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bullittmcqueen
10-19-12, 15:25
I recently began gathering parts to build a mid-length upper using a modular free-float rail and retaining the standard A2 front sight post inside a cutout. I was primarily interested in an extended rail with the possibility of mounting a handstop underneath the FSP and a light at 10' next to the FSP with the gas block covered. After several weeks of searching repeatedly, the answer I kept coming back to was that there were very few options for this particular build type, and not many documented cases out there to look at for comparison. Numerous traditional quad rails fit this description, Daniel Defense, Centurion and the like. But I've had those and done that and was ready to try something lighter. Further, I have never found the necessity for all that rail space. It's useless weight for my rifle's operation.

I settled on the Samson Evolution EX 9" for this mid-length upper build. The other available rail I found was the JP modular rail using the extension, but that is a 2 piece system and the extension protrudes out in front the FSP, again, something I do not need and added weight. The Samson Evolution fit my needs exactly so I chose the EX 9. FWIW, Samson offers an extension for the Evolution as well.

This not a new rail by any means. There is another thread here documenting an installation back in 2010:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=68825&highlight=samson+evolution

which is very in-depth and covers most of the specs of the rail. I was unable to find another user who had installed an Evolution EX on an upper and retained the FSP. I contacted Samson through email to ask if this was possible, and received no reply. I was able to find a post from Scott Samson on TOS stating that it was possible to achieve what I was proposing. So I went ahead and ordered the rail from Samson.

The upper used was a BCM BFH 16” standard profile mid-length gas system. This upper comes with a triangular end-cap that would obviously not fit the circular tube and would have to be removed. As well, the FSP would have to be removed and the bayonet lug ground off in order to achieve clearance inside the rail and preserve the free-floating characteristics of the rail. After removal of the flash hider, FSP, gas tube, and end-cap, I ground down the bayonet lug and retaining ears that housed the front sling loop. I used an electric grinding wheel very slowly and meticulously. After I was happy with the profile, I then refinished the exposed metal with Brownell’s AlumaHyde-II. Although the recommended set-up time for AlumaHyde is 1 week, I let it set overnight and then commenced installation, as I would not be touching or rubbing the painted areas and they would have plenty of time to dry underneath the rail when I was done.
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I then removed the Delta ring in the standard fashion. The stock barrel nut is retained so I re-installed it onto the barrel/receiver after removing the Delta ring. Then the Evolution Rail was installed using the supplied 2-piece thermal bushing and hex screws to tighten the rail onto the thermal bushing. Samson sends easy-to-read installation instructions with the rail, but honestly after watching their installation video on YouTube, installation was straight forward. After placing the 2 pieces of the thermal bushing onto the barrel nut, the Evolution rail slides over the barrel and locks into position using grooves inside the rail that interlock with the bushing. I did have to re-torque my barrel nut to ensure proper alignment of the receiver rail and the top rail of the Samson, as initially they were slightly off-center. When I was happy with the alignment, I used a long riser over the junction of the top rails to ensure continuous alignment before tightening the 2 hex screws in the bottom of the rail to secure it into position.

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After the rail was in position, I only needed to re-install my FSP and gas tube. The Evo rail has two cutouts on the bottom of the rail which are located adjacent to the positions of the gas block taper pins. These cutouts would allow manipulation of taper pins for gas blocks or gas piston assemblies, etc. After pinning the gas tube back into the FSP assembly, I realized my dilemma. With the rail torqued onto the upper receiver, I had little to no chance of lining up the gas tube into the upper receiver while re-installing the FSP. I really did not want to take the rail back off, so I improvised using a wire coat-hanger that was straightened out and followed the path I wanted the gas tube to take. The tip of the coat hanger was advanced from the upper receiver, through the gas tube hole/barrel nut, and down toward the muzzle. I then slipped the gas tube over the coat hanger and commenced re-installing the FSP on the barrel. It worked perfectly, as I advanced the gas tube, it pushed the hanger out the receiver and went straight into the correct position, while causing no damage to the receiver or gas tube. I then positioned the FSP in its original location and re-installed the taper pins. After replacing the flash hider, I was done.
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bullittmcqueen
10-19-12, 15:27
Impressions:

-I was first struck with how light and thin the rail feels. I was converting from a Daniel Defense Omega X rail, which was noticeably thicker and wider feeling. The weight of the Evolution EX is listed as 9 ounces, so that is a 3 ounce improvement from the front end of the rifle. The stock barrel nut weight 2 ounces, but that is negligible since the DD rail requires its own barrel nut as well and it’s likely close to the same weight. The size of this tube fits my hands so much better than the DD quad rail. I completely agree with many of the sentiments expressed by Magsz in his post linked above. With installation of this rail and exchanging my Aimpoint M2 for an H-1 Micro, I have taken the weight of the rifle from 7.6 pounds to 6.5 pounds (approximate).

-The aluminum is sturdy, strong, and has no noticeable imperfections. There is little to no flex in the tube when I try to make the tube contact the FSP, and I am confident it will remain truly free floating regardless of shooting position. Really, this rail is extremely THIN and it has no flex. Impressive. All the edges are smooth and the top rail section is nice and rounded so that it is comfortable to the hand and would have no need for rail covers. The anti-rotation tabs on either side of the upper receiver make rail movement a non-factor. This rail is secure and steady.

-I’ve read about concerns with shotgunning the upper and having the hex screws portion of the rail contact or damage the lower receiver. I did not note this to be a problem when shotgunning open the upper and lower. I seldom if ever do this to an AR, I usually completely separate the upper and lower to do any internal work, so I don’t perceive this as being a problem.

-The rail sections included with the kit are a bit on the heavy side, as they are aluminum and attach to the rail with two hex screws and a back plate. It comes with two short 4-rail sections and a longer 8-rail section. I can’t envision ever using the 8 rail section, as it is huge. I did attach one of the shorter sections on the bottom of rail to put my hand-stop on. I am using a Gear Sector hand-stop, which is far and away my favorite hand-stop. Unfortunately, this attachment method to the rounded tube makes the edges of the hand-stop sharp and slightly uncomfortable. This is not enough of a bother for me to stop using it, but at some point in the future I may be moving toward a rounded hand-stop that attaches directly to the rail and is more low-profile. For light mounting, I had previously been using a VTAC light rail mount, however with the modular design of this rail, I’ll likely look into getting a Haley Strategic dropwing mount. It will be lighter and more streamlined.

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Overall, I am more than impressed by this rail from an ease of install, feel, and cost standpoint. This may be a “niche” build, as I am sure there aren’t a ton of people out there who want to build what I did, but I know a few for sure who like to retain the FSP and have enough rail out there to get an extended grip on the rail. For my needs, this was the perfect rail and I can only hope that companies like Daniel Defense or Centurion will offer this sort of setup in the future.
Extended time at the range will take place next weekend. I am interested to see how hot the rail gets as this is one of the downsides I have read about, however I’ve asked Jesse T of the Stag Arms team his thoughts on this and he said it has never been a problem during 3-gun comps.

For a full video of the installation and modification to the gun, click
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmzxq67GPoI