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w3453l

11-13-12, 17:40

Hello, I wanted to know what the best Flash hider would be for pinning to a shortened barrel on an AK in 7.62x39mm would be? I am planning to get a Krebs AK 103k and I wanted to have a flash hider pinned instead of the muzzle break. From what I have seen on you tube it looked like the AAC Blackout and SE Vortex were the best, is there any others I should look at? Also does one of these have less of the "ringing" sound than the other? Thanks

fhk96

11-13-12, 18:13

Bulgarian AR-M1 type.

N2CH_556

11-13-12, 18:26

I would just go with the SE Vortex.

Moose-Knuckle

11-13-12, 19:09

For 24mm threaded muzzles I'd say the Manticore Night Shroud, for 14mm threads it's hard to beat a Phantom or even an A2 designed for .30 caliber.

Dave_M

11-13-12, 23:30

Does BE Meyers make a device to fit your rifle?

w3453l

11-14-12, 00:30

It must be 24mmx1.5 right hand thread

High Tower

11-14-12, 08:59

Would the Surefire flash hider fit? I am contemplating getting their FH for mine.

BTL BRN

11-14-12, 10:33

It must be 24mmx1.5 right hand thread

You're pretty limited with the 24mm threads, Manticore is probably a best bet.

calvin118

11-14-12, 18:40

With 24mm threads you are stuck with either the Bulgarian flash hider or the Manticore.

With 14mm the vortex is excellent, but will ping. I would also be somewhat concerned about pinning a Vortex, as they have a ledge that could trap fouling between it and the face of the barrel. This could theoretically lead to accelerated wear and pitting of the face and crown.

If I was pinning a muzzle device on an AK, I would choose either an A2 or a MI flash hider. They are both light and short (which maximizes the amount of barrel you can have at a given overall length). Neither has a ledge over the face of the barrel. I picked the MI up on a whim to try it out, and was shocked at what a good job it does at both hiding flash and compensating without creating any noticeable overpressure.

If you do insist upon 'near-zero' flash your choices (to my knowledge) are the blackout (with custom threading) and vortex. I personally do not think that either is worth the trouble on a pinned barrel for the above reasons. If you absolutely need to have as close to zero flash as possible, either stay at 16" or pay the $200 for a tax stamp.

plouffedaddy

11-14-12, 21:45

MAC's Video Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WistnSL0tKw&feature=g-u-u)

Tim from Military Arms did a very good test of the Manticore products above in both 14 & 24mm patterns. It's worth checking out.

w3453l

11-14-12, 23:12

thanks for the replies, does anyone know if the manticore affects accuracy at all? I can't watch the video atm since I don't have to plug in for it

jamesavery22

11-15-12, 09:24

I got to play around with both the NightShroud and the NightBrake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t8vEdTcB8FY#t=101s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZap2F1AWs&list=UUKmSQFQ6K7upCxg3LVfUdSg&feature=player_detailpage#t=282s

I wouldn't expect any accuracy issues with either muzzle attachment as they both locked up tight in the Arsenal I installed them on. POI shift? Probably.

I never did any extensive testing in terms of POI shift when moving from the 74 type comp and any of the aftermarket ones.

The design of the NightShroud are much more open than the 74. The ID of the NightShroud is much larger than the ID of the bore. I'll measure later. A guess would be ≈ 0.75"

The ID of the exit hole of the chamber of the type 74 as well as the ID of the end of the type 74 is smaller. The ID of the end of NightBrake is probably equal to that of the two holes in the type 74.

If your stock type 74 is loosey goosey on your current rifle, going to any muzzle attachment that locks up solid will help. Who knows how much.

plouffedaddy

11-15-12, 11:14

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMG_1153.jpg

I have the 26mm on my Yugo; no change in POI.

Caeser25

11-16-12, 19:29

Another vote for the MI.

w3453l

11-17-12, 06:54

sorry, but by MI are you referring to Midwest Indistries?

w3453l

11-19-12, 19:04

I just found this http://www.surefire.com/sf3p-762-m24x1-5-flash-hider.html does anyone have any experience with it? I tried googling any info but found nothing.

Caeser25

11-21-12, 18:06

sorry, but by MI are you referring to Midwest Indistries?

yes.......

Moose-Knuckle

11-21-12, 19:06

I just found this http://www.surefire.com/sf3p-762-m24x1-5-flash-hider.html does anyone have any experience with it? I tried googling any info but found nothing.

Damn, those must have just come out. Nice find, I'll have to pick one up that way I have an excuse to finally get a can to fit my Kalashnikovs. :cool:

w3453l

11-21-12, 21:15

yes.......

Sorry I was confused as I posted earlier that I needed 24x1.5 and those are 14x1.5 if I'm not mistaken

w3453l

11-21-12, 21:15

Damn, those must have just come out. Nice find, I'll have to pick one up that way I have an excuse to finally get a can to fit my Kalashnikovs. :cool:

And yeah, I have always heard good things about Surefire but I was surprised these weren't mentioned so I assume they're new. Problem with the manticore is that I think it's too short. I need something that is about the same length as the 74 style muzzle breaks, and the Surefire is 3.82 inches which sounds about right.

Caeser25

11-22-12, 06:29

Sorry I was confused as I posted earlier that I needed 24x1.5 and those are 14x1.5 if I'm not mistaken

Sorry, I missed your follow up.

Belloc

11-22-12, 12:23

Edit.

w3453l

11-22-12, 15:06

Sorry, I missed your follow up.

no worries