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He's a good kid.
http://www.inquisitr.com/435706/congressmans-son-pleads-guilty-to-allegedly-fracturing-girlfriends-skull/
Above the law:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SENATE_INTERN_ARRESTED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-12-14-18-16
Moran was sentenced to 90 days in jail which was suspended by the judge, and one year of probation. If he violates his probation he will serve the 90 days. He must also enter a domestic violence intervention program, pay a $50 fine to a domestic violence program and complete 50 hours of community service.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/435706/congressmans-son-pleads-guilty-to-allegedly-fracturing-girlfriends-skull/#qbdDLKRivRXzHFCt.99
High level members of the national democratic socialist party, much like the Soviets whom they so admired, and are striving to emulate, answer to a completely different justice system then does the proletariat...
pray the chicks family and her get together and throw a insane civil suit on everyone they can touch !!!!
This all while he's under investigation for conspiracy to commit voter fraud.
I shudder to think of the shitstorm that would happen if any of us did a similar thing.
Our lives would basically be, over.
This guy gets a pass and simply had to resign from Daddy's campaign. And it sounds like the stupid bitch is sticking with him. I guess a ride on the "money train" can get a little bumpy.
But now she knows not to bitch about him checking out the other skirts. Yes, he's on his way to being a fine politician.
This guy is like this now because he has gotten a pass on everything in his life I'll wager. No accountability and soon he will be diagnosed with some disorder to take away any remaining responsibility. And for his father to refer to this as an embarrassing situation that kind of explains it all.
pray the chicks family and her get together and throw a insane civil suit on everyone they can touch !!!!
Are you kidding.... These are northern VA Dems.
The girlfriend of the son of a congressman now says that the son did not assault her that, no, her high heel broke and caused her to fall and break her nose even though her boyfriend pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault in Washington Wednesday morning. The Virginia Democrat's office released the woman's statement, in which she said the police report is inaccurate in saying Patrick Moran slammed her head into a trash can cage. The unusual chain of events and a series of press releases are a little hard to follow, so here's a timeline:
http://news.yahoo.com/rep-morans-sons-girlfriend-denies-assault-blames-heels-221920080.html
December 12, late afternoon: Moran's office stops speaking for the woman, and issues a statement in her name. She says the police report is false. ARLNow.com reports she says: :confused:
The local news report said the police report indicated the LEO saw the guy grab the girls hair and smash her face into the metal can retainer. That's kind of an odd thing to mistake. Trip on a broken heel / have hair grabbed and face smashed. Probably because they were drunk and arguing the LEO got confused. It's probably good that Moran's office stopped speaking for the girl and simply issued a statement in her name. ...... Damn these people have no shame.
Yes Virginia you are owned by the Dems.
I shudder to think of the shitstorm that would happen if any of us did a similar thing.
Our lives would basically be, over.
This guy gets a pass and simply had to resign from Daddy's campaign. And it sounds like the stupid bitch is sticking with him. I guess a ride on the "money train" can get a little bumpy.
But now she knows not to bitch about him checking out the other skirts. Yes, he's on his way to being a fine politician.
It's what's called an out of court settlement, at least on the civil side. They pay the girl a bucketload of cash including medical expenses and she agrees to say it was her fault.
I don't think it's a bad thing. If you can pay for your mistake to the satisfaction of the person you wronged without having to burden the tax payers, please do so.
Since this is GD and people are obviously going to take my statements to the extreme, let me add: In cases in which the person wronged will not or cannot accept compensation (the vicitm is dead, in a coma, etc), the state should definitely pick up the tab and force compensation via various punishments like jail time, fines, and/or execution.
If they would put Representative Moran in a white collar prison for 6 months for his willful lying and deceit upon the public he represents I would be ok with that.
They have simply changed one obvious crime into two somewhat obscure crimes. As long as they pay for both that's ok. Unfortunately they only want to pay for a part of something that's different from what really happened.
Representative Moran is now part of the crime. He needs to pay as well to make it fair and his crime was not towards the girl. It was towards all other Virginians.
It's what's called an out of court settlement, at least on the civil side. They pay the girl a bucketload of cash including medical expenses and she agrees to say it was her fault.
I don't think it's a bad thing. If you can pay for your mistake to the satisfaction of the person you wronged without having to burden the tax payers, please do so.
Since this is GD and people are obviously going to take my statements to the extreme, let me add: In cases in which the person wronged will not or cannot accept compensation (the vicitm is dead, in a coma, etc), the state should definitely pick up the tab and force compensation via various punishments like jail time, fines, and/or execution.
I'm not trying to take your comments to the extreme, but I do want to point out that there are 2 victims of any violent crime: the person and the State. The person has the recourse of civil litigation to right the wrongs that you mentioned.
The State's interest go beyond simple restitution since there is a need to punish, protect, and deter. I'd argue that the State failed all three of its missions with this case. The perpetrator is not being sufficiently punished for his crime due to this plea deal. The victim is still at risk since domestic violence is a chronic process (it rarely happens serendipitously). Finally, there is no deterrence - especially among the ruling class of our society who were further reassured of their political power by this case. Now, it's very possible that the State's case was significantly hampered by a non-cooperative victim witness. However, this case does nothing to reaffirm my eroding faith in the system.
Littlelebowski
12-13-12, 10:48
Ah, truly in the tradition of another Yankee Irish clan....
I'm not trying to take your comments to the extreme, but I do want to point out that there are 2 victims of any violent crime: the person and the State. The person has the recourse of civil litigation to right the wrongs that you mentioned.
The State's interest go beyond simple restitution since there is a need to punish, protect, and deter. I'd argue that the State failed all three of its missions with this case. The perpetrator is not being sufficiently punished for his crime due to this plea deal. The victim is still at risk since domestic violence is a chronic process (it rarely happens serendipitously). Finally, there is no deterrence - especially among the ruling class of our society who were further reassured of their political power by this case. Now, it's very possible that the State's case was significantly hampered by a non-cooperative victim witness. However, this case does nothing to reaffirm my eroding faith in the system.
Punish and protect assume the victim is a victim. I think if the victim (not the family of the victim) can punish the perpetrator directly, that would be in everyone's best interest. If the victim is ok with being smacked around if each time it happens she gets a million dollars, I don't see why the state needs to step in at the cost of tax payers.
I was more talking about how it should be and how it sometimes turns out, not how the legal system currently works, which is as you describe.
But I'm a huge fan of out of court settlements and I think they should be able to be made in criminal cases between the victim and the perp. But the family should not be able to negotiate on behalf of the victim and if the victim is not of sound mind (or is not alive), the state should be required to punish the suspect.
It's what's called an out of court settlement, at least on the civil side. They pay the girl a bucketload of cash including medical expenses and she agrees to say it was her fault.
I don't think it's a bad thing. If you can pay for your mistake to the satisfaction of the person you wronged without having to burden the tax payers, please do so.
Since this is GD and people are obviously going to take my statements to the extreme, let me add: In cases in which the person wronged will not or cannot accept compensation (the vicitm is dead, in a coma, etc), the state should definitely pick up the tab and force compensation via various punishments like jail time, fines, and/or execution.
I don't disagree. Some people will let Michael Jackson **** their kids for the right amount of money. The girl is obviously willing to "take her licks" in order to maintain what she obviously thinks will be a rewarding relationship.
I just wish these seething low lifes would find their own country so we don't have to live among them.
I don't disagree. Some people will let Michael Jackson **** their kids for the right amount of money. The girl is obviously willing to "take her licks" in order to maintain what she obviously thinks will be a rewarding relationship.
I just wish these seething low lifes would find their own country so we don't have to live among them.
Well in my ideal legal system I wouldn't let parents negotiate for minors (exploitation) as I would consider them unable to negotiate, but yeah basically.
I just wish these seething low lifes would find their own country so we don't have to live among them.
I think they have found one. :(
They are wallowing in their new found power like a dog rolling on a dead duck.
If the victim is ok with being smacked around if each time it happens she gets a million dollars, I don't see why the state needs to step in at the cost of tax payers.
I was more talking about how it should be and how it sometimes turns out, not how the legal system currently works, which is as you describe.
But I'm a huge fan of out of court settlements and I think they should be able to be made in criminal cases between the victim and the perp. But the family should not be able to negotiate on behalf of the victim and if the victim is not of sound mind (or is not alive), the state should be required to punish the suspect.
The girl is obviously willing to "take her licks" in order to maintain what she obviously thinks will be a rewarding relationship.
That has not been my experience with most domestic violence situations. Although, this one admittedly has a lot of potential to violate "the norm" due to the political figures involved. My experience has been that most of these victims stay with their abusers out of fear. Usually the abuser will threaten their victim with financial ruin, harm to children, false claims of sexual abuse, etc. if they try to end the relationship. In almost every situation, there is some form of leverage that the abuser holds over their victim. I've personally never met a woman who tolerated getting the shit kicked out of her because the money is great.
We should keep this in mind when examining this case. It is very possible that this woman has been intimidated by the forces at play. In fact, I'd say that this is the most likely scenario since Jim Moran's net worth is less than $6M and his son is far less - he is not exactly Daddy Warbucks.
Are you kidding.... These are northern VA Dems.
http://news.yahoo.com/rep-morans-sons-girlfriend-denies-assault-blames-heels-221920080.html
:confused:
The local news report said the police report indicated the LEO saw the guy grab the girls hair and smash her face into the metal can retainer. That's kind of an odd thing to mistake. Trip on a broken heel / have hair grabbed and face smashed. Probably because they were drunk and arguing the LEO got confused. It's probably good that Moran's office stopped speaking for the girl and simply issued a statement in her name. ...... Damn these people have no shame.
Yes Virginia you are owned by the Dems.
Maybe as she was falling from the broken heel he tried to grab her but got her hair instead and his reaction was late as she hit the metal can :rolleyes:
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Another curious aspect of this case is how quickly it made it through the court. The assault occurred on 12/1/12 and the court date was less than 2 weeks later? That has to be the fastest adjudication I've ever seen. Things that make you go hummm....
That has not been my experience with most domestic violence situations.
I think this situation is unique for all the reasons you mentioned.
Moose-Knuckle
12-13-12, 15:07
Ah, truly in the tradition of another Yankee Irish clan....
Yup, Chappaquiddick was the first thing that popped into my noggin when I read the OP.
"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others . . . " ~ Animal Farm
Police Report
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/537799-document-3.html#document/p1
2 professional witnesses....
Also I believe the kid got a court appointed lawyer because daddy says he's broke.
That whole family is a CF.
Ah, truly in the tradition of another Yankee Irish clan....
:D :dance3:
Smuckatelli
12-13-12, 22:05
Another curious aspect of this case is how quickly it made it through the court. The assault occurred on 12/1/12 and the court date was less than 2 weeks later? That has to be the fastest adjudication I've ever seen. Things that make you go hummm....
He is a tool that continues to be protected by daddy:
The son of Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., has resigned from his father's campaign after a conservative group released an undercover video in which he discussed a plan to cast fraudulent ballots.
Patrick Moran, who had been a field director for the campaign, released a brief resignation statement Wednesday. Moran's resignation has been accepted and is effective immediately, the campaign told 9News in an e-mail. The station is owned by USA TODAY parent company Gannett.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/25/jim-moran-son-vote-fraud-video/1656981/
Wonder where the girl's father is in this. If somebody smashed the head of one of my girls, court would be the least of his worries.
He is a tool that continues to be protected by daddy:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/25/jim-moran-son-vote-fraud-video/1656981/
I'd say that it was not just daddy that had his back. IMHO, you don't get a felony assault case pushed that quickly through the courts without friends in the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office, courts, etc. Then, you have a softball ruling from a judge that none of us would ever enjoy if our actions were witnessed by 2 LEO's. This is why I suspect that the cooperating witness / victim changed her story. She quickely realized that she was all alone on this one...
Wonder where the girl's father is in this.
I've wondered that myself. They apparently have the power to put the fear in a lot of people rather quickly.
Moran's 2nd wife divorced him the the day after police had to be called to the house where they witnessed bruises on her and she said she was in fear of abuse. I think that was back in '99. Like Father like Son.
Agree with Sensei, there have to be lots of people involved in this. I mean how did he even merit a court appointed lawyer. Don't you have to qualify for that?
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