View Full Version : MK14 or SR25 or AR10?
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 12:19
I'm considering a precision semi-auto 7.62.
I really like the FAL, but I don't think it's suited for precision shooting due to how optics are attached. Not much interested in H&K, either.
Between the MK14 (Crazy Horse/SEI), the Knight's Armament SR25, or the Armalite AR10, which would be the "best" option? ("best" based on accuracy potential, reliability & durability, parts & mag availability, ability to suppress, etc.)
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 12:29
One one hand, the AR platform is attractive because it's something I'm already very familiar with; on the other hand, the M14-platform seems to be stronger.
ChandlerSniper158
02-20-08, 13:31
If your looking to get one as a precision rifle.. get the SR25. The M1A/M14 takes alot to make it a real precision rifle and its takes maintenance to keep it that way. My Mk11 Mod 0 shot was extremely accurate with the right ammo. ( 5 rounds into 4" at 800 yds ). And as you`ve pointed out the manual of arms is the same. I really regret selling it, and have tried to get it back. It`s all gonna depend on how much you really want to spend and what you plan on doing with it.
CS
Is none of the above an option?
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 13:46
Chandler: did you handload to achieve that accuracy?
Doc: alternative suggestions are welcome. You stated this in another thread: "The 6.5/6.8 mm or .308 are far better choices: In a bolt gun, I'd go .308 and if a semi-auto is desired, 6.8 mm or 6.5 mm." I'm hesitant to use a caliber that's not relatively easy to obtain.
ChandlerSniper158
02-20-08, 13:52
Nope didn`t handload.. M118 LR and 175 Federal GM Match.
Doc is right on, none of the above. ETA: According to your criteria the AR10 seems like the best choice.
If you want a true precision rifle, go with a nice bolt gun. It will likely cost less than any of the options presented and certainly shoot better.
A standard AR with a Geissele trigger and 6.5 upper with nice glass is also a winner, and gives you a good degree of versatility. Alexander Arms is going to be he go-to for 6.5 IMO. An SPR-sized 6.5G with a Nightforce 2.5-10X would almost be more fun than I could stand.
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 14:24
hmmm. Complete 6.5 uppers from $8XX to $23XX.
I already have two bolt rifles that, while they're really hunting rifles, are also good long range shooters.
The AA 18" barrel in a Larue Stealth upper/Larue 13.2 rail combo would be great. Slap the Nightforce in a Larue 1.5 SPR and you have a pretty light, handy, and accurate 800M gun.
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 14:55
opinions on the Sabre 6.5G uppers?
eta: looks like nearly all the Sabres are chrome lined. I'm looking for precision over barrel longevity.
Gunfighter13
02-20-08, 18:40
My short list for a semi auto:
1. Noveske 21" Heavy 7.62mm Rifle.
2. DPMS SASS W/upgrades. (Cyro barrel, trigger)
3. Fulton Armory Mk 14 Mod 0 SOCOM Rifle w/upgrades.
Any of theses three with good glass will give you 1000-yard capability.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/CIMG1142.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/CIMG1143.jpg
AA 6.5 GDMR twins: 16" and 19.5"
8 shots at 100 yards out of the 16" GDMR:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/thmpr464/CIMG3281.jpg
decodeddiesel
02-20-08, 21:40
8 shots at 100 yards out of the 16" GDMR:
If you don't mind I am very curious as to the load which produced this result.
Gentle Ben
02-20-08, 22:03
nice rifles & great group.
120 Match King Sierra OAL:2.220 CCI#41
Hodgdon BL-(C)2: 31.7 grains as stated on AA's website.
Found max loads per AA gave the best accuracy.
I have to vote for the M1A/M14. But I am a big fan of military weapons.
Gentle Ben
02-21-08, 18:28
honestly, the 6.5G is something I hadn't considered. however, after reading up on its ballistics (as well as the fact that it's as simple as getting the 6.5 upper & some mags, and running the setup on a lower I already have), I'm very intrigued. I've been wanting to get back into reloading, and this might be just the excuse.
You also might consider an MSTN or Noveske 6.8 mm upper.
03humpalot
02-22-08, 03:41
The AA 18" barrel in a Larue Stealth upper/Larue 13.2 rail combo would be great. Slap the Nightforce in a Larue 1.5 SPR and you have a pretty light, handy, and accurate 800M gun.
Great minds think alike, thats what im building;)
Gentle Ben
02-22-08, 08:23
I see a lot of recommendations for Night Force optics on a lot of forums. How does Night Force stack up (quality/clarity/durability) against Leupold for tactical/precision use?
I'm not an optics guru, and I haven't been following the trends of what scopes are the latest and greatest. However, I've owned a wide variety of scopes, and have been dissatisfied with everything but Leupold (and an old 1.5x Unertl...damn I miss that one). I put my Leupolds through considerable abuse (hunting in MT in pretty rough terrain/weather conditions) and they proved to be boringly dependable.
SinnFéinM1911
02-22-08, 10:47
Is none of the above an option?
I agree ? any other choices?
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