Is the "panic" affecting your plans? [Archive]

ramairthree

12-20-12, 17:51

weggy

12-20-12, 18:57

No, I'm still planning on eating cheesie poofs and watching porn.:lol:

cougar_guy04

12-20-12, 20:07

I've looked at going to Rimfire division at the Multigun matches. 500 rounds would get me about 5 months of matches.

Just need a holster and mag pouches for a Buckmark or P22 and some mag pouches for the Ruger 25 rounders for a 10/22.

ericridebike

12-20-12, 20:14

Yeah, was thinking about doing an IDPA match this weekend, but now wondering if I should conserve my ammo. I don't really have a huge amount stocked, so might be better off to hold onto it till we how things unfold. I like to think that it will end up being another unfounded panic, but this time seems like it has a bit more likelihood for something to happen.

Bluedreaux

12-20-12, 20:46

I was in the middle of putting together an AR for 3 gun when this all hit. I've finally got it all ordered from places that showed to have it in stock. But it's tough looking for anything.

ICANHITHIMMAN

12-20-12, 21:05

no still broke :lol:

420ollie

12-20-12, 21:10

I was gonna get some ammo and mags after Christmas but everyone got scared and took everything. Even the cheap stuff.

I planned to get the ammo and mags after Christmas for a couple months. That back fired and I won't be able to pick up anything for a while.

Alaskapopo

12-20-12, 22:30

Like many, I keep 1000 or more of some calibers on hand, and the supplies to reload 2 or more times that on hand.

I try to get to a match with my son at least once a month. That means at least a couple hunded of at least one caliber depending on what type we do. Not even counting testing a new load, project, or optic.

There was already a supply issue with some things related to election time. The past week's panic has altered prices and availability even more.

This has me reconsidering some events for now.

I lived through the last ban and as a result have always had a surplus of mags, ammo on hand. The only things I purchased because of the possible ban is another R&R 20 round Saiga mag and some parts to complete another AR lower. I already had a JP upper on order before the shooting so that was not because of a possible ban just a planned purchase.
Pat

Kain

12-20-12, 22:40

Only thing that it has ****ed up here is that I can't find ammo in common calibers without people wanting two to four times what its worth. 5.56 at 1-3 dollars a round, 9mm $18+, .45ACP is about the same though and there isn't any .22lr to be bought. Still have plenty on hand though I need more 9mm and will order a case as soon as it comes in from one of my local dealers. Mags I am not too bad off on though I also subscribed to you can never have enough, but I am not pay $100+ for a ****ing Pmag local.

xjustintimex

12-20-12, 22:46

yes, Instead of buying more .308 match ammo I bought some more 556 and 9mm :/ my long range escapades will have to wait

theblackknight

12-21-12, 21:15

I was gonna shoot a 3 gun next week, but that would require 223,which faggots who never actually shoot are hording right now.My local shop always(even in normal panic times) has PMC for such a good price I dont need to order online.

In other news, I just need bullets and some other stuff and my press will be up and running.

SteveS

12-22-12, 17:29

I find other activities during these times.

7 RING

12-22-12, 17:38

We will be scheduling a lot more rimfire USPSA practice matches and bowling pin shoots at our club. This will be nothing new. When the price of ammunition first started to skyrocket a few years ago, we did the same thing.

Frailer

12-22-12, 17:48

HackerF15E

12-22-12, 18:07

It definitely is, but since I'm just a recreational shooter it isn't that big of a deal. I am holding on to all of the 5.56 and 9mm ammo I currently have based on future unknown availability, and I have just moved my shooting on to other calibers that don't seem to be caught up in the panic.

I needed a good excuse to go pick up the Garand again, and with 5.56 now selling at 2 x what I can buy surplus '06 for, it is a pretty easy financial switch. Funny, because a few weeks ago the opposite was true (I was reloading 5.56 for less than half what surplus '06 costs!).

milosz

12-24-12, 01:14

I'm going to shoot what I got and then start shooting a lot more .22 when I run out, if 9mm and 5.56 are still impossible to find.

No point in putting off shooting for a future where ammo is widely available and cheap. Either I'll be able to restock in March-April, or I won't.

Sean W.

12-24-12, 01:33

I just got into firearms as a hobby and an excuse to get out of the house to take carbine classes. This panic is completely new to me and I was hoping to finish my AR build by the end of the year. It looks like that is not going to happen since manufacturers and retailers are swamped with orders. My dad still can't find a BCG for his AR. Seems like I picked the wrong time to start a build.

RogerinTPA

12-24-12, 10:19

I'll probably put off or slow way down on formal training and hang on to my ammo until I see what happens with this new AWB bill that will be introduced in congress next month.

skydivr

12-24-12, 12:40

.22lr only until things calm down probably.....

Jesse Tischauser

01-01-13, 13:58

How can't the price of ammo effect your willingness to go shoot?

Ty_B

01-01-13, 17:59

Unless .223/5.56 ammo becomes more readily available in the next few months, it will affect the frequency of my practice sessions and the classes I take.

I can still get 9mm, so no problem there, but the only .223/5.56 I can get is expensive. No Wolf to be found.

red headed stranger

01-01-13, 23:36

After test driving a friend's PPQ for an extended time, I had made a decision to switch to that platform. In light of recent events, I am holding off on that purchase until I see how things shake out.

I already have a lot of Glock mags and accessories on hand, so it will be easy to stick with that platform. Ammo-wise, I am in good shape. I learned my lesson in 2009!

ramairthree

01-02-13, 06:18

ok, a lot in similar situation it seems.
plenty on hand, no need to panic,
but availability and costs to resupply make for some decrease in shooting.

glocktogo

01-02-13, 11:06

If the panic were affecting my plans, either my plan or its implementation would be flawed. :)

Seriously, the overall cost of ammo has forced me to cut back on centerfire shooting and replacing that with rimfire. I'm also in the middle of a 6.8 build and finding PRI 25rd mags is a hassle right now. Otherwise I'm cruising through this debacle fairly unaffected. :)

SteveS

01-02-13, 11:16

I find it easy and wise to not shoot when ammo is hard to find and IMO it is important to not waste the ammo.

PrivateCitizen

01-02-13, 11:27

Not hurting but the cost really makes it prohibitive … and I lose any catharsis it may have had.

I don't hear brass, I hear half-dollars hitting the ground. Damn thing is like a Nevada slot machine on Senior Tuesday

And, I can swear I see the ghost of Andrew Jackson on a mag swap.

Might have to look at a 22LR upper again …

Jesse Tischauser

01-07-13, 01:00

Well it really effected me today! I sold 4000 rounds of my match ammo for $3000. Now I'm going to buy a dillon 1050 and turn it into 10,000 rounds.

Ouroborous

01-07-13, 01:04

Well it really effected me today! I sold 4000 rounds of my match ammo for $3000. Now I'm going to buy a dillon 1050 and turn it into 10,000 rounds.

Well done man!

On topic:

I'll be loading a lot more Centerfire and Shooting it even less--that's why God made the M&P15-22:)

I advocated for my future self
and picked up 10k+ 22LR a few months back--that ought to get me through till things settle down.

gun71530

01-07-13, 01:29

I will be shooting mostly rimfire until either the panic subsides or I see what happens regarding a possible AWB.

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ramairthree

01-07-13, 06:29

Well it really effected me today! I sold 4000 rounds of my match ammo for $3000. Now I'm going to buy a dillon 1050 and turn it into 10,000 rounds.

wow, good plan.
i find the going rate people are paying for ars, mags, and ammo to be surprising. then again, i was good to go for a rainy day. the problem is indont want to use it all up on sunny days.

what really surprised me was how much I was offerered for a Belgian FA 49 30 06. (been giving some love to oldies at the range).

lurpygeek

01-07-13, 10:37

no still broke :lol:

This. Had a hard time affording things before. Still in the same boat.

ScottieG59

01-07-13, 11:03

I am stocked fairly well, but I have a few items on backorder. I am good with ammo and larger magazines, however, I am waiting for some 5 and 7 round mags for my XPs.

Right now, I will not allow my ammo stocks to go down and I buy for each session.

Also, with things getting scarce, I have spend thousands on a new high end safe and home security.

Amicus

01-07-13, 14:01

No, I'm still planning on eating cheesie poofs and watching porn.:lol:

Actually, I am going to eat porn and watch cheesie poofs. More interesting and better tasting that way. :bad:

I always knew there was a reason why I put Tech Sights on a 10/22. I just couldn't bring myself to buy a M&P .22.

BTL BRN

01-07-13, 15:14

I'll be loading a lot more Centerfire and Shooting it even less--that's why God made the M&P15-22:)

I advocated for my future self
and picked up 10k+ 22LR a few months back--that ought to get me through till things settle down.

I have about 6K CCI's that I will be taking advantage of, and I am thinking of purchasing a second 15-22; I am stocked OK on .223 but I am not willing to use much right now.

Shokr21

01-07-13, 16:03

I have enough ammo to compete and practice as usual for maybe 6-8 months. I have components to load another 6-8 months of ammo.

I'm confident that I'll be able to stretch this amount on hand to maybe mid 2014, but there's got to be light at the end of the tunnel for me to continue to shoot at my current pace or I'll switch to all .22 practice and cut my match attendance drastically.

Chromium4500

01-07-13, 17:47

Short answer: Yes.

As one of the over-taxed, hard working masses I choose to pay my bills before buying myself toys (strange, right?). Because of this there were many backlogged items that I had been meaning to purchase when more money was freed up. Instead, the end of December 2012 I just dumped a massive chunk of cash into spare parts, extra mags, ammo and a couple new guns that I had been pining for.

Honestly, no matter what legislation comes through 2013, I'm glad that I took the plunge and just did it.

signal 13

01-12-13, 02:21

I'm not shooting 3-gun until this panic dies down. It's ridiculous. And it sucks! If I can manage to get my hands on some ammo I'll do some shooting. Maybe this craze will keep everyone else from shooting and I'll finally be able to win a match!

Ouroborous

01-12-13, 14:21

I'm gonna take an upcoming Carbine class with the M&P15-22--got the green light from the instructor.

TomMcC

01-12-13, 23:48

I've got enough for my son and I to shoot 1 match a month for a year. But I would be close to zero reloads by then. I was hoping to restock components in about 6 mos.

6920Dreamer

01-13-13, 00:16

I had my next rig all picked out and was going to purchase with my refund check....now I can't event get my hands on Magpul 30Rd mags....going to a gun show next weekend.....hopefully I can pick up a few items :mad:

DMark

01-15-13, 00:03

My shooting was disrupted in 2009 by the post-election ammo buying frenzy. I vowed not to get caught with my pants down again.

Assuming ammo becomes available within the next couple of years I'll be OK.

Same here.

A year out of the last election, I began to stockpile 556/9mm/45ACP ammo and mags that went with them. For every box of ammo I shot at a match, I replaced it with two. I plan to shoot this year like the last. After that if it doesn't improve I can reduce by half in 2014 and go another two years.

Funny thing is that for once, being a cult follower of the .38 Super is working out for me. Its in stock. Just order another 1000 rounds for Midway last Thursday and it arrived today. Might have to shoot more ESP in IDPA than in the past.

ramairthree

01-15-13, 08:43

Same here.

A year out of the last election, I began to stockpile 556/9mm/45ACP ammo and mags that went with them. For every box of ammo I shot at a match, I replaced it with two. I plan to shoot this year like the last. After that if it doesn't improve I can reduce by half in 2014 and go another two years.

Funny thing is that for once, being a cult follower of the .38 Super is working out for me. Its in stock. Just order another 1000 rounds for Midway last Thursday and it arrived today. Might have to shoot more ESP in IDPA than in the past.

I noticed the same with 5.45.
(I have one AK for it)

I would have periods of cheap, plentiful ammo,
then dry spots here and there.

Lo and behold on the emply pallets of the LGS,
were still some surplus spam cans of it.

DMark

01-15-13, 09:55

I did the the AKs and its ammo deal in 2009-2010 once the 2008 panic cooled off.

I figured that since some un-named and un-elected ATF staffer on the Firearms Technology Branch could make a "rule" about the import of those items (wouldn't even need an Obama EO) that would be the area that the Libs would first go.

Still expect that will happen with Joe's recommendations for EOs.

Those tin cans of 5.45X39 might become the best investments I ever made.

FishingFool

01-15-13, 11:19

I'm done. Between the prices and stuff at my job I'm not shooting the action sports anymore for the next few years. Sold the dillon 650, sold the limited gun, selling my 3 gun rifle, sold the benelli and my belt rig.

On the bright side, Im reinvesting in a bolt gun and will get into the long range games. :)

DMark

01-15-13, 13:22

I'm done......

I understand. Happened to me. Wife, Kids, 94 AWB, Couple of Wars, etc., etc.

Just make sure that you return before you find out that you can no longer focus on the front sight. ;)

NWPilgrim

01-15-13, 14:09

Not much change for me. I have several thousand rounds and components for .223, .30-02, 9mm, .40 and .45 and half that for M1 Carbine, a truckload of .22LR and "enough" 12 ga and misc calibers.

I was stocking up gradually after 1994, and then accelerated more around 2005-2008. About the only difference is that I purchased an 8# keg of H335 just after Sandy Hook instead of waiting another couple of months. I'm only planning to purchase bargains this year which may be nothing, but most likely something used like a bolt or lever action or revolver just for fun.

I have not changed my shooting pace yet and should be able to keep it up for another year. If in a few months components have not recovered, then I will shift to more .22LR shooting time and more selective use of centerfire.

19852

01-16-13, 09:05

If this lasts longer it will. However, locally we had a recent IDPA match that set a record for participation at over 100 shooters. Get into reloading gents.

ramairthree

01-16-13, 19:13

yep, 5.45 still on the shelves locally,
no more spam cans but the paper wrapped 30 rounds from them.

30 cents a round is a good bit more than it used to be, but its there.

theblackknight

01-16-13, 23:07

Get into reloading gents.

Good luck finding SPP

Alaskapopo

01-17-13, 02:34

Ty_B

01-17-13, 07:30

Good luck finding SPP

Exactly, x1000

In my most humble opinion, there a few things that can and/or will help us greatly through this mess.

1) Companies that take back orders. Cabelas will do that for SPP. Thank God. There are a lot of things I hate about Cabelas, but I love this.

2) I hereby suggest that someone who's more savvy in the social media arts than I start a "Buy Half" campaign. Until this blows over, I suggest that we buy no more than 1/2 of the stock of ammo, primers, etc.

Part of the problem is there's a limited supply due to hoarding and people see empty shelves. Then when we see some product, we want to buy it all, and the next guy sees empty shelves and the cycle continues. If we buy only 1/2, there's more to go around, and it would reduce the panic. If that sounds socialist, I apologize, but I think it will help.

Lastly, and I hope this is a good sign, a Walmart near me had a lot of 9mm WWB yesterday, and no quantity restriction (and yes, I bought less than 1/2).

yellowfin

01-17-13, 09:37

I'm going to be all the more vigilant at the range to pick up brass, been stopping at tire shops to pick up wheel weights, and giving the Ruger .22's a LOT of attention. But I'm not going to let this stuff get me down, actually going to step up into IDPA and try to introduce more new shooters into gun ownership and Fudds into real gun ownership and activism. It's go big or go home, and I'm not up for giving up.

Alaskapopo

01-17-13, 14:17

Was able to get a 500 round box of Sierra 69 grain Match kings from Midway last night. But now there gone. Very hit or miss.
Pat

NWPilgrim

01-17-13, 16:15

I am in a bit of a situation. I have about 3500 FMJ bullets to load and about 2000 match bullets. My problem is I have had friends ask me to load them ammo and I agreed but I can't resupply right now. If I over extend I will not have enough for myself but I hate to see new shooters be without ammo. Am I being greedy by not wanting to load out ammo for others?
Pat

No, you are being prudent.

Maybe offer to load reduced levels for them, if at all. Everyone has to adapt to restricted inventories and they should be thrilled if you are willing to part with ANY supplies at all. Even if they are paying you I think it is generous to do that for them. If you don't provide anything at all that is just taking care of your own, like we all should have as first priority.

This is partly why prices are so high. Individuals and dealers that have stock to sell have no clue when it will be replaced and are only willing to part with what they have in hand at a steep price. So you can either ration the ammo at a normal price or offer it at a steep price and the buyers will chose their own ration level.

For a million bucks I am willing to part with several thousand rounds of components from my supplies. For $.50/rd or less, probably not a single round. Haven't given much thought to anything in between, but somewhere in between would be the balance point of a price I would be willing to part ammo with and someone willing to pay.

hatidua

01-17-13, 16:15

My fly rods are going to see a bit more action than usual :(

popo198

01-19-13, 07:48

Not really going to slow me down other than the fact that I will be mindful of not "wasting" ammo just playing around plinking instead of running productive drills/practice. I will save the plinking for range time with my son and use .22's.

ramairthree

01-19-13, 09:13

I did not take the son to a match the other week,
but heard they had a bigger than usual turnout.

I have no issues with guys buying a ton to stock up in case there are dry times ahead.

But, I think a bunch of people have bought a ton of stuff just to flip if they get a chance to make a buck.

I have seen some WSP magnum primers, but not WSP regular ones in a while.