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SMETNA
12-20-12, 02:50
Important resources to include in letters to congress and to skeptical family:

Thomas Jefferson:

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” –Thomas Jefferson, proposed Virginia constitution, June 1776. Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C. J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” –Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in “On Crimes and Punishment”, 1764

When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny –Thomas Jefferson

“And what country can preserve it’s liberties, if the rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take up arms. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” –Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William S. Smith, 1787

“The Constitution of most of our states, and the United States, assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves: that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.” Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776

Samuel Adams:

“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.” –Samuel Adams

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” –Samuel Adams, During the Massachusetts U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

“If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams, 1776

Benjamin Franklin:

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” –Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the governor, November 11, 1755

Noah Webster:

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. the supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” –Noah Webster, An Examination into the Leading Principles of the federal Constitution (1787) in Pamphlets to the Constitution of the United States (P. Ford, 1888).

Tench Coxe:

“Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people” –Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” Tench Coxe, in “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution.” Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

John Adams:

“Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at the individual discretion, in private self-defense.” John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, 1787-88

Alexander Hamilton:

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8

Richard Henry Lee:

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms. To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” Richard Henry Lee, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights. Additional Letters From the Federal Farmer 53, 1788

Patrick Henry:

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Every man who is able may have a gun.” –Patrick Henry, During Virginia’s ratification convention, 1788

James Madison:

“The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” James Madison, The Federalist No. 46

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of people, trained in arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” –James Madison, I Annuals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789)

George Mason:

“I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” –George Mason, during Virginia’s ratification convention, 1788

Thomas Paine:

“Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived the use of them.” –Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War, 1775

George Washington:

“A free people ought to be armed. When firearms go, all goes, we need them by the hour. Firearms stand next to importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.” –George Washington, Boston Independence Chronicle, January 14, 1790

“To ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” –George Washington, The Federalist No. 53

PLEASE add any that I missed.
Thank you.

Moose-Knuckle
12-20-12, 03:48
Sorry but this is the only one that matters at this point in the game.

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

feedramp
12-20-12, 06:40
Thanks SMETNA that's a great start!

FlyingHunter
12-20-12, 07:22
Great compilation SMETNA, thank you!

SMETNA
12-20-12, 07:30
"Touch my weapon and you mother****in die, mother****er!" - Samuel Jackson

:lol:

Mauser KAR98K
12-20-12, 08:17
STICKY THIS THREAD. DO IT!!!!

Sensei
12-20-12, 09:13
The Founding Fathers (Jefferson in particular) abhorred the notion of a standing army, and viewed it as one of the single greatests threats to personal liberty. Therefore, they called on a well trained and disciplined militia to meet internal and external threats to their liberty.

Fast forward 200 years and we have a massive standing Army along with a well armed, poorly trained, and undisciplined population that looks nothing like the citizen militia that the Founders envisioned. So, rather than post quotes that incorrectly suggest that the Founders simply wanted an armed population, here are some that tell the other 50% of the story that many like to ignore:

"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson, 1803.

"We must train and classify the whole of our male citizens, and make military instruction a regular part of collegiate education. We can never be safe till this is done."
--Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1813.

"I think the truth must now be obvious that our people are too happy at home to enter into regular service, and that we cannot be defended but by making every citizen a soldier, as the Greeks and Romans who had no standing armies; and that in doing this all must be marshaled, classed by their ages, and every service ascribed to its competent class."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1814.

moonshot
12-20-12, 12:56
Not all of these are from the Founding Fathers, but they are pretty spot on...

A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high virtues of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. -- Thomas Jefferson 20 Sep 1810

Necessity is the plea for every infringement upon human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt 1783

Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson

Speak softly and carry a big stick. -- Teddy Roosevelt

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. -- Thomas Jefferson in letter to Abigail Adams, Paris, 1787

The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once. -- Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003

We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. -- Patrick Henry

A sword is never a killer; it is a tool in the killer's hands. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca 4 BC - 65 AD

Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. - Tench Coxe 2/20/1788

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men. -- Samuel Adams.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free. -- Ronald W. Reagan

The most glaring example of the cognitive dissonance on the left is the concept that human beings are inherently good, yet at the same time cannot be trusted with any kind of weapon, unless the magic fairy dust of government authority gets sprinkled upon them. - Moshe Ben-David

There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - USMC Major General Smedley Butler (won the MoH twice)

TacMedic556
12-31-12, 16:39
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." -George Washington

"Tyranny cannot be safe without a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." -James Madison

"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -Orwell

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson

George Tucker, who's work has been cited by the Supreme Court over 40 times, wrote of the 2nd Amendment: "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty... The right of self-defense is the first law of nature."

spr1
12-31-12, 16:48
I am constantly amazed and in awe of the wisdom of our founding fathers. And, constantly saddened by the death spiral we seem to be in.

5pins
12-31-12, 17:05
”Suck on my machine gun.” - Ted Nugent :D

feedramp
12-31-12, 18:17
The leftist will just retort with ad hominems about the founding fathers being a bunch of slave-owning racists and such. They don't care.

J-Dub
12-31-12, 19:37
Didnt you get the memo? Those guys were terrorists.


Well thats what DHS and DOJ would have you believe.

6933
12-31-12, 20:06
"A government who doesn't trust law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms, itself is unworthy of trust."

-James Madison

montanadave
01-01-13, 15:17
He might not be a founding father, but I'm guessing a lot of us thought he was one cool dude.

“A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.” -- Shane

usmcvet
01-01-13, 16:33
This news reporter sums it IP well in this three min segment.

http://www.fox19.com/story/20399062/the-very-politically-incorrect-truth-about-the-second-amendment

I shared it on FB. I know we are like minded here on m4c but if you agree share it too. It just freaking makes sense.

TacMedic556
01-07-13, 00:33
There is a super battle debate taking place on this 2nd Amendment video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCdnnRkL1A

Let's help our side out.

7 RING
01-07-13, 01:50
My favorite is "The 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting!"