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plutonium
12-20-12, 20:24
Hello everyone i am new and ignorant about the m4 weapon so bear with me ..i would like to know is it hard to install a midwest industries extended quad rail mctar 17x on a colt m4 calif approved model.. do i need any special tools ..... i think i read that i have to remove the delta ring do i need a gunsmith for this install:

!Nvasi0n
12-29-12, 15:38
I'd say if you we're building a new rifle, to install whatever you want...and go for it. But, not to sound negative, but if you are asking people on here if you should DIY...or if "special tools" are needed...then you probably don't have the tools or skill to safely pull it off.

On a positive note, most gunsmiths will charge less than you can buy the tools to DIY for. I'd save the stress and send er' off to a competent gunsmith.

ryr8828
12-29-12, 17:09
Here's a thread about it, says they just snap on.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=95

plutonium
12-29-12, 20:01
I'd say if you we're building a new rifle, to install whatever you want...and go for it. But, not to sound negative, but if you are asking people on here if you should DIY...or if "special tools" are needed...then you probably don't have the tools or skill to safely pull it off.

On a positive note, most gunsmiths will charge less than you can buy the tools to DIY for. I'd save the stress and send er' off to a competent gunsmith.

thanks boss went with the utg extended quad ...piece of cake 5 min install a lot easier than building my remote control heli from scratch... i dont like hammering on a gun barrel i dont care how it is secured to a work bench it might bend 1/1000 of an inch lol.......i dont know why colt made its forward sight with that pin to hold it in place

polymorpheous
12-29-12, 21:15
Why would you put an UTG rail on a Colt rifle?

Inkslinger
12-29-12, 21:49
i dont know why colt made its forward sight with that pin to hold it in place

Because that's the proper way to do it. Do yourself a favor and read the "stickies" at the top of the AR General and Technical sections.

aguila327
12-30-12, 05:54
It makes me wonder why somepeople even bother to ask for assistence?

3 AE
12-30-12, 06:46
It makes me wonder why somepeople even bother to ask for assistence?

Because they don't know what they don't know. We all have to start somewhere.

polymorpheous
12-30-12, 06:59
Yeah.
You should see my first thread!

One of two things will happen with these new members.
They get buttsore and leave the site, pissing and moaning about elitist this and unfriendly that...
OR
They stop posting for a while and read, a lot.
They shoot their rifles and learn from their mistakes.
They search through knowledge based threads to find the answers that those of us sought in the beginning.
They learn and become valuable members of this forum.

warner41
12-30-12, 09:09
A UTG drop in on a Colt, I just got a little sick in my mouth. But the upside is you still have a Colt and when the UTG fails and you do a little research hopefully you realize that DD and KAC both make very nice drop ins. Quality beats cheap everytime.

Good luck.

wetidlerjr
12-30-12, 12:12
A UTG drop in on a Colt, I just got a little sick in my mouth. But the upside is you still have a Colt and when the UTG fails and you do a little research hopefully you realize that DD and KAC both make very nice drop ins. Quality beats cheap everytime.
Good luck.

It's not a big deal as I have found that most people only learn from their mistakes. I have a small amount of expertise in the audio/stereo field and I have found that no matter what I say or how firmly I say it, only about 50% of those I give advise to heed it. Quite often, low price or a slick salesman will win out. In the end, it is not my money being wasted and everyone has just as much right to be wrong as the next guy.

plutonium
12-30-12, 12:52
Because they don't know what they don't know. We all have to start somewhere.
yes we do have to start somewhere i am new to gun technology and i will learn. so you pros cut me some slack for asking questions....i see some folks like to be rude to newbies but its cool it just shows a persons class everyone thanks for the info

plutonium
12-30-12, 12:59
It's not a big deal as I have found that most people only learn from their mistakes. I have a small amount of expertise in the audio/stereo field and I have found that no matter what I say or how firmly I say it, only about 50% of those I give advise to heed it. Quite often, low price or a slick salesman will win out. In the end, it is not my money being wasted and everyone has just as much right to be wrong as the next guy.
the utg is an extended free float i will use this gun for range shooting not war but this is a hobbie if the utg fails i will step up thanks guys still learning ..........

Inkslinger
12-30-12, 13:08
A thick skin is a prerequisite for this site. Also all members are encouraged to use the search feature. Believe it or not most questions people who are new to the AR have asked, have been asked before. Look on the bright side, at least you started off with an excellent rifle. That's more than I can say for myself, being a young buck with a brand new AWB and nothing but gunshop BS to guide me. We're in a new time with all the information available to us to help make an informed, educated decision. This site will be the best weapon in your arsenal. Hell, I didn't even have a computer when I bought my first AR.

plutonium
12-30-12, 13:10
Because they don't know what they don't know. We all have to start somewhere.

thank you could not have said it better and i am just starting but it wont take long.....have you ever seen where a person had a scope on top of the gun and a red dot right on the side of the scope with a tri rail..... i guess i am thinking outside the box i guess i am really going to get it for asking this question from the pros on this site

plutonium
12-30-12, 13:16
A thick skin is a prerequisite for this site. Also all members are encouraged to use the search feature. Believe it or not most questions people who are new to the AR have asked, have been asked before. Look on the bright side, at least you started off with an excellent rifle. That's more than I can say for myself, being a young buck with a brand new AWB and nothing but gunshop BS to guide me. We're in a new time with all the information available to us to help make an informed, educated decision. This site will be the best weapon in your arsenal. Hell, I didn't even have a computer when I bought my first AR.

thanks i will keep that in mind and ignore ignorant macho statements and yes i happen to talk to the right person before buying the colt m4..but also this is just a hobbie and i will do more research on this unit i have a .223

aguila327
12-30-12, 13:17
Never hesitate to ask questions, thats what the thick skin is for. My comment was a result of a late night and ease of finding the answer which led to bad judgement-Sorry.:o

It usually shocks me when I see how some newbies are treated here for not searching for the answer first. Now I understand a little, but still feel that asking is always better.

wetidlerjr
12-30-12, 14:24
the utg is an extended free float i will use this gun for range shooting not war but this is a hobbie if the utg fails i will step up thanks guys still learning ..........

Not being "rude" or "macho" but I know what it is and if you had done some research or asked about it you would have known, also. As I said, it's YOUR money.
This isn't your run-of-the-mill internet gun site and some people here may be short in their answers but it is for your own good.

plutonium
12-30-12, 20:37
Not being "rude" or "macho" but I know what it is and if you had done some research or asked about it you would have known, also. As I said, it's YOUR money.
This isn't your run-of-the-mill internet gun site and some people here may be short in their answers but it is for your own good.

makes sense that is what im doing reseaching for info and knowledge with you guys... i did do some research on the utg quad ...now i am sure some people lie but some said it can hold up pretty fairly but soon i will get a midwest ind extended quad and pay a gunsmith to install it. i am learning more everyday...... lot of info on the internet the reason i joined this site is because it concentrates on my gun....and it is not a run of the mill site.... that much i know for sure thanks

avangeline
12-31-12, 03:52
Never hesitate to ask questions, thats what the thick skin is for.
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wetidlerjr
12-31-12, 10:26
makes sense that is what im doing reseaching for info-Snip!-that much i know for sure thanks

Also, get a better camera and brush up on your grammar as I find it difficult to read your posts with all the "..." and lack of actual sentences.