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Frens

10-29-12, 12:24

here in Italy it's not legal to own a MG but it's OK to permanently convert one to semiauto :D

an Importer will have some M16A1 available soon in brand new conditions and I'm looking for more info about them.
the only pics I have comes from the Importer's website but I'm going to visit him ASAP

- is this a mod.613? the only 613 I saw a few years ago was clearly marked "mod.613" above the caliber...

- how old are these based on the SN range?

- where do they come from? Police Dept? South America? Asia?

- what markings/details should I look for to be sure all parts are factory (bolt, barrel, receiver, etc)?

http://s12.postimage.org/hjc4zkhul/M16_1.jpg
http://s12.postimage.org/lgzeoz4nx/M16_2.jpg
http://s12.postimage.org/6z27gzdct/M16_3.jpg
http://s12.postimage.org/nbc96prod/M16_4.jpg

TIA
Frens

Col_Crocs

10-29-12, 16:32

Wow... It pains me to think that M16's getting neutered. Congrats on the Colt though. Do you get to keep the FCG? How is the conversion done?

Frens

10-30-12, 02:03

a couple of years ago the same company imported some abused 613 from Malaysia...
the rear of the BCG was milled off, FCG was not replaced but modified: rear of the hammer was cut off, auto sear replaced by a permanent block, a roll pin added near the pistol grip to prevent the selector from moving in the auto position.
they also added a shit load of ugly markings and a new SN :rolleyes:
you can see some pics HERE (http://www.fmj.it/schede/USA/ar15nj.htm)

I really hope they will make a cleaner job with these M16s because of the like NIB conditions. that's why I want to visit the importer once they're available.

Wow... It pains me to think that M16's getting neutered.
then it's better if I dont tell you about those neutered Colt mod.01 :cray:

O3SKILL

01-20-13, 20:11

Damn shame. That is a fine looking Rifle.

Frens

01-21-13, 10:16

the imported recently released some new pics :D
seems like they're doing a clean job so I placed an order for one :dirol:
let's the wait begin :(

http://s9.postimage.org/kixahbw6n/M16a.jpg

http://s9.postimage.org/6rxesuwmn/M16b.jpg

http://s9.postimage.org/ely0e94fj/M16c.jpg

http://s9.postimage.org/778olvijz/M16d.jpg

http://s9.postimage.org/fqs2jmqwf/M16e.jpg

RMiller

01-21-13, 10:27

That some sort of round limiter in that mag I see?

Frens

01-21-13, 11:39

yep, we cant use hi capacity assault clips :rolleyes:

JoshNC

01-22-13, 01:15

Wow, those are pristine. What is the cost if you don't mind my asking?

Frens

01-22-13, 01:29

Wow, those are pristine. What is the cost if you don't mind my asking?

MSRP is 1800ish Euro

to give you an idea of AR prices here: a Norinco M4 is under 900E, Bushy/Oly about 2100E, POF and HK MR223 about 2900E.
I've paid my Colt MT 2200euro in 2008.

I agree, it's a shame for such a nice weapon to be converted but AFAIK Italy is the only country that allows this kind of conversion, we cant assemble our guns ence they cant be sold as a kit... it's better than a total destruction isn't it? :happy:

halfmoonclip

01-22-13, 22:16

Don't know if they are importable or available, but NoDakSpud makes semi-auto lowers of correct config for older ARs.
If using one of their lowers simplifies your problem, then it is worth thinking about and investigating. One of their lowers made it possible for me to build an A1 clone.
Wow, what a minty specimen!
Enjoy your rifle.
Moon

MistWolf

01-22-13, 23:52

When the FALs were brought into the US, it was required the upper receiver was cut to de-mil it and the rest of the parts sold as kits. Commercial made receivers are used to bring these rifles back to life.

The same happened to select fire AR rifles. The lowers were de-milled and the parts sold as kits to be rebuilt on semi-auto only lowers. The Italian legal conversion described is against the law in the U.S.

It would be cool to have been able to keep the select fire of these rifles, but semi-auto works very well and gives them a new lease on life. Better they be converted to semi-auto than scrapped.

Cool rifles

JoshNC

01-23-13, 00:58

Frens

01-23-13, 01:45

That is very interesting and 1800E is surely not bad comparatively. A random question for you - is it possible to become a gun dealer in Italy as an individual, and if so does this allow you to own fully automatic firearms? Are there any civilians who own (and shoot) functioning fully automatic firearms?

as an individual I can become a gun dealer but I wont have access to auto weapons like in the US just because I'm a dealer.
some Importers can temporary own banned items like silencers if they are going to the mil/leo/govt agencies.

auto weapons were legal to own, then the govt changed the law due to terrorism (brigate rosse) and mafia in 1975.
those with a auto weapon license could keep them but cant sell them.