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Straight Shooter
11-20-12, 16:33
Will a Gen4 trigger housing with the 30724 ejector fit in a new Gen 3?
Wanting to get this ejector so if I have to get the Apex extractor Ill have whats recomended. I just looked at Midway for a Gen 3 housing, didnt see one. Any other sources if a Gen 4 wont work in a Gen 3?
Hi,
The Gen 4 trigger housing will not fit into the Gen 3 frame. You will need to remove the 30274 ejector (which is only pressed into the plastic) and swap it into your Gen 3 trigger housing.
-Randy
Littlelebowski
11-20-12, 16:44
Pull out the ejectors using pliers padded with a cloth and swap them. That's what I did.
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Straight Shooter
11-20-12, 18:37
Gents...thanks for the answers! Does anyone sell the Gen 3's?
Glockparts.com, Lone Wolf Distributors, MidWayUSA... and a crap ton of others carry parts, Gen 3 housings, etc...
Straight Shooter
11-20-12, 21:10
I looked ALL those places and more before I asked..no dice.
Trigger Mechanism Housing w/Ejector 9mm (http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7292&CAT=748)
brushy bill
11-20-12, 23:01
I think he is asking if there is a Gen 3 30274, which as far as I know, there is not.
I think he is asking if there is a Gen 3 30274, which as far as I know, there is not.
Correct, you must order a gen 4 housing.
platoonDaddy
11-21-12, 04:20
I sent my Gen 3 G19OD serial # PTVxx back to the factory for erratic ejection issues and they returned it with the 30274 ejector. Don't believe they swapped out the housing, just the ejector.
Had to press the issue to get a return shipping label, initially they didn't want to provide one, but a little arm twisting they relented.
I sent my Gen 3 G19OD serial # PTVxx back to the factory for erratic ejection issues and they returned it with the 30274 ejector. Don't believe they swapped out the housing, just the ejector.
Had to press the issue to get a return shipping label, initially they didn't want to provide one, but a little arm twisting they relented.
You can get just the ejector if you are a Glock Armorer.
But the cost difference & time to get one from an Armorer
isn't worth it.
Littlelebowski
11-21-12, 06:49
I get the ejectors from my local gun shop. $10.
I get the ejectors from my local gun shop. $10.
They are Glock Armorer's I'm sure.
On the other hand I got my G4 housing off an e-bay police supply
dealer for $9.99 & free shipping.
So there are many options these days.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310409205758
I bought a couple of Gen 4 trigger housings with 30274 ejectors for $8 each at Midway. Pushing the ejectors out with a flat blade screwdriver and reinstalling in my Gen 3 housing took about 5 min max.
I bought a couple of Gen 4 trigger housings with 30274 ejectors for $8 each at Midway. Pushing the ejectors out with a flat blade screwdriver and reinstalling in my Gen 3 housing took about 5 min max.
There you go, I also use the push out method.
KiloHotelWhiskey13
11-21-12, 08:18
I ordered a Gen 4 trigger housing from Glockmeister this week ($7.00). I got a shipping notification yesterday, so they must have plenty in stock.
scoutchris
11-21-12, 08:35
You'd be better off buying a brick of ammo.
Straight Shooter
11-21-12, 08:42
Stop with the "better off buying ammo" crap.
What...buy a "brick" of 9mm only to have it do what the previous several hundred have done..dribble out the gun?!
Im no schmuck here scoutchris. If the ****in gun needs needs a better part, " buying a brick of ammo" aint accomplishing shit, except delaying the inevitable.
But...THANKS for your 2cents.:rolleyes:
Littlelebowski
11-21-12, 08:55
You'd be better off buying a brick of ammo.
The guy is trying to fix a problem with the gun using a $10 part. Think about that. It's a known problem with known fixes (seriously, there's a few ways to try and remedy this). Think about what I just said. $12 box of ammo or $10 part? Which one is going to do more insofar as problem analysis and possible resolution?
KiloHotelWhiskey13
11-21-12, 09:02
Yep. I have plenty of ammo. I'm just tired of half of it hitting me in the face. I have been following the multiple threads on this issue for a while, & based on the info posted I have ordered the Apex extractor & Gen 4 ejector in hope that this will cure the problem. Thanks to all of you for the RELEVANT info on this subject!
You'd be better off buying a brick of ammo.
:suicide:
You'd be better off buying a brick of ammo.
Seriously............... troll???
Littlelebowski
11-21-12, 09:47
We should take a step back and see if learning occurs.
brickboy240
11-21-12, 10:38
I just bought a gen 4 trigger housing from Lone Wolf and plan on taking the ejector out and replacing the 336 ejector in my 3rd gen G19.
Unless you go through a certified Glock armorer....this is the only way you can get the ejector.
I was told by the guys at Apex that their 3rd gen Glock extractor runs best with the newer ejector and I want mine to run well so an ejector swap is in the works.
...fingers crossed that THIS fixes the brass to face issue with my 3rd gen G19.
-brickboy240
Unless you go through a certified Glock armorer....this is the only way you can get the ejector.
I was told by the guys at Apex that their 3rd gen Glock extractor runs best with the newer ejector and I want mine to run well so an ejector swap is in the works.
...fingers crossed that THIS fixes the brass to face issue with my 3rd gen G19.
-brickboy240
I bought a couple of Gen 4 trigger housings from Midway for $8 each. Slipped the 30274 ejectors out of them, put one of them into my Gen 3 trigger housing without problem. All I need is the Gen 3 extractor (any day now) and some range time.
EzGoingKev
11-22-12, 05:34
Are people installing these only on late Gen 3 pistols?
I have a 2002 Gen 3 G17 that occasionally dumps some brass in my face every trip to the range. None of my other Glocks do this at all. I replaced the extractor plunger spring with a new Glock one but it still does it.
I am wondering if this would remedy that.
Are people installing these only on late Gen 3 pistols?
I have a 2002 Gen 3 G17 that occasionally dumps some brass in my face every trip to the range. None of my other Glocks do this at all. I replaced the extractor plunger spring with a new Glock one but it still does it.
I am wondering if this would remedy that.
The early models generally don't do BTF, but how many rounds on the RSA?
Check extractor condition and tension as well as free movement.
Magazine spring fresh?
If all that checks out it's $10 & a few minutes work to try one
I don't have a lot of experience with Glocks, but from what I read and Glock armorers have told me, I'd be thinking magazine springs in a 10 year old Glock that has developed variable ejection.
EzGoingKev
11-22-12, 09:24
The early models generally don't do BTF, but how many rounds on the RSA?
About 1k rounds. I did all the springs in my Glocks at the beginning of the year. I also swapped the the springs from the Gen2 G17 that I have had zero issues with and it still does it.
Check extractor condition and tension as well as free movement.
I have had it all apart and everything moves freely, no burrs/highspots. The plunger is good. The Gen3 has the LCI extractor so I cannot try it in my Gen2.
Magazine spring fresh?
I'd be thinking magazine springs in a 10 year old Glock that has developed variable ejection.
1. The mag springs have all been replaced w/ Wolff +10%.
2. I use the same mags in my Gen2 G17, Gen3 G17, and at times my Gen3 G19. The Gen3 G17 is the only one I am having ejection issues with.
My Gen3 G17 is the only one with the LCI extractor and it is the only one I am having issues with. When the brass was extracting funny I figured I got a later model one but I checked the serial numbers and it is from 2002.
If I go to the range and put 200 rounds through I will get 2 or 3 hitting me in the face and 2 or 3 that miss my face and go over my shoulder.
If all that checks out it's $10 & a few minutes work to try one
I have ruled out all the normal stuff so I think I will give this a try.
Bullseye-777
11-22-12, 10:00
The Gen3 has the LCI extractor so I cannot try it in my Gen2.
Actually, you can.
Actually, you can.
The gen2 uses a 90deg extractor, gen3 LCI uses the 5/15 part.
It will fit but I can't see it working well. The extractor claw
is in a lower position because of the LCI function.
There is also an intermediate generation angle cut extractor that lacks the LCI modifications.
Only my LCI version one has the BTF problem.
Bullseye-777
11-22-12, 10:51
It will fit but I can't see it working well.
Well without actually testing it, one wouldn't know the results.
There is also an intermediate generation angle cut extractor that lacks the LCI modifications.
Only my LCI version one has the BTF problem.
Yes, when Glock went to the 5 deg breachface pre LCI
from what I've read.
That's why I don't believe you would get positive
results with a LCI extractor in any gen Glock.
I've done a lot of research on these extractor issues and
most of what I found out points to the LCI design and MIM.
EzGoingKev
05-25-13, 14:45
I finally got a chance to try the 30274 in my Gen3 G17 and the results were positive so far.
I shot all my Glock manufactured mags through it. My mags are:
(1) 19 round (17+2)
(6) 17 round U notch mags (living in a ban state sucks)
(3) 10 round mags
All mags were fully loaded so 151 rounds in total. Not a lot IMO but 9mm isnt the easiest thing to score right now.
I did not get a single round in the face and my brass was all at about 3:30.
Replacing the 336 ejectors in both my late model G17 and G19 with 30274's cured both of my guns of failing to eject completely and hitting me in the face with brass. Both guns are gen 3's.
A 30274 may not fix everyone's issue from gun to gun but it's the cheapest, easiest, most logical place to start.
Robb Jensen
05-25-13, 23:20
The 30274 ejector fixes almost all Gen3 GLOCK 9mms which have "dip-LCI" ejectors and which have functioning issues and brass hitting the shooter. If used in GLOCK 9mms that have non-LCI extractors they can cause the brass to hit the shooter.
I'm a GLOCK Advanced Armorer.
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