View Full Version : For real?? UN observers at US polling places?
QuietShootr
11-01-12, 06:41
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/10/27/state-department-texas-election/
Okay... what in the mother****.
(if you are going to come in here with some mealymouthed statist bullshit about why this is okay, save your bandwidth.)
The_War_Wagon
11-01-12, 07:10
Texas has threatened to arrest them. U.N. frenchies in a TX prison sounds like all the makings of a great new sitcom - so long as the frenchies all get beaten with socks full of bar soap at the end of each episode! :jester:
One of these days Texas just needs to tell the fed, ya know what, we are done. We can handle things from here.
Think about it. If other countries are looking for ways to conduct fair elections or monitors are going to observe elections in a place like Myanmar, Dirka-dirka-stan, or such, perhaps seeing a a couple of positive models in operation as a baseline is a good thing. Everything isn't an anti-American conspiracy.
Think about it. If other countries are looking for ways to conduct fair elections or monitors are going to observe elections in a place like Myanmar, Dirka-dirka-stan, or such, perhaps seeing a a couple of positive models in operation as a baseline is a good thing. Everything isn't an anti-American conspiracy.
If you read the articles they aren't here to see "how it is done". They are here to make sure the "conservatives" don't oppress the liberal voters.
QuietShootr
11-01-12, 08:22
Think about it. If other countries are looking for ways to conduct fair elections or monitors are going to observe elections in a place like Myanmar, Dirka-dirka-stan, or such, perhaps seeing a a couple of positive models in operation as a baseline is a good thing. Everything isn't an anti-American conspiracy.
I did think about it. The express purpose of these "observers" is to 'deter conservative voter fraud'. But so far, there haven't been any examples of 'conservative voter fraud', but there have been several instances of Democrat voter fraud.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57539706/congressmans-son-resigns-after-voter-fraud-video/
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Democrat-admits-role-in-voter-fraud-case-2142541.php
and on and on..
scoutfsu99
11-01-12, 08:48
This has been ongoing since 2002.
Talk about manufactured drama. There are far more important things to worry about.
They are left wing operatives under the guise of UN observers. The US Dept of State (Hillary) let them in.
VooDoo6Actual
11-01-12, 09:29
Already posted
Post #1646
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=81192&page=83
Everything isn't an anti-American conspiracy.
As you may have noticed I'm way with you there. But as others have pointed out these aren't just observers, they're here to actually oversee operations to a limited extent. To quickly get a sense as to how unbelievably absurd this is, imagine a contingent of Americans monitoring an election for "fairness" in Germany, England or anywhere else for that matter.
And what is their criteria for fair? What, if any, is the extent of their power? Are they being granted access to internal voting data? If they see something they deem questionable for any reason, then what?
As you may have noticed I'm way with you there. But as others have pointed out these aren't just observers, they're here to actually oversee operations to a limited extent. To quickly get a sense as to how unbelievably absurd this is, imagine a contingent of Americans monitoring an election for "fairness" in Germany, England or anywhere else for that matter.
And what is their criteria for fair? What, if any, is the extent of their power? Are they being granted access to internal voting data? If they see something they deem questionable for any reason, then what?
Not to mention the flip side is that Americans are trying to get voter id/voter fraud under control. People are screaming that is evil and un-american. But those some folks are screaming for non-americans to come monitor the conservatives to make sure they aren't cheating the vote.
A little lighter on the hyperbole and higher on the fact scale.
October 29, 2012 4:00 A.M.
U.S. Elections and Foreign Observers
George W. Bush invited the OSCE here in 2004, and it has produced reliable election reports.
By John Fund
Some conservatives became outraged last week at news reports the United Nations was sending observers to monitor our presidential elections. Representative Connie Mack, the GOP nominee for U.S. Senate in Florida, was livid: “The very idea that the United Nations — the world body dedicated to diminishing America’s role in the world — would be allowed, if not encouraged, to install foreigners sympathetic to the likes of Castro, Chávez, Ahmadinejad, and Putin to oversee our elections is nothing short of disgusting.”
Soon it was clarified that the 57 planned observers won’t be from the United Nations, but instead from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe —
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331882/us-elections-and-foreign-observers-john-fund#
For what it's worth I saw two U.N. marked vehicles, one white pickup and one personel transport on a flatbed in Macon Ga heading north on 75.
Screw the U.N.
There I said it. I HATE THE U.N. they are nothing more than the globalist's thugs.
Screw the U.N.
There I said it. I HATE THE U.N. they are nothing more than the globalist's thugs.
You did read that the observers aren't even from the U.N., right?
Wait, read the cites or do basic research in the GD at M4C, what the **** was I thinking?
QuietShootr
11-01-12, 21:11
A little lighter on the hyperbole and higher on the fact scale.
October 29, 2012 4:00 A.M.
U.S. Elections and Foreign Observers
George W. Bush invited the OSCE here in 2004, and it has produced reliable election reports.
By John Fund
Some conservatives became outraged last week at news reports the United Nations was sending observers to monitor our presidential elections. Representative Connie Mack, the GOP nominee for U.S. Senate in Florida, was livid: “The very idea that the United Nations — the world body dedicated to diminishing America’s role in the world — would be allowed, if not encouraged, to install foreigners sympathetic to the likes of Castro, Chávez, Ahmadinejad, and Putin to oversee our elections is nothing short of disgusting.”
Soon it was clarified that the 57 planned observers won’t be from the United Nations, but instead from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe —
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331882/us-elections-and-foreign-observers-john-fund#
Elections
As part of its democratization activities, the OSCE carries out election assistance projects in the run-up to, during, and following elections. However, the effectiveness of such assistance is arguable- Kazakhstan, for example, despite being the current chair of the OSCE, is considered by many to be one of the least democratic countries in the world. Moreover, the recent democratic advances made in other Central Asian republics, notably Kyrgystan, have led to rumours of Soviet-style disruption of the Kyrgyz democratic process by, in particular, Kazakhstan and Russia. This may be in large part due to fears over the long-term stability of these countries' own quasi-dictatorships.
Really? ****ing Borat is monitoring OUR elections to make sure they're fair? And you don't see anything wrong with that?
Wow.
You did read that the observers aren't even from the U.N., right?
Wait, read the cites or do basic research in the GD at M4C, what the **** was I thinking?
I really dont give a shit if the "observers" are midgets from green peace handing out free candy.
My point is, the U.N. is ****ing evil. That is all.
But Im sure you're in the "I love the U.N. because they help people and stuff" group. If so, carry on jellyfish.
If three hundred left-handed Maoist chimpanzees from Zimbabwe came to the U.S. to observe our elections, so what? If they learn something about how a democracy runs, all the better, in the end it serves us, more than them.
Well that would be hard to do, since the United States of America is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC government. Not a democracy.
Maybe thats how the U.N. sees this country , but unfortunately its incorrect.
p.s.......**** the U.N.
VooDoo6Actual
11-01-12, 21:30
Really ? I call BULLSHIT
UN Backed OSCE Sending Observers To Monitor U.S. Election
http://www.inquisitr.com/371778/un-backed-osce-sending-observers-to-monitor-u-s-election/
“The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a United Nations partner on democratization and human rights projects, will deploy 44 observers from its human rights office around the country on Election Day to monitor an array of activities, including potential disputes at polling places. It’s part of a broader observation mission that will send out an additional 80 to 90 members of parliament from nearly 30 countries."
"the internationalists and environmentalists who are a strong part of the Democratic Party are strong supporters of the United Nations. They are highly offended by those who dislike or criticize the UN and would like to see the UN have a stronger role in American life. Mr. Obama has been a vocal supporter of The Law Of the Sea Treaty, The Small Arms Treaty and other United Nations treaties that the Senate has refused to ratify for decades."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_for_Security_and_Co-operation_in_Europe
"The OSCE considers itself a regional organization in the sense of Chapter VIII of the United Nations Charter and is an observer in the United Nations General Assembly. The chairman-in-office gives routine briefings to the United Nations Security Council."
From their own page....
http://www.osce.org/ec/43240
The OSCE recognizes that the United Nations Security Council bears primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. Thus, the United Nations is the OSCE's primary partner organization. In 1992, the participating States declared the OSCE (at that time CSCE) to be "a regional arrangement in the sense of Chapter VIII of the Charter of the United Nations". In 1993, a Framework for Co-operation and Co-ordination between the United Nations Secretariat and the CSCE was agreed upon, and in the same year the UN granted the CSCE observer status.
After 11 September 2001, co-operation has been further enhanced to include active OSCE support for the work of the United Nations and its specialized bodies in the global efforts against terrorism. The shared UN-OSCE agenda includes:
Ratification and implementation of the 12 Universal Anti-terrorism Instruments and other initiatives to combat terrorism
Conflict settlement and peace-building
Early warning and conflict prevention
Small arms and light weapons
Border management
Environmental and economic aspects of security
Anti-trafficking
Democratization and human rights
Freedom of the media
The 2005 World Summit called on the United Nations to expand consultation and co-operation with regional organizations. On 17 October 2005, the UN Security Council adopted a resolution (S/RES/1631) which provided for further enhancing co-operation between regional organizations and the Security Council.
Framework for co-operation
The two organizations maintain close contacts and co-operation through elaborate mechanisms of high-level dialogue, as well as co-ordination and information-sharing at staff-level:
High-level tripartite meetings between the respective Chairpersons and Secretaries General of the OSCE and the Council of Europe, as well as the Director General of the United Nations Office at Geneva, and others, have been held annually since 1993.
Target-oriented meetings at staff level precede each high-level tripartite meeting.
High-level meetings between the UN and regional organizations, to strengthen co-operation in facing challenges to international peace and security, held regularly since 1994.
UN Security Council meetings with regional organizations on thematic issues related to peace and security, have been held annually since 2003.
The OSCE has observer status in the UN General Assembly, while the UN is invited to participate in OSCE Ministerial Council and Summit meetings. UN representatives are frequently invited to address the OSCE Permanent Council.
Representatives of relevant United Nations entities are invited to participate in the main annual OSCE events, including the Human Dimension Implementation Meeting, the Economic Forum and the Annual Security Review Conference.
Annual UN-OSCE staff-level meetings serve as an important venue for exchange of information and co-ordination of activities.
OSCE field operations co-operate closely with UN agencies and missions. For example, the OSCE Mission in Kosovo is an integral part of the UN Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK), and the OSCE Mission to Georgia supports the United Nations conflict settlement efforts in Abkhazia, Georgia."
From their own webpage by their own admonition:
"One of OSCE's closest partners is the United Nations."
BULLSHIT INDEED, but you keep drinking your FOOL-AID
Moose-Knuckle
11-01-12, 21:44
Soon it was clarified that the 57 planned observers won’t be from the United Nations, but instead from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe —
I know it's splitting a c**t hair but they are in bed with each other.
The OSCE recognizes that the United Nations Security Council bears primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. Thus, the United Nations is the OSCE's primary partner organization.
http://www.osce.org/ec/43240
Edit: Oops VD6A beat to the link.
This is so ****ing childish its pathetic. On top of that certain people want to attack other members. This thread is now closed.
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