7
08-31-12, 11:53
I disagree. It could definitely use a course correction, but I would still like to know what those who have used the Delta rail think of it.

Agreed. Worded better than myself.



-Jax

FChen17213
08-31-12, 12:16
Fad or improvement? Or maybe the original quad rails with rails all over were the Fad?......Only time will tell right? Why do we even care? As long as it works well for you, why does it matter?

The Delta Rail seems like a good device for people who can't modify their weapons by an armorer. Since we haven't gotten any real meaningful replies, my guess is no one's used one yet. Although not as low profile as the Alpha or TRX, the handling characteristics should be at least somewhat if not very similar.

Littlelebowski
08-31-12, 13:51
Purists sneering about aesthetics.

bobsolla
08-31-12, 14:24
Anything not made out of wood and steel is for faddish pussies. RDSs' are a hoax. LWRC employees eat babies. If you own a tubular handguard, you might as well have a rainbow sticker on your vehicle.

That should cover most of markm's incoherent rantings for now.

that`s hilarious!

Gewehr3
08-31-12, 14:44
I don't know which is worse the moron who started the anti-tube comments or the other f*ckn morons who responded to him. BTW take your homo bullshit to pm.

So do any ADULTS have info on the Troy rail?

DasBulk
08-31-12, 15:54
Whoa... Look out for this guy....

I'm kinda curious about Troy adding what looks like another lockup bolt to the barrel nut area and whether or not it adds structural integrity. Furthermore, if it does, will it find it's way onto the Alpha tube?

bobsolla
08-31-12, 16:12
Whoa... Look out for this guy....

I'm kinda curious about Troy adding what looks like another lockup bolt to the barrel nut area and whether or not it adds structural integrity. Furthermore, if it does, will it find it's way onto the Alpha tube?

not sure how to answer this:i already have one(alpha rail-new style) on another build.there are lock up wedges that secure to the barrel nut as you implied.it is very sturdy and completely free floats the barrel.as to structural integrity,i don`t know what it may do if anything.

justin_247
08-31-12, 17:37
Whoa... Look out for this guy....

I'm kinda curious about Troy adding what looks like another lockup bolt to the barrel nut area and whether or not it adds structural integrity. Furthermore, if it does, will it find it's way onto the Alpha tube?

No, you probably will not see it on the Alpha rails.

Why?

The Delta rail is a two-piece rail system, and you need those extra bolts to hold it together and maintain the zero on the top rail.

This is a problem you don't have to worry about on the Alpha rails, as they are one-piece.

DasBulk
08-31-12, 22:24
Ah. I see now.
I had it going together differently in my head. Thinking of it now, it wouldn't work like I had it figured without removing the FSB.

I see now its a clamshell/lateral seem tube.

Iraqgunz
08-31-12, 23:05
NEWSFLASH- if you don't like a particular handguard or rail then that's your problem. But, don't start shitting all over someone elses thread. Let's keep this on track, shall we?

ra2bach
09-01-12, 10:11
Check out post #14919 in the pic thread. Might want to PM that guy.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=642&page=746

-Jax

I'm sorry, there's pictures past 14901???

I never noticed

:D

theblackknight
09-01-12, 12:19
Bcm hates tubes as well.

13426

sent from mah gun,using my sights

jaxman7
09-01-12, 13:08
I'm sorry, there's pictures past 14901???

I never noticed

:D

Just blew Dr. Pepper out of my nose!

Good point! Junkie and Cameron have got me 'inspecting' those gorgeous AR's in the pic thread.

I need to either get some tattoos or spend some time in New Zealand because whatever I am doing....it ain't working! :cray::sarcastic:

-Jax

trackmagic
09-01-12, 20:39
I got a hand guard on my carbine, but I like the idea of the free float on a "tack driver" soon I want an ar like that so I am interested in this as well. Hope that did not sound too gay.

CoryCop25
09-01-12, 20:51
My friend is a Troy distributor. He does not have any yet. I am looking to build a light weight upper with a front sight post and the Delta looked promising except for the D-ring issue.

On another note, I have seen the Alpha, Bravo and Delta....
What happened to Charlie?

28003
09-08-12, 22:33
I'm digging it....just put it on:
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff210/28003/IMAG0456.jpg

crowkiller
10-29-12, 19:56
Anyone have any feedback yet? Anyone know the weight? How about the rotary clamping system seem solid?

28003
10-29-12, 20:56
Anyone have any feedback yet? Anyone know the weight? How about the rotary clamping system seem solid?

i love it. don't know the weight (i would bet its a tad heavier than a 13" alpha rail), but it definitely feels light. the clamping system is rock-solid.

cptx123
10-29-12, 23:06
I like mine, I only have had it out to the range once. Locks up tight and easy to install, though for some reason it makes me want to rest my left thumb on the fsb when I use a short vertical grip.

crowkiller
10-30-12, 12:37
Thanks guys! I emailed Troy and they said the weight of the Delta BattleRail is 10.91 oz.

fuzzynutkila
12-12-12, 14:46
I just ordered the Troy Charlie rail from Primary Arms and it will arrive on Friday. I have yet to see any real reviews or specs on this rail so I will be posting some info about it when I get it and another after I shoot with it. I was torn between the Charlie and Delta rail but I went with the Charlie because it was in stock. I know that this isn't the way to purchase things but honestly it was all I could do to feed my addiction to add accessories to my Colt LE6920. I have a cheap reflex sight (Sightmark) on it that has 4 reticles and so far has held up very well. I am very excited about getng this rail system for its looks and also functionality. I was also looking at the Samson EVO extended system but I didn't want to have to take off thr bayonet lug which I was told by Samson that I would have to do. I have no tools and usually just take my weapons to a local gunsmith who only charges $30 for 1/2 hour. I will probably do the same for this even though it is pretty straightforward. All I need to have done is remove the swivel and attach to the existing barrel nut. Anyways, I will post after I receive it and let you know whatits like. I can't believe I can't fin any reviews other than the Troy video that doesn't tell much.

sva01
12-21-12, 12:39
Any more input on the Troy Delta rail? I'm looking at FSB cutout rails and think it's between the Troy Delta and the Centurion C4.

fuzzynutkila
12-21-12, 13:05
I had it put on 3 days ago and I love it! It looks great but I haven't shot it yet. The rail feels incredibly solid as in it does not even budge which I and everyone else was worried about. I had a local gun shop put it on because I could t take off the front swivel sling. I figured I would just have them put it on while they were at it. They charged me $45 which seemed more than reasonable. I liked knowing it was installed by a pro and not by someone who knows little about modifications, like myself! The only thing that had me thinking about getting the Delta was the weight of it. It doesn't say anywhere that I could find how much it weighs. I called Troy and they said the Charlie was 24oz vs 13oz for the Delta. It is a noticeable difference but unless you plan on walking around with it for long periods of time, like from your house to wherever the meeting place would be in the event of zombie apocalypse, you should be good. I will follow up after I take it to the range but it looks and feels incredible. I would post a pic but I don't know how. It keeps asking for a url and I have it on my phone in the picture album. Any suggestions?

Coperator
12-21-12, 23:32
Has anyone shot/ran a course with this ? I am a fan and would like any feedback before I purchase.

wwhateley
12-22-12, 23:15
Anything not made out of wood and steel is for faddish pussies. RDSs' are a hoax. LWRC employees eat babies. If you own a tubular handguard, you might as well have a rainbow sticker on your vehicle.

[snippage]

I'm looking for a rainbow sticker for my car. Living in Kalifornia, it's good camoflage. :sarcastic:

jb1911
12-23-12, 09:36
I want to be gay in the worst way, but I can't find one of these in stock in black. 12" and black.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/ssg2series_sb/ssg2_12in_22.gif

elsilrac1
12-23-12, 10:27
I think I would like to pull the trigger on a Delta if they come in less than 11oz...That would be a great mod.

sva01
12-23-12, 10:57
I think I would like to pull the trigger on a Delta if they come in less than 11oz...That would be a great mod.

See earlier post from crowkiller


Thanks guys! I emailed Troy and they said the weight of the Delta BattleRail is 10.91 oz.

wwhateley
02-14-13, 19:38
Dupicate.

kcara
02-14-13, 20:55
Anything not made out of wood and steel is for faddish pussies. RDSs' are a hoax. LWRC employees eat babies. If you own a tubular handguard, you might as well have a rainbow sticker on your vehicle.

That should cover most of markm's incoherent rantings for now.
You forgot to add mako e lander mags. Mark gets very upset about them. :sarcastic:

sdelam
02-15-13, 12:01
Just installed a Delta rail on my 6920. Havn't got to shoot it yet but it seems very solid. $200 even from primary arms.

opmike
02-15-13, 21:11
Just installed a Delta rail on my 6920. Havn't got to shoot it yet but it seems very solid. $200 even from primary arms.

Do you have a photo of it installed?

sdelam
02-15-13, 22:55
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130215_234339.jpg

sdelam
02-16-13, 06:58
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130215_234412.jpg

sdelam
02-16-13, 13:19
Figured I'd add some install pic's.

Inside lower parts is kind of a push and twist to get behind the barrel nut[/IMG]
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130216_133332.jpg

This shows the clamps
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130216_133707.jpg

Shows how the top half fits in the bottom
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130216_133723.jpg

Now what to do with this..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m237/sdelam1/20130216_134433.jpg

Beat Trash
02-16-13, 13:22
Is there any play or movement once installed?

masakari
02-16-13, 13:24
I got mine in about a week ago. The deltarail is AWESOME. Lightweight, easy to install, streamlined. Seriously, get this rail!
Ill post pics when i can get some. Too much snow outside.

sdelam
02-16-13, 13:26
None, seems very solid.

Kilo 1-1
02-16-13, 14:09
I've been using one for about 4 months now.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1383/cimg3231h.jpg

Pretty happy with it overall, but the front end where the FSB is tends to get pretty hot. The Delta rail doesn't provide much heat protection. Other than that, love this thing.

fyrediver
03-29-13, 19:20
I just got my Delta rail this past week. Installed VERY easily and quickly. Mounted my TLR-1 in front of the front sight just like Kilo's pic. The only thing I need to add is a front sling mount and then keep it slick. I don't need the quad rail cheese grater or any other bolt on accessories.

There's no movement that I can tell, but I haven't taken it shooting yet and since I don't have the sling installed can't tell how it'll impact my accuracy when using the sling (yes I'm a old school sling shooter). I've got an Appleseed Known Distance shoot next month so will know more about that at 400 meters.

enamoro
04-13-13, 18:19
Thanks to sdelam and Kilo for their photos/comments and the comments from other Delta rail owners. I'll be picking one of these up soon, now.

CaTalystX
04-13-13, 19:05
I think the tube is a natural evolution of the railed handguard. Most guys buy curved rail protectors that effectively turn their railed handguards into a tube.

The fact is, you only want rails where something is attached, because they are uncomfortable to hold on to, so these new modular tubes are great. Put rails where you need them, save the weight, and have a more comfortable hand guard.

I would challenge anybody to point out something that a full railed hand guard can do that a tube with removable rails cant.

fatboyR6
04-13-13, 23:40
I'd love to see the middy version of this rail on a 14.5" pinned upper. wonder how much barrel, if any will stick out the front.

Sentaruu
04-14-13, 06:48
nothin wrong w/ tube handguards baby, diversity!

masakari
04-14-13, 10:33
Here's pics of mine before I sold it :-( :
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/madcatjoe/IMG_20130224_161040_zps2f404995.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/madcatjoe/media/IMG_20130224_161040_zps2f404995.jpg.html)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/madcatjoe/IMG_20130224_161030_zps0f39b638.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/madcatjoe/media/IMG_20130224_161030_zps0f39b638.jpg.html)
And here is how she was sold:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/madcatjoe/IMG_20130401_163227_232_zpsa5b7dea3.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/madcatjoe/media/IMG_20130401_163227_232_zpsa5b7dea3.jpg.html)
Definitely a great rail. The next carbine length rail that I buy will be this one again for sure.

rero360
04-14-13, 17:22
I picked one up the other week, as standard Troy quality, flawless. I haven't installed it yet as I'm off to another base conducting some training for the upcoming deployment and my carbine was sent off to maits to get a few little things fixed, bolt catch spring was weak and likely broken, safety selector switch reall tight and gritty, and I asked for them to remove the front sling mount. Hopefully the carbine is all ready for me when I get back in about a week, plan on installing the rail along with my PEQ 15, and weapon light if they've come in yet. I'll take some pics and post them up once I get a chance.

Fuzzy-Reticle
04-21-13, 10:38
I put a Delta Rail on my Colt 6920. So far I like it. Locks up very tight and solid. Ran a few rounds through it and so far so good. It adds a good balance to the rifle and is not heavy. I am undecided on whether or not I prefer it over the VLTOR CASV-EL. I do like the fact that I can use an MBUS with it. The CASV is not compatible with the MBUS. I also like that I can use my iron sights with this and my Eotech. The CASV makes the optic sit so high as to make the irons unusable without removing the opic.
I just need to get use to the round shape.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/fuzzyreticle/Colt/20130424_132927_zpsdcda27f8.jpg (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/fuzzyreticle/media/Colt/20130424_132927_zpsdcda27f8.jpg.html)

tom frost
04-27-13, 20:40
I picked one up the other week, as standard Troy quality, flawless. I haven't installed it yet as I'm off to another base conducting some training for the upcoming deployment and my carbine was sent off to maits to get a few little things fixed, bolt catch spring was weak and likely broken, safety selector switch reall tight and gritty, and I asked for them to remove the front sling mount. Hopefully the carbine is all ready for me when I get back in about a week, plan on installing the rail along with my PEQ 15, and weapon light if they've come in yet. I'll take some pics and post them up once I get a chance.

Any updates on the rail? Or does anyone else have firsthand experience that they would like to share?

rero360
04-27-13, 21:05
No update yet, I'm back from that particular training but I fall under 1st Army at the moment and they are being super anal about weapon mods, my LTC had swapped his pistol grip, they didn't know it was his rifle, and wanted to know who's it was so they could give the offending soldier an Article 15.

Thus, I haven't installed the rail yet and looks like I won't until we get out form under 1st Army's command (retarded I know) I tried to put it on in the barracks just to see how it looked and felt but I couldn't get it installed without taking off the front sling swivel and have kept that on to keep 1st Army from jumping up my ass on that.

Total FUBAR

We shall see how they react when we start training in full kit and I show up in my PIG instead of the KDH abomination or the IOTV they issued to me.

Tutone
04-27-13, 21:55
Any updates on the rail? Or does anyone else have firsthand experience that they would like to share?

I too am interested.

28003
04-28-13, 07:30
Any updates on the rail? Or does anyone else have firsthand experience that they would like to share?
i've had one on for almost a year. what do you want to know?

tom frost
04-28-13, 08:25
i've had one on for almost a year. what do you want to know?

Hi. In a nutshell, I'm wondering if you had it to do over again, would you choose the Troy Delta again.

Has the mount been solid and reliable?

And if so, does that include sling use (I mean, is the mount solid enough to allow tension to be applied to an attached sling without compromising the hand guard's stability).

ETA: Also, did you see any notable improvements in accuracy?

themonk
04-28-13, 11:26
Do you know by any chance how much it weights?

Nightvisionary
04-28-13, 12:37
I'll be so glad when the tube fad is behind us, Boys!.. :rolleyes:

I agree, A1 style hand guards for the win.

tom frost
04-28-13, 13:11
I agree, A1 style hand guards for the win.

On that note, I actually think that the PRI Gen III Delta free float hanguards are pretty sweet. If I wasn't keeping my fsb, that would be a serious contender. It has a triangular profile.

But what is it exactly that offends about "tubes" ? And is this in reference to any handguard that isn't a quad rail?

Nightvisionary
04-28-13, 15:14
On that note, I actually think that the PRI Gen III Delta free float hanguards are pretty sweet. If I wasn't keeping my fsb, that would be a serious contender. It has a triangular profile.

But what is it exactly that offends about "tubes" ? And is this in reference to any handguard that isn't a quad rail?

I really like my Rainier Evolution and MI Gen 2 SS free float tube. I was just jumping on MarkM's bandwagon:D.

tom frost
04-28-13, 15:29
I really like my Rainier Evolution and MI Gen 2 SS free float tube. I was just jumping on MarkM's bandwagon:D.

LOL

I see. :)

28003
04-29-13, 08:09
Hi. In a nutshell, I'm wondering if you had it to do over again, would you choose the Troy Delta again.
all things considered, yeah I would. honestly, my choice was between this rail and the Centurion cut-out rail. i went with the delta because (a) it was cheaper, (b) i didn't need the extra rail space, and (c) i didn't have to cut off the delta-ring and spring

Has the mount been solid and reliable?
yes, as far as i can tell, its the same mounting system as the alpha. after i installed it, i was twisting and torquing on it and i thought it was moving, but it was actually slack in the upper/lower mating, so this thing is GTG. if you like and trust the alpha line of rails, you can trust the delta

And if so, does that include sling use (I mean, is the mount solid enough to allow tension to be applied to an attached sling without compromising the hand guard's stability).
i don't know for certain, but there is a QD sling mount on the front 1/3 of the rail, so i would assume so. if i can ever remember to throw a QD sling attachment in my cart when i order parts, i'll let you know for certain. but i have faith it will.

ETA: Also, did you see any notable improvements in accuracy?
over a non-FF rail, yes. i had the Magpul MOE handguards on there before and with the troy rail, my groups tightened up. now, i am by no means a great shot, so take this with a grain of salt. but i was able to hit a 6" steel circle at 421 yards in 30 shots with irons (much the chagrin of my buddy who bet me i couldn't) :D but that could've been more "blind luck" than me or the FF rail.

here's my summary of the delta rail. if you don't want to (or can't) cut your fsp/delta-ring or install a low-pro, this rail is GTG.

28003
04-29-13, 08:10
Do you know by any chance how much it weights?

no idea, but i would guess its close to the alpha or bravo weights. if i had to guess i would say ~13-14oz

tom frost
04-29-13, 08:28
28003,

That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much for taking the time, I appreciate it !!!!

Cheers!

Beat Trash
04-29-13, 13:11
Do you know by any chance how much it weights?

I sent an email asking this very question to Troy. Received an answer this morning. The Delta Battlerail weighs 10.91 ounces.

Joe Mamma
05-20-13, 20:46
Could someone tell me which has a stronger mounting system, the Troy Delta BattleRail or the Daniel Defense Omega Rail?

Thanks.

Joe Mamma

TYPEII
05-22-13, 12:54
I got the Troy/VTAC Delta Rail in FDE on my LE6920, already have a Troy Defense Carbine that comes with the Alpha rail so I wanted something different... Post a pict when I get home.

http://troyind.com/%20/partners/viking-tactics/troyvtac-delta-rail-carbine

Berserkr556
05-22-13, 18:36
Could someone tell me which has a stronger mounting system, the Troy Delta BattleRail or the Daniel Defense Omega Rail?

Thanks.

Joe Mamma

I haven't owned the Troy Delta but looking at the way it mounts it sure looks alot stronger than the Omega Rail. I have owned a Daniel Defense Omega Rail. I had an Omega on one of my BCM BFH 16" mid-length carbines. The Omega Rail has four small hex head screws which free float the rail once you tighten them down. I used loctite on them as the instructions say but a few weeks after installing the rail it came loose while running it hard. I applied more loctite and tightened the screws again but it came loose again running it hard and i took it off.

I recently bought another BCM BFH 16" and wanted to put a Troy Delta on it but they were out of stock so i'll use a MOE hand guard for now. If the Troy isn't available soon then i'll buy a Centurion C4.

Fuzzy-Reticle
05-22-13, 20:08
Could someone tell me which has a stronger mounting system, the Troy Delta BattleRail or the Daniel Defense Omega Rail?

Thanks.

Joe Mamma


I have both the Troy Delta and a DD Omega. Both mount around and to the barrel nut.
The Omega is held in place by 4 set screws that press against the face of the barrel nut and by the upper and lower halves of the handguard. It is solid enough for rough use IMHO and I have never had one work loose.
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?65-Daniel-Defense-OMEGA-Rail-install-guide-and-pictorial-review


The Troy uses two plates that rest on top of the barrel with threaded holes in them that wedge themselves under the barrel nut and barrel. You position them so that the holes are roughly the 2 - 4 and 8 -10 o'clock positions. The handguard halves goes over the barrel nut and screws go through the handguard halves into these plates. The Troy contacts more surface area than the Omega but it actually comes in contact with the barrel. Granted it is immediately infront of the barrel nut and should not impart much in the way of flex into the barrel. The Omega only comes into contact with the barrel nut.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=1550834

I think the Troy is a more sturdy way to do this but both are a compromise for not having to cut the Delta Ring and spring off your rifle.

I am having a difficult time getting use to it the longer I have the Troy. The tubular shape just is not for me. I am going to sell it to fund a CASV which I have used in the past and really like.

LeftThumb
06-12-13, 01:26
I have the DD Omega on a BCM and the Troy Delta Rail on an LMT. My friend has a Delta Rail on a Spikes.

From our experience of the 3 rails, the DD Omega is much more rigid mounting than the Troy Delta. If you hold onto the barrel and try to flex the rail it's fairly easy for it touch the bayonet lug on either of the Troy's. The DD barely moves at all. I actually spoke to Troy about this and they said the Delta rail is not as rigid mounting as the Alpha. I have an Alpha and I'd have to agree (user installed). We went over the mounting with Troy to make sure we weren't screwing it up and it seems correct. This is sample size of 3 so ymmv.

KiloSierra
06-15-13, 09:49
In your experience was the amount of flex enough to effect the zero in the course of normal use?

sva01
06-15-13, 11:15
In your experience was the amount of flex enough to effect the zero in the course of normal use?

I shot a Vickers course this week, with this rail on my 6920, and I don't feel that it affected my zero at all. My technique was the limiting factor, not the rail.
I only see the flex being an issue if you have the exposed barrel resting on something independent of the rail.
While I'm quite new to all of this, I was very pleased with it.

LeftThumb
06-15-13, 13:03
We haven't noticed any zero change but we haven't done any precision work with it either.

rero360
06-17-13, 19:32
Alright, got the rail installed (after 1st Army finished T.I. it) haven't shot with it yet, won't until I get in country in a few weeks, but here is a pic of the gun pretty much all set up. sorry about the kind of dark, blurry cell phone pic.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/rero360/toys/20130617_114320_zps0d3b6904.jpeg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/rero360/media/toys/20130617_114320_zps0d3b6904.jpeg.html)

Tokarev
07-01-15, 11:58
Bumping this old thread to ask about shorter barrels and this type of rail. How short can a fellow go and still make proper use of a 51T flash hider and AAC suppressor?

Rayrevolver
07-01-15, 12:36
Dont have any AAC FHs anymore but do have a delta mid length on a 16" Noveske and can take measurements tonight.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy117/rayrevolver/Public/Delta%20Mid_zpseqn750dt.jpg

Not much left with the mid, the carbine gas probably has much more room to shorten the barrel.

themonk
07-01-15, 14:16
Bumping this old thread to ask about shorter barrels and this type of rail. How short can a fellow go and still make proper use of a 51T flash hider and AAC suppressor?

You need .75 inches clearance.

Tokarev
07-01-15, 15:08
On a carbine length gas system with a GI front sight base, how short can I cut the barrel and still use the 51T? Is a 12.5" barrel too short?

Rayrevolver
07-01-15, 15:46
This is from the net, 14.5 carbine Delta. My money says 12.5 is too short. Just chop the front off!

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t677/balloo933/DSC01374_zpsf35a8b19.jpg

28003
07-01-15, 19:57
Go with Centurion or MI......stay away from Troy and go with more 2A friendly companies. I have the delta rail and regret buying it ever since.