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Tzoid
02-09-08, 11:55
I'm building a new 20" AR and need suggestions for the optics.

This is not a Match Rifle but I want a bit more magnification then what I have on my 16" AR. ( Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20mm MR/T M2 WITH LaRue LT 104-30 MOUNT)

I have looked at some possible scopes like the Super Sniper SS10X42M and the TR-22R Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm ( NOT SURE I LIKE THE RED TRIANGLE)

The IOR 2.5-10x42 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope but what reticle? Illuminated MP-8 or First Focal Plane Reticle


I need help...I'm not sure if 10X is the way to go.

The Ranges I get to shoot at are typically out to 300 yards.

Any help is appreciated.

( I'm willing to spend up to 1000.00 )

Tzoid
02-10-08, 08:08
Damn...

No help here.. :(

Robb Jensen
02-10-08, 08:20
Tim,
I'd go with a Leupold 3.5-10x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm, I see these sell online for $875.

Tzoid
02-10-08, 08:44
Rob.

I was leaning toward sticking with Leupold and I have a mount question. I have basically the same scope as your 3 gun set up on my 16" gun with the LT 104-30 MOUNT and have been struggling with eye relief / scope mount location on the rail. Should I get the Extended eye relief mount when I get the scope for my new 20" gun and switch the mounts ?

Here is an older pic. The scope was too far forward so I moved it back and removed the rear BUIS.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/tzoid08/IMG_0822.jpg

Robb Jensen
02-10-08, 09:45
On my own guns with Leupolds I prefer the extended versions of the LaRue and ADM mounts.

Federale
02-10-08, 10:19
I've used Leupolds on both of my SPR rifles.

18 in. barrel, MK12 Mod 0 SPR, Leupold 2.5-8x36 MR/T
(Sorry, no picture at the moment)

18 in. barrel, MK12 Mod 1"ish" SPR, Leupold 3.5-10x40 LR/T
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/AR15/AR%20Gallery/IMG_0977.jpg

They're both excellent scopes for the ranges that you're talking about. Then again, so's the one you already have. But I understand the desire for a little more magnification.;)

The Super Sniper is a decent scope for a good price (I have one), but I think you'll be happier spending a little more on a Leupold. Anyway, variable power is the way to go.

I think I've already told you about the discount..... If you can figure out how to get it, you're well under your preferred price range.

As for eye relief,
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/AR15/LMT%20MRP/IMG_0889.jpg
I guess I don't have the issue you have. This is the same scope in a standard Larue mount on a LMT MRP upper.

(I need new pictures, these rifles aren't set up this way anymore. :))

Tzoid
02-10-08, 10:53
That's Rob

I will be in to see you as soon as possible.

Federale

I was able to get the discount when I got my 1.5 -5x20 but they were clear that it was a one time thing and that the discount is ONLY for Federal LEO.

I'm going to have to work hard to get anywhere near that discount. If anyone has a suggestion I'm all ears.

Again Thanks for the help.

Now to find the right price on a Leupold 3.5-10x40 Mark 4 LR/T :D

Federale
02-10-08, 11:05
Now to find the right price on a Leupold 3.5-10x40 Mark 4 LR/T :D

You should still be well under $1000 for any of these Leupolds. Good luck!

Tzoid
02-10-08, 11:16
I know but after the LEO discount on the last one I have to try to get as close as possible. Or I won't sleep right leaving money on the table. :rolleyes:

thmpr
02-10-08, 11:17
3.5X10 magnification would be the way to go.

Lympago
02-10-08, 12:34
I'm building a new 20" AR and need suggestions for the optics.

This is not a Match Rifle but I want a bit more magnification then what I have on my 16" AR. ( Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20mm MR/T M2 WITH LaRue LT 104-30 MOUNT)

I have looked at some possible scopes like the Super Sniper SS10X42M and the TR-22R Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm ( NOT SURE I LIKE THE RED TRIANGLE)
The IOR 2.5-10x42 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope but what reticle? Illuminated MP-8 or First Focal Plane Reticle


I need help...I'm not sure if 10X is the way to go.

The Ranges I get to shoot at are typically out to 300 yards.

Any help is appreciated.

( I'm willing to spend up to 1000.00 )

Than you might consider Trijicon's new Accupoint 2.5-10x56 with the standard duplex and amber dot as one of your options than.

Only you'll know what you like best though in reticle, power, build quality, and price.

http://trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=634&back_row=0&categoryID=5

Tzoid
02-10-08, 21:15
I have narrowed it down to a few choices.

Any words of wisdom that may sway me is appreciated.


1. Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tactical M1 Scope 30mm Tube 4.5-14x 50mm Side Focus Illuminated Tactical Milling Reticle Matte

2. Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tactical M1 Scope 30mm Tube 4.5-14x 50mm Side Focus Tactical Milling Reticle Matte

3. Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tactical M1 Scope 30mm Tube 3.5-10x 40mm Side Focus Illuminated Tactical Milling Reticle Matte

4. Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tactical M1 Scope 30mm Tube 3.5-10x 40mm Side Focus Tactical Milling Reticle Matte

Federale
02-11-08, 06:56
Your first two choices are a lot of scope for 300 yards. They'll work, but the second two will too. For reference, I use the 4.5-14x50mm set up on my bolt rifle. The most magnification I have on an AR is 10x.

You're looking at choice #3 on the AR in the picture.

I'd spring for the illuminated reticle only if you plan on doing any low light shooting. I have them, but I do low light shooting.

Tzoid
02-11-08, 23:53
I went with.....................

1. Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tactical M1 Scope 30mm Tube 4.5-14x 50mm Side Focus Illuminated Tactical Milling Reticle Matte

I will post photos when I get it set up..

any ring or mount suggestions?