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SMGLee
01-22-12, 20:27
Please visit HK USA (http://www.hk-usa.com/index.asp)

I am going to kick off this year's SHOT pictures with HK, especially with the ultra slick HK G28 sniper rifle.

Huge thanks for Mr. Weber for allowing me to photograph their booth this year.

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The locking screw is to secure the stock for a solid lock up of the stock to the buffer tube. but this feature will eliminate the collapsing option.

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SMGLee
01-22-12, 20:37
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SMGLee
01-22-12, 20:42
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SMGLee
01-22-12, 20:51
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SMGLee
01-22-12, 22:04
Please visit Knights Armament (http://www.knightarmco.com/)


Great big thanks to KAC for allowing me to photograph the booth at SHOT this year.

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RogerinTPA
01-22-12, 22:05
Looks like HK has some nice toys coming out. Awesome pics as usual SMGLee.

SMGLee
01-22-12, 22:08
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Titleist
01-22-12, 22:15
Buying one of those 14.5" uppers, minus the lower, to have pinned with a SF K brake. That with an SR-15 lower should be nice.

SMGLee
01-22-12, 22:16
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The extremely short and absolutely brand new 308 can by KAC features a end cap flash hider to eliminate any signature that might have exit the suppressor.

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Mr. Knight's [url=http://www.instmiltech.com/]Institute of military Technology[/url is to collect, preserve, and interpret historically significant properties relating to the technical and tactical development of armored warfare. The museum also collects vehicles and other memorabilia that have significance for both military and civilian. IMT does not glorify war but is focused on the education and preservation of these disciplines for future generations.

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MOTIVATE the public to take a more vested interest in preserving military history so the story of how and why modern day designs were achieved.

Pleaase click on the link above to learn more about this wonderful museum

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Mr. Knight, the man himself and I....

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Mr. Trey Knight and Kevin Boland taking time off their busy schedule to pose with me.

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Ginger at KAC posing with the latest gun rag, Recoil. look forward to article by this new greed of gun magazine.

QuietShootr
01-22-12, 22:40
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Does ITAR concern itself with photos taken of defense articles by non-US nationals, or is that sign just "Keep Out, Vicious Dogs" bullshit?

buckjay
01-22-12, 22:40
Awesome photos brother, its much appreciated!

Javelin
01-22-12, 22:42
Wow very nice!

I wonder how heavy they are though. They look heavy.

SMGLee
01-22-12, 22:49
Wow very nice!

I wonder how heavy they are though. They look heavy.

HEAVY

Shokr21
01-22-12, 22:54
Awesome pictures, thanks!

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-22-12, 23:12
Why are they all tied down?

thmpr
01-22-12, 23:21
Wow...!

ALCOAR
01-22-12, 23:27
SMGLee...thanks so much for always doing such a spectacular job with all these SHOT pics.

Apparently HK didn't get the memo....Skinny Jeans are the rage right now, those rifles look soooo heavy, the rails on the 416/417 rifles really have me scratching my head.

Thankfully those don't get me at all excited since we can't even own them as U.S. civies anyways. Either way, I'm still a 100% HK handgun guy so I'm not a total hater:)

obucina
01-22-12, 23:33
the gray and green guns look nifty. Florida Gun Exchange always brings a tan SR-15 to every gun show, its a joy to handle....KAC does a really good job with the coloration.

anyhow, does the triple tap equipped gun have a background story?

Freedoooom
01-22-12, 23:33
So those new suppressors are in 5.56 too?

Also good ole KAC, just a buy a damn PRS and be done with it, stop pushing that retarded stock on the military.

thebob24
01-22-12, 23:36
I guess they're letting the PDW die since nobody is interested in the caliber they made for it (or made the PDW for).

Too bad it looked like a nice design. :(

snakedoctor
01-22-12, 23:38
Thanks for the pics. What pack you sporting there?

tdoom15
01-23-12, 01:32
How many headshots to get the gold camo? :p

ALCOAR
01-23-12, 02:13
I guess they're letting the PDW die since nobody is interested in the caliber they made for it (or made the PDW for).

Too bad it looked like a nice design. :(

It's a f**king TRAGEDY...the 6x35mm certainly isn't a paper tiger either. I sick and tired of wanting a PDW to be perfectly honest, but the more I can't have it, the greater my affinity grows for it:(

The KAC LP rifle/upper is a very, very nice addition to the lineup!

trinydex
01-23-12, 03:36
All their stuff looks heavy

Kain
01-23-12, 03:50
Nice pics!

I like the adjustable stocks on the G36s. Was always my biggest issue with the G36s that I got to shoot, in just light clothes they were pretty easy to shoulder and shoot, with anything heavy though they really kind of sucked to get a proper fit for the rifle. Looks quite good too.

Heartbreaker
01-23-12, 04:48
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vicious_cb
01-23-12, 06:05
As for moving all those controls INSIDE the trigger guard of the G36, Id rather have them in an unergonomic position than an unsafe one.

Jake0331
01-23-12, 06:28
Thanks for posting these. Did they give you any lead times on when these become available? What do you think of the new URXIII panel accessories?

Velcro
01-23-12, 09:12
SMGLee, thank you for the start of the incredible pics that are coming from your camera to our homes or duty posts!!!

I really like the attempt to have the telescoping stock to the G36, although it looks a bit off compared to the originals, but that its adjusting and still a skeleton stock is nice...but I will keep my original for now~!


Velcro

montrala
01-23-12, 11:28
How many headshots to get the gold camo? :p

As a trivia, color scheme on G28 is same camo color that used by Rommel's Afrika Korps in WWII. This is what Bundeswehr requested for use in A-stan - not HK's idea.

Titleist
01-23-12, 11:58
And some of the guns were tied down to avoid folks opening them up. Some guns were available to handle behind the counter if you asked.

UDT
01-23-12, 11:59
Thanks for the pics, a great job as always.

CQC.45
01-23-12, 13:36
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What is the length of that URX III? 13+"?

mtdawg169
01-23-12, 15:50
What is the length of that URX III? 13+"?

URX 3.1 is 13.5", no integral front sight.

Fr3EK
01-23-12, 16:02
Words cannot express the beauty of that SBR. I'm broke again....

Titleist
01-23-12, 17:04
Thanks for posting these. Did they give you any lead times on when these become available? What do you think of the new URXIII panel accessories?

The panels at the show were machined, just to get them ready in time. The result is that I personally thought they were extremely aggressive to the point of chewing up my hands.

Now that said, the finished ones will be molded which means they'll still be aggressive but won't be sharp. I still like the Delrin handstop, as I wear a glove and like the rails as thin as possible. But as a production items it's a cool idea all things considered.

Germanfritze
01-23-12, 18:26
@Heartbreaker,
thumbs up from Germany:thank_you2:!

montrala
01-23-12, 19:01
Does ITAR concern itself with photos taken of defense articles by non-US nationals, or is that sign just "Keep Out, Vicious Dogs" bullshit?

ITAR is not only about goods itself. It is also about design, parameters, how it works, etc. If something did not notice fall of communism, ITAR for sure did not.

Spooky130
01-23-12, 20:37
Whew... I was getting worried there would be no SMGLee SHOT Show pics...

I am digging all the HK stocks. The G28 looks like a boat anchor weight wise. I'd still use one if they gave it to me!

Any dirt on the MR762?

Spooky

Jake0331
01-23-12, 22:37
Thanks, Titleist - I'd like to try the molded ones out when they become available. I think I'd probably agree about just going with the handstop, though.

Spooky130
01-23-12, 22:47
I really like the slick URX with the panel add ons. I wonder what the actual weight difference is though.

Trunkmonkey4
01-23-12, 22:56
Any word on if the uppers (5.56) will be available separate? I am mainly interested in the 16 inch and 11.5 inch.

I have a SBR'd lower here that I would love to put the 11.5 on to then I would have no problem buying the 16inch gun. Just really do not want to go threw the NFA line again.

Titleist
01-23-12, 23:11
SBRs will be sold as upper kits only. Not sure on the non-SBRs but I believe so. I'll probably get the 14.5, have it perm attached (upper) with a K brake, and then buy another SR-15 lower.

jonconsiglio
01-23-12, 23:14
From the images, it appears the 14.5" is using the same length gas system as the 16" SR15, correct? That URX 3.1 rail with a 14.5" barrel is pretty slick.

Edit - looking at the image again, it's pretty obvious that it's the same length gas system.

Trunkmonkey4
01-23-12, 23:17
It appears so, mid length that is.

Titleist: When you say kits, ie, buy it then send to some one to build it?

Titleist
01-23-12, 23:35
It appears so, mid length that is.

Titleist: When you say kits, ie, buy it then send to some one to build it?

Sorry I mean complete uppers.

jonconsiglio
01-24-12, 00:23
It appears so, mid length that is.

Titleist: When you say kits, ie, buy it then send to some one to build it?

It's actually a bit longer than mid length (slightly longer than intermediate as well), it's the same as their SR25. I had two SR15's and they ran fine for the most part, it just seems there'd be very little dwell time with that gas system and a 14.5" barrel.

I'm also assuming the barrel in the 14.5" is the same as the 16" in their SR15 16" e3?

I'm curious how this barrel performs. Mine weren't the most accurate but they ran fine.

JChops
01-24-12, 00:57
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Integrated 300M rear sight and slick side... Oh, the amazing projects I could build with that upper receiver.

Wolvee
01-24-12, 00:58
I wish HK would have had more new this year ready for Shot but it's good to seen some great pics. Thanks for the pics.

echang86
01-24-12, 01:50
I like the dimpled rail panel and hand stop on the SR-25 ECC and the dimpled pistol grip on the SBR. Anybody know if they plan on releasing that to the market?

mtdawg169
01-24-12, 06:40
It's actually a bit longer than mid length (slightly longer than intermediate as well), it's the same as their SR25. I had two SR15's and they ran fine for the most part, it just seems there'd be very little dwell time with that gas system and a 14.5" barrel.

I'm also assuming the barrel in the 14.5" is the same as the 16" in their SR15 16" e3?

I'm curious how this barrel performs. Mine weren't the most accurate but they ran fine.

The barrel on the 14.5 is dimpled. I'll have to dig around to see if I can find any other details.

montrala
01-24-12, 07:45
Any dirt on the MR762?


Do you mean different, that it will ship to dealers within month or so and MSRP is $3995?

LAWMENS
01-24-12, 10:38
I guess they're letting the PDW die since nobody is interested in the caliber they made for it (or made the PDW for).

Too bad it looked like a nice design. :(

Actually we are not letting this program die, we are still currently active with these systems.

eodinert
01-24-12, 12:16
Looks like HK copied tango downs rail panels.

Jmacken37
01-24-12, 12:36
Nice pics. Thanks SMGLee!

Jake

BC98
01-24-12, 14:10
Any news on whether a mid-length URX III rail will be available? If so, rough idea on when? Looking to replace the DD rail I currently have on my SBR and this would be my top candidate...

mfw
01-24-12, 14:36
Does ITAR concern itself with photos taken of defense articles by non-US nationals, or is that sign just "Keep Out, Vicious Dogs" bullshit?

I work with ITAR every day. The sign was marketing, pure and simple. Sure, the weapons are export controlled as are things like the workings of their sights and other types of data (e.g. models and simulation code). However, if an item is visually sensitive you can't display it at an trade show (a non-US Person might see it [a photograph is not required] and bingo! Export violation).

Neat blasters, though.

mfw

TMS951
01-24-12, 15:12
Any details on this one? Is it 5.56? Is that an 8" barrel? Does it use the cartridge from the PDW?

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markm
01-24-12, 15:15
The AR platform just went Hip Hop. Gold Rims and Gold TEEF to go wit doze gunz!

Shark
01-24-12, 16:09
Looks like HK copied tango downs rail panels.

That, or TD made them for HK.

mtdawg169
01-24-12, 16:12
Any details on this one? Is it 5.56? Is that an 8" barrel? Does it use the cartridge from the PDW?

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I think it's an AR chambered for the pdw cartridge. They showed one last year that was supposed to be marketed to LE.

Titleist
01-24-12, 16:15
SR635 if I recall.

pointblank4445
01-24-12, 16:28
SMG,

What kind of reticle did the Germans opt for in the 3-20x optic?

SMGLee
01-24-12, 16:52
Great big thanks to Lynsey Thompson, Mike Mers, John Hollister, and that cool cat with the bread.....

With the sudden departure of the great leader at AAC, the company are going to head toward an unknown path in the foreseeable future. Meantime.....

The best looking, and mostly likely one of the best performing(hope to be shooting it in the neear future) suppressor on the market. the new AAC SR5 and SR7.

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The Beauty that is the SR5/SR7 suppressor.

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SR5 is the 5.56 and the SR7 is the 7.62 optimized for the 300 blackout, it will also work with 7.62x39 or 7.62x51

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080025.jpg

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Experimental one off suppressor build to demonstrate the positive lockup of just using the acme style thread on the AAC flash hider, with a firm torque to tighten the experimental can, the can attach to the flash hider thread with a solid lock up, it took me with two hands and the gun between my leg for leverage to get that experimental can detached. this is just using the thread...amazing.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080041.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080064.jpg
New flash hider with a slight different design.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080097.jpg
Compare to the original 51T flash hider.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080095.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080044.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080045.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080046.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080047.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080048.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080049.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080050.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080051.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080023.jpg

SMGLee
01-24-12, 16:57
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080054.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080055.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080056.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080057.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080088.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080089.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080090.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080072.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080073.jpg
Compare to the original 51T flash hider.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080074.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080068.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080069.jpg
Colt's 22LR rail gun with AAC's 22 can.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080046.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080077.jpg
TiRant standard and short.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080078.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080079.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080080.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080081.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080083.jpg

SMGLee
01-24-12, 17:01
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080085.jpg
NSWC Mk23 in full display

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080034.jpg
Noveske's new rail. this rail is not a standard install piece, it will require it to be purchased as a upper or a hole drilled in the upper receiver to instll the anti rotation pin.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080037.jpg
Notice the anti rotation pin above the gas tube.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080029.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080031.jpg
locking lugs on the accessory piece that locks into the rail.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080040.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080042.jpg

montrala
01-24-12, 17:07
That, or TD made them for HK.

HK makes this panel for years (6 at least if remember correctly) for HK416. But I do not know who was first.

BC98
01-24-12, 17:24
Any details on this one? Is it 5.56? Is that an 8" barrel? Does it use the cartridge from the PDW?

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080323.jpg

The lower reads it as a 5.56 SR-16 but not sure about the upper...

Titleist
01-24-12, 17:31
It's an upper receiver and magazine kit. Cheaper to do that then make a custom marked lower since it IS a kit.

SMGLee
01-24-12, 17:50
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090630.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090631.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090632.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090633.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090634.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090636.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090637.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090639.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090640.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090641.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090642.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090643.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070938.jpg
Daniel Defense's answer to the HK 416 rail....

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070939.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070940.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070942.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070943.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070944.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070945.jpg

TMS951
01-24-12, 18:27
It would be very nice in .300blk

Titleist
01-24-12, 18:49
It would be very nice in .300blk

Buy an AAC 300BLK then. They come with 8" URX IIIs.

SMGLee
01-24-12, 18:58
Please visit Remington Military (http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070947.jpg
Some minor but detail changes to the new Remington ACR. the latest offering by Remington has at least resolved the weight issue. the new ACR are about as light as a DI gas M4. very impressive.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070948.jpg
Some changes to the rail system

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070950.jpg
New retractable charging handle

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070946.jpg
Revised folding stock

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070951.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070953.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070954.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070955.jpg
The black ACR is the previous year model, you can clearly see the modifications to the 2012 model.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070956.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070957.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070958.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070962.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070963.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070968.jpg
The quick release barrel are deleted in the name of weight saving. a standard barrel nut takes place of the ratchet style QD barrel nut

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070971.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070972.jpg
Detail look at the new folding stock

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070973.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070974.jpg
Detail look at the new rail

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070975.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070964.jpg

SMGLee
01-24-12, 19:01
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080006.jpg
Skeletonized trigger guard

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080007.jpg
Revised safety

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080008.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080009.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080010.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080011.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070967.jpg
R5 gas piston M4 carbine

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070969.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070970.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070965.jpg
R4 DI gas carbine, check out the new rail. slick

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070966.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070976.jpg
R10 Gas piston 308 precision rifle.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070977.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070978.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070980.jpg
cooling fans

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070992.jpg
I can never get tired of the MSR. what a beauty

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070993.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070985.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070988.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070989.jpg

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-24-12, 19:08
I see a 308 lets get some details on that?

SMGLee
01-24-12, 19:18
give me some time.

I am using the copy and paste method....LOL

SMGLee
01-24-12, 19:22
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070984.jpg
MSR vs the M2010

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080001.jpg
MSR bolt take down. modular design to enable ease of caliber conversion

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080002.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080003.jpg
R10 Gas piston 308 precision rifle.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080004.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080005.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070986.jpg
RACS chassis

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070987.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070990.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070995.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070996.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070997.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070998.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070999.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080017.jpg
Bushmaster's take on the 9mm SMG(Lee...LOL), 3 lug barrel to take advantage of the HK MP5 accessories.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080014.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080013.jpg

nml
01-24-12, 20:18
Which pic? I'm not seeing a 308.

jonconsiglio
01-24-12, 20:20
I see the 300, but not the 308.. Which image is it?

nml
01-24-12, 20:24
ACR looks to be the first gun that let's you select from subsonic and supersonic loadings on the fly, http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070954.jpg

OTO27
01-24-12, 20:29
I want the new Remington ACR with removable A2 grip and skeletonized rail!!!! please remington make the real ACR available to civies!!!

SMGLee
01-24-12, 20:29
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080358.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080360.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080397.jpg
You could never get tired of some belt fed and the good ole SCAR 17

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080391.jpg
FN's new PSR Ballista, this was on dsplayed last year at SHOT, no pictures were allowed during the 2011 show, but this year, FN rep was breaking this puppy down for all to see.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080361.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080362.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080363.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080366.jpg
The quick detach butt stock with grip safety build into the grip.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080367.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080368.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080369.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080371.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080372.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080374.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080375.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080378.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080379.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080381.jpg

SMGLee
01-24-12, 20:36
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080383.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080384.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080386.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080387.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080389.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080390.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080392.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080394.jpg
the bolt breaks down quickly and easily for a speedy caliber change

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P10803957.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080396.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080369.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090192.jpg
The new strike action FN FNS. the trigger reminiscent of the Smith Wesson M&P/Sigma.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090193.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090194.jpg
40SW FNS in stainless and black finish

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090195.jpg
Comparing the 40SW slide to the slimmer 9mm slide

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090195.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090196.jpg
Black finish 9mm FNS vs. the stainless finish FNS 40SW.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090197.jpg
The trigger feels good, almost like the original Glock17 before they started shipping with the 8lbs spring. the reset are better than the non-existence M&P. overall the gun feels good int he hand, the trigger pull are good enough for defensive use but still crisp enough for accuracy. pending the price, it might be a worthy alternative to the Glock and S&W.

lowcountrytj
01-24-12, 20:46
Great pictures!

SMGLee
01-24-12, 20:47
This year's SHOT was no different than last. a lot of interesting products, but the spread of the SHOT placed Tactical section all over the convention center, which making my job non-easier. although I do feel the attendance was definitely up from last year.

Few things of interest as I continue to post the pictures by companies.

HK----HK G28 sniper rifle, only two in the country and they were on full displayed at SHOT.

Daniel Defense---alternative rail for the HK 416

AAC---SR5/7 suppressor, and the Noveske NSR rail/upper, with the very interesting KeyMod accessory adapter concept.

Remington----Much revised ACR, also reduced weight making this rifle a serious contender for a great combat/defense rifle.

KAC---New 308 can with a new attachment design, plus the ultra-cool M110 carbine.


I will continue to update this post as more companies are posted. this year I took a total of 1950 pictures from 48 companies....hope you will enjoy them.

Thanks for taking you time to see those post. and if you see something interesting, please contact those companies and tell them you saw it on M4C, it will make my job easier in future SHOT shows.

Thanks again and enjoy

Buck
01-24-12, 20:54
SMG Lee

Thanks for all of your efforts in bringing the best of SHOT back to M4C... I am seeing stuff in your pictures that I missed at SHOT, and I was there..

S/F

B

wilco423
01-24-12, 20:58
What flash hider is that in the close up? Looks similar to their suppressor friendly mount on their website, but different.

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-24-12, 21:11
THe R10 is interesting except for the DPMS style serations on the upper.

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-24-12, 21:15
Gee I didnt read the little signs the 300 blk looks like it has the big pmag in it I guss I made and assumption based on desire

eternal24k
01-24-12, 21:37
Thanks Lee,
I always look forward to your pics

sr71plane
01-24-12, 21:40
Thanks for going to the trouble to post these pictures for us all to enjoy.

TehLlama
01-24-12, 22:08
The MSR and and R4-MagPul (with an MOE+ and STR stock) would be viable civilian models. The XM2010 dropin setups are pretty awesome looking as well, not sure how much that gains over from the 5R700's with the 2.0AICS kits.

But seriously, of those, the R4 is the only one I'd consider unless an MSR at a good price point with a Leupold Mk6/Mk8 on it.

TCBA_Joe
01-24-12, 22:26
It would be very nice in .300blk
So would the PDW

wild_wild_wes
01-24-12, 23:02
What's the deal with this gas block?
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070944.jpg

Low-profile with bayonet lug? Base for folding sight too?

sgtrock82
01-24-12, 23:07
Looks HK to me


Look at one of the photos above, its an HK 416 upper on a DD lower

wild_wild_wes
01-24-12, 23:11
Weird! DD makes their own stuff. Why borrow components from HK?

DeltaSierra
01-24-12, 23:15
Weird! DD makes their own stuff. Why borrow components from HK?

Because, DD is showing off their new rail for the HK416...

SMGLee
01-24-12, 23:16
What's the deal with this gas block?
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1070944.jpg

Low-profile with bayonet lug? Base for folding sight too?

That is a HK 416 gas block/gas regulator.

huntsimp
01-24-12, 23:25
When and where will the 14.5 rifle/upper be available for purchase or pre-order??

jsummers
01-24-12, 23:40
Doesn't DD also make parts of the civi HK rifles here?

thebob24
01-25-12, 00:01
I would actually pay the Bushmaster price for the Rem. ACR-C!:D haha

Ohh i'm laughing and crying... poor Masada...what happened?

Titleist
01-25-12, 00:02
DD makes many of the barrels for even the LE 416s.

Having shot that specific gun on the media day, it does not feel like a 416. It feels like a completely different gun. That rail wasn't on display in the booth either.

MikeCLeonard
01-25-12, 00:17
Anyone know if they ever plan on releasing that R5 g/p M4 for someone to actually buy?

Wolvee
01-25-12, 00:39
I love this time of year. Everyone comes back from shot with some great pictures of stuff I'm going to spend my money on for the rest of the year. :D

Velcro
01-25-12, 00:47
why do these companies think that a hinged trigger on pistols is a good thing!!!


Velcro

armakraut
01-25-12, 02:08
That is a HK 416 gas block/gas regulator.

I'd buy it if they went a little shorter on the rail so people can use the HK folding front sight and sling loops.

David_B
01-25-12, 02:23
Great work as usual, SMG Lee. I look forward to seeing the rest of your photos.

Magic_Salad0892
01-25-12, 04:26
Will the MAMS system actually be available in 5.56mm?

Will the URX 3.1 be made in a 10 3/4'' length?

montrala
01-25-12, 05:51
Doesn't DD also make parts of the civi HK rifles here?

DD finishes barrel blanks made in Germany and (not sure 100% on this one) makes railed handguards for MR556A1.


I'd buy it if they went a little shorter on the rail so people can use the HK folding front sight and sling loops.

All 3 new handguards for HK416 (DD, Geisselle and Remington Defense) cover gas block in way that prevent use of folding front sight and require removal of sling loops. I see pattern here, maybe this is what users want?


DD makes many of the barrels for even the LE 416s.

This is new for me. AFAIK only barrel for HK firearm that is finished (not made, just finished) outside HK are barrels for MR556A1 and MR762. Unless you mean non-OFM replacement barrels.

mig1nc
01-25-12, 06:45
So, what did they manage to get the weight down to on the ACR?

Is there going to be a way for a Civie to buy one of the new revised versions?

JPB
01-25-12, 09:54
please remington make the real ACR available to civies!!!

The guy I spoke with at the Remington Defense booth indicated that changes to this effect were in the pipeline...

Neville
01-25-12, 10:15
You ROCK!!!!!!!!!! :dance3:

UDT
01-25-12, 10:17
Thanks, for doing this it is appreciated.

train of abuses
01-25-12, 10:55
Great photos. Thanks! The FNS does seem to have potential to be a good glock or m&p alternative.

padkeemow
01-25-12, 11:00
Is that the long distance precision version of the SCAR?
No. It's not manufactured by FNH, they're just importing it. It's made by Unique Alpine.

It also weighs about 17lbs. O_o

mark5pt56
01-25-12, 11:04
Liking that rifle, need to look into it some more.

hkhunter
01-25-12, 11:51
much appreciated! thank you

carolvs
01-25-12, 12:08
Hi Chen,

Thanks for the pics of the FNS. How does the trigger compare to the Walther PPQ?

Pappabear
01-25-12, 12:55
Liking that rifle, need to look into it some more.

Yea, liking that rifle a lot. Looks kinda like the new Barrett. MRAD.

train of abuses
01-25-12, 13:25
padmenow,

Thanks for the answer! I actually edited my post above when I looked at the photo again. That rifle does look interesting!

jonconsiglio
01-25-12, 14:11
That rifle does look interesting. I'm thinking of selling my Barretts and buying one nice precision rifle. I like the idea of a quick caliber change, though I'm not sure how much I'd utilize that.

citadelshooter
01-25-12, 14:51
What about the rail on the Bushmaster 9mm. Any word on if that is going to be available as a separate item to purchase?

charmcitycop
01-25-12, 14:58
.....

BUBBAGUNS
01-25-12, 16:18
I like the R4 and the R5. I also like the removable grip on the new ACR.

SMGLee
01-25-12, 18:41
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080218.jpg
this is still one of the most beautiful carbine on the market, now a revised receiver and rail interface to create a much stiffer platform. LWRC introduce the new M6 IC-SPR. This gun features a mid length piston to delay the quick piston impulse therefore eliminate some of the early bolt unlocking under pressure issue common with the carbine piston system. and a lack of an adjustable gas regulator will help with lowering cost.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080214.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080216.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080221.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080220.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1080222.jpg

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Comparison of the last generation SPR vs. the latest IC-SPR. you can defintely notice the integrated rail system

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Magazine well flare on the new IC-SPR

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Adjustable gas IC-SPR, it is supposedly build under request from a spec Ops unit that require use of suppressor. The IC-SPR and the AAC SR5 makes a lovely combo.

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SMGLee
01-25-12, 18:46
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SMGLee
01-25-12, 18:47
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Defender3
01-25-12, 19:55
I was at SHOT and the 3-Gun Championship hosted by FNH USA. They had a speed shoot with the FNS, I think it was "Smoke and Hope," five plate targets as quickly as possible. I shot 5.58sec having to re-engage the first target and actually won one of the FNS pistols (one of 10 FNH USA gave away). Thank goodness for the Lewis scoring system. :D I can't wait to get it in and see how it feels against my PPS.

SMGLee
01-25-12, 20:31
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this is Tangodown's new product for NSWC/SOCOM. this new ammo box completely remove the unnecessary steps of unzipping the current ammo pouch, drop in the belt and retrive the starter tap from the other side of the ammo pouch/box and charge the weapon.

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When the ammo ran dry, the operator just simply pop open the attached ammo box, retrive the pre-packaged belt already packaged in the cardboard box shipped from Lake City. drop it into the box and pull the starter tap to charge the gun. simple and elegant.

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Comparison shot of the current issue ammo box.

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Tangodown accessories on FN SCAR Mk16Mod0

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Tangodown's own version of the SCAR charging handle

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Tangodown improve the FN SCAR's stock latch by replacing the existing plastic button with a metal machined unit.

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Interesting concept, a rotating grip for those that work the close protection detail, where a SUL position for keeping the muzzle depressed can create some uncomfortable wrist angle. this rotating grip help with eliminating some of that awkward waist angle.

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SMGLee
01-25-12, 20:31
US PALMS

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45 round quad stack magazine...commissioned by US Palm and design and manufacturer by TangoDown, a 30 rounder is also available.

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This is by far one of the best AK chest pouch I have used. angled slot for ease of magazine grab, and level 3 internal panels, MOLLE side for you to add any extra pouches or gear carrier. map pouch in the center along with two pistol mag pouch which i use for flash light and a multitool.

SMGLee
01-25-12, 20:49
SOD, an Italian designer of finer combat gear. every one know how cool it is to have a tailor made Italian suit, the fit the workmanship and the updated fashion design. well, SOD bring all that into the combat gear design. once you tried a SOD design combat shirt, pants or jacket, you will never go back. it is that good. SOD is gearing up for Us production this year. your wait for SOD shall be answered soon.

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SMGLee
01-25-12, 21:11
LWRC---Brand new M6 IC-SPR carbine series...

TangoDown/US Palms-----30 and 45rds quad stack AK magazines

SureFire--New X400 with green laser, new ultra high output head lamp and brand new watch.

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My friend Scott Wilson with the new X400 GRN

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Surefire's new short 308 can optimized for 300 blackout. you can see the comparison shot of the standard can vs. the new shorter version.

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Tango Down
01-25-12, 21:23
The US PALM AK-QS magazines are only in 30 and 45 round capacities.

SMGLee
01-25-12, 21:26
Elite Defense, Arms exporter and distributor founded only three years ago in the States are a force to be reckoned with. Dennis Finnegan started the company with a 16k annual sales in 2009 and grew to a mega 16 million in 2011. Elite not only are one of the best and trusted arms exporter in the States, they are also distributor of fine gear and goods for the world market. now they are making waves in the mount business. this QD lever design are one of the best I have seen so far, slim, and low profile, but at the same time, it locks solidly in place and provide a secure worry free lock up. look forward to more mounts and devices that will be designed and based on this QD level. I have been asked countless times on what i thought was one of the best product at SHOT this year. This mount rank high on my list.

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R0CKETMAN
01-25-12, 22:04
Wonderful and thanks for taking the time.

wild_wild_wes
01-25-12, 22:05
DD has their own cold hammer forging barrel machine.

Spooky130
01-25-12, 22:22
That lock seems very well thought out - small but looks like it would be very effective...

Spooky

Timberwolf
01-25-12, 23:08
Awesome.

Hunter Rose
01-25-12, 23:14
Daniel Defense probably has some sort of hold hamless/non-compete clause in their business relationship with HK, but it would be nice if DD made CHF, lighter weight profile, chrome lined/nitrided replacement barrels for the MR556/HK416 civilian market since it is doubtful HK will.

I am planning on seeing just how much use the MR556's barrel can take, but it would be nice to know there was a source for replacement barrels out there other than the super heavy standard MR556 factory barrel that needs 3rd party re-profiling.

Winnerkd
01-25-12, 23:26
I would like to know if HK is going to offer a HK416 upper to civilians, I remember hearing *something* about a new upper being sold, but maybe it's just a diffident configuration of the MR556.

David_B
01-25-12, 23:33
I understood SOD had been working on US production/distribution last year. If it comes to fruition this year I will indeed be pleased. The weak dollar and overseas shipping costs have been a huge detraction from ordering their gear. Did they provide information more specific than that which you already stated? Production "this year" sounds deliberately vague.

Doc Maker
01-25-12, 23:50
I was in meetings a lot but I got to see a few good things...
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Blackbart
01-26-12, 01:57
I understood SOD had been working on US production/distribution last year. If it comes to fruition this year I will indeed be pleased. The weak dollar and overseas shipping costs have been a huge detraction from ordering their gear. Did they provide information more specific than that which you already stated? Production "this year" sounds deliberately vague.

Hope they are able to see the US production come true.

This is a great step forward. After I spoke with Tango Down last year they had the get it from Italy option as the only choice, and it was not cheap.

Military Moron has a good run down on their product line at his site.

montrala
01-26-12, 06:23
DD has their own cold hammer forging barrel machine.

And? I'm not a rapist just because I have equipment for it ;)


Daniel Defense probably has some sort of hold hamless/non-compete clause in their business relationship with HK, but it would be nice if DD made CHF, lighter weight profile, chrome lined/nitrided replacement barrels for the MR556/HK416 civilian market since it is doubtful HK will.

I am planning on seeing just how much use the MR556's barrel can take, but it would be nice to know there was a source for replacement barrels out there other than the super heavy standard MR556 factory barrel that needs 3rd party re-profiling.

Just about anyone can make replacement barrel for MR556/HK416. Take unfinished barrel blank, turn it to desired profile, fit HK barrel extension, drill gas port, install. Done.

But seem like MR556 owners prefer to modify existing HK barrel than can be turned down to about any profile imaginable and cut down to about any length between 104" and 16.5". HK416 users can order light barrel profile from factory if needed. HK introduced this option several years ago.

Sleeper362
01-26-12, 08:59
Frickin awesome.

Nevermiss
01-26-12, 10:05
YIKES!! I had no idea about the R11.

I was going to order a LRP-07 from JP, but rifle has peaked my interest. The upper an lower receiver look like the LRP-07, the gas block looks like the JP adjustable gas block that his been modified for a gas piston and it even has the JP heat sink on the barrel. There were no pictures of the weak hand side of the rifle, but it must have the non-reciprocating charging handle?

Any idea when these will be available? This configuration with a 14.5" bbl to run suppressed will hopefully be my next rifle! Hmmm....I need to call JP and Remington.

AngeredKabar
01-26-12, 10:50
Right now the MSR is only available to LE/Mil, probably because it's only sold as a unit with silencer.

Unit price is a little over $10,000. :eek:

Ghostrider_911
01-26-12, 11:27
Just a quick note, the improved stock of the ACR (lighter color, tougher material) is a retractable stock only, not folding.

The Remington ACR is much lighter now as Chen stated, and leaves the Bushmaster variant standing in terms of overall quality (no surprise). Remington reps are well aware that no-one wants the Bushmaster version (and yes, they hear it all the time *s*).

Hopefully in the not too distant future, time will tell.

TMS951
01-26-12, 11:40
Buy an AAC 300BLK then. They come with 8" URX IIIs.

or a Noveske or what ever else. But then you would not get what that one is, its all in the details.

7" URX II <- I would actually prefer this.

8" barrel (why not get it as short as reasonable)

Then all the KAC proprietary parts, this is the big deal stuff that can"t be sourced else ware.

E3 bolt and barrel extension

Non FA upper receiver with 600m KAS buis

KAC ambi lower.


The thing about this vs. the PDW or the PDW SR15 is everything but the barrel already exists. The effort needed to offer this would be very minimal.

I could see offering the PDW in .300blk needing some real re-engineering and not being worth while to bring to market.

Oh, and .300blk ammo actually exists and at a fair price.

Titleist
01-26-12, 11:47
If having everything with a KAC logo floats your boat, then keep on waiting. Till then KAC is making a nice rail for a nice AAC upper/lower combo.

Cincinnatus
01-26-12, 11:50
I like that Greenish/blue color they have on one of the SR15s. Wonder if I can duplicate it on an MK18ish LMT MRP SBR?:big_boss:

ALCOAR
01-26-12, 11:55
I like that Greenish/blue color they have on one of the SR15s. Wonder if I can duplicate it on an MK18ish LMT MRP SBR?:big_boss:

I double dog dare you to try that....send me some porn or it doesn't count:p

Cincinnatus
01-26-12, 12:02
Got the base weapon in the works, just need to figure out some Duracoat color schemes or something similar to experiment with. And then I will smack that porn up here for ya'll to drool over. :D

JasonM
01-26-12, 12:13
DD makes many of the barrels for even the LE 416s.

Having shot that specific gun on the media day, it does not feel like a 416. It feels like a completely different gun. That rail wasn't on display in the booth either.

It really transformed the feel of the gun. I liked it a lot.

Ghostrider_911
01-26-12, 14:17
Pity that the striker fired FN pistols ambi-safeties are damn near useless. I'd hate to try and disengage them while wearing gloves. FN should have stuck with the larger safety controls on their earlier FNX DA/SA pistols. Otherwise other than that one oversight, not bad at all.

obucina
01-26-12, 14:20
i have a feeling that those bavarian mags will require uber kapital.

markm
01-26-12, 16:11
Yea, liking that rifle a lot. Looks kinda like the new Barrett. MRAD.

Quit looking.... That leads to spending.

markm
01-26-12, 16:14
SMGLee has been holding back pics. :p

thebob24
01-26-12, 19:01
No picture of the PSD 300 ?! :eek:

Seems to be less pictures in general this year. :(

thebob24
01-26-12, 19:07
Just a quick note, the improved stock of the ACR (lighter color, tougher material) is a retractable stock only, not folding.

The Remington ACR is much lighter now as Chen stated, and leaves the Bushmaster variant standing in terms of overall quality (no surprise). Remington reps are well aware that no-one wants the Bushmaster version (and yes, they hear it all the time *s*).

Hopefully in the not too distant future, time will tell.

The ACR-C PDW variant still maintains the folding stock.
Thats the one i'm interested in. :D

As long as the Remington versions exist I don't see why anyone would buy the Bushmaster one.
I hope Remington listening to what they hear. :(
I'll try not to hold my breath though...

Ghostrider_911
01-26-12, 19:35
Roger that - you and me both brother. I don't know how long the Bushmaster/Remington contract lasts, but hope it runs out damn soon. The gent I talked to was fully understanding and would also like to see them on the commercial market.

His only concern was supply and demand, that they couldn't manufacture them quickly enough. That in itself should be a sign that there is demand, I just hope it comes to fruition.

MikeCLeonard
01-26-12, 19:36
Civilian sales are the only hope Remington has for making money off that ACR and piston AR...I wonder if they're aware of that yet?

thebob24
01-26-12, 19:40
Civilian sales are the only hope Remington has for making money off that ACR and piston AR...I wonder if they're aware of that yet?

This is 100% true.
FACT.

The military is buying little of anything in the way of small arms and its only from those shall I say "in-the-pocket".

I'm glad to hear Remington is getting a ton of feedback for civilian demand.
I know I was exchanging emails with them for awhile until they couldn't give me an answer for swapping a fullauto trigger assembly for a semi one and thus being civilian legal. lol

Maybe there is hope!

Tzoid
01-26-12, 20:36
They definitely make some eye appealing rifles...too bad a Maryland based company has very few dealers where we can actually handle the guns before we chunk down the coin.

I wonder why hardly anyone in MD sells LWRC Rifles??:confused:

thebob24
01-26-12, 21:01
They definitely make some eye appealing rifles...too bad a Maryland based company has very few dealers where we can actually handle the guns before we chunk down the coin.

I wonder why hardly anyone in MD sells LWRC Rifles??:confused:

I've seen and handled the REPR at a gunshow here before...
should have taken note of the dealer.

Tzoid
01-26-12, 21:05
I'm a Knights Armament fan and I own a SR15-E3 but as an observation based on the photographs they need to hire someone to properly display their firearms. Some of the Rifles look like they were dragged across the show floor. :confused: Maybe a Silicon cloth would have been a good idea. It's like going to a Car show and seeing a car with mud on the tires and brake dust on the wheels.

Just an observation so don't flame me for being honest. :D

ColdDeadHands
01-26-12, 22:10
I'm a Knights Armament fan and I own a SR15-E3 but as an observation based on the photographs they need to hire someone to properly display their firearms. Some of the Rifles look like they were dragged across the show floor. :confused: Maybe a Silicon cloth would have been a good idea. It's like going to a Car show and seeing a car with mud on the tires and brake dust on the wheels.

Just an observation so don't flame me for being honest. :D

I've also noticed quite big gaps between some upper receivers and hand guards. When looking at some other KAC's it doesn't seem normal.

Pinnacle
01-26-12, 22:15
FN didn't put a grip safety on a precision bolt gun for fun. Somebody important must've asked for that. I just can't figure out why myself. Am I the only one that never wished for a grip safety in this application?

Tzoid
01-26-12, 23:05
You can't pay me to go to the Shitty Gun Shows in MD....Especially Timonium. :blink:

thebob24
01-26-12, 23:20
You can't pay me to go to the Shitty Gun Shows in MD....Especially Timonium. :blink:

(Thread hijack)

So true. Piles and piles of Chinese junk. Not to mention completely unrelated stuff.

I usually go to PA shows. Still a lot of foreign trash but the shows are bigger and you see more Magpul and TroyInd and Aimpoints and EoTechs. Got a good price on one of those 60rnd surefire mags. Maryland 20rnd limit take that! :D

mark5pt56
01-27-12, 05:48
Good to see increased motivation towards innovative bolt gun products and complete systems. It's obvious that folding stocks and detachable magazines play an important role with them. The stock on this seems well thought out and doesn't resemble a roll of barbed wire or entrenching tool. Even down to the right side fold and encompasses the bolt which lessens over all width.

et2041
01-27-12, 07:55
So is SOD like the Gucci of combat attire now? What does it do that surplus MARPAT or Multicam doesn't do?

$$$

montrala
01-27-12, 10:18
Civilian sales are the only hope Remington has for making money off that ACR and piston AR...I wonder if they're aware of that yet?

They do export (for mil/le) ACR a little.

militarymoron
01-27-12, 11:30
So is SOD like the Gucci of combat attire now? What does it do that surplus MARPAT or Multicam doesn't do?

$$$

the SOD Gear stuff is very well made and designed, with features that standard BDUs don't have. same thing other brands Arc'teryx etc, that cost a lot more than surplus. whether the extra cost is justified is entirely up to the individual, and that will be different for everyone.

KevinB
01-27-12, 16:08
We had some guns damaged in the setting up of the displays.

The other thing is we needed to ship the weapons to SHOT a few weeks prior to SHOT, and so on some of the new guns, they where literally thrown together for the show and did not go thru our QC/QA department inspectors.

We make some good notes about what to correct for next year.

leibermuster
01-27-12, 17:36
We had some guns damaged in the setting up of the displays.

The other thing is we needed to ship the weapons to SHOT a few weeks prior to SHOT, and so on some of the new guns, they where literally thrown together for the show and did not go thru our QC/QA department inspectors.

We make some good notes about what to correct for next year.

At least we can say they can take some bumps and bruises...

Now please get some of those SBRs up here in Canada please..

SMGLee
01-27-12, 19:01
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Costa join force with LaRue to produce the Costa Ludus Carbine

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Ultra cool suit case gun, this is a study to see what can be done with this LaRue PredatAR 7.62 to turn it into a compact storage suit case gun.

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Close up of the barrel profile of the ultra accurate PredatAR carbine.

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Captured buffer detent allow the removal of the buffer tube with out losing the critical small parts.

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Design of the rail system barrel not allow the ease installation of the barrel to the receiver without having to index the barrel nut to the gas tube.

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A QD laever will replace the four allen keys to keep the rail on the receiver.

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The ultra tight fitting of all LaRue components on the PredatAR makes for a super accurate rifle, also at the same time allow a literally zero shift when disassembled and reassembled. IMPRESSIVE!

SMGLee
01-27-12, 19:01
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LaRue produced furnitures, retractable stock and grip. vertical market is where a manufacture can save production cost and bring this saving to the end users and at the same time maximize profit, this is a trend that the gun industry are heading toward.

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LaRue grip, in both light texture and heavy texture version.

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090122.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090125.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090129.jpg
A rainbow color of LaRue's very own rail covers.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090131.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090132.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090133.jpg
Scope tube mount for the Aimpoint T1.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090105.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090107.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090108.jpg
Side mount for the T1 mate with ACOG on a LaRue ACOG mount.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090110.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090100.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P10901087.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090084.jpg

SMGLee
01-27-12, 20:05
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090599.jpg
Hotness from Magpul, the new revised P-Mag.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090600.jpg
Added front serration for enhanced grip

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090598.jpg
Same treatment to the rear section of the mag body for more positive grip

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090601.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090603.jpg
A more low profile magazine plate for better ergonomic fitting inside those double mag pouches.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090597.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090607.jpg
Some very noticed improvement to the new P-Mag. the lowering of the front magazine ledge will allow the new P-Mag to work with guns such as HK 416 and FN SCAR, this will literally eliminate the need for the e-Mag.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090606.jpg
A revised rear cutout to give a more positive lock up of the bolt held open

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090605.jpg
this is a very important improvement, this more pronounced ledge on the rear of the magazine will eliminate magazine over run into the mag well. this has been a very annoying problem with the previous P-Mag, once an over run has happened, the mag will lock solid inside the mag well and can't be removed unless some extreme force were applied. and this also render the gun inoperable. this much needed improvement will make magazine over run a thing of the past.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090602.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100414.jpg
Another very cool item by Magpul is this new hand stop. I was never a huge fan of the AFG, but this new handstop is definitely worth looking into. very low profile, zero angle which I did not like, and it integrate with the rail a lot better.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100413.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100415.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100420.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100421.jpg
The only piece in the hand stop puzzle that required a screw to secure it. and this hand stop piece can also be used as a stand along piece.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100423.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100424.jpg

SMGLee
01-27-12, 20:11
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090623.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090622.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090621.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100614.jpg
Magpul light mount for Surefire Scout Lights

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100619.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090618.jpg
A2 stock, Magpul version.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090610.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090608.jpg
The new STR stock. Magpul mate the CTR with the ACS

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090596.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090595.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090594.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090616.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090629.jpg
Magpul designed Remington 870 accessories.

SMGLee
01-27-12, 20:49
Please visit Vltor (www.vltor.com)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090795.jpg
Vltor's new FN SCAR stock, it replace rear stock assembly with a more robust and more utilitarian unit.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090797.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090798.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090801.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090796.jpg
A captured pin on the stock held the butt plate in place, behind the butt plate is the rear storage compartment.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090803.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090806.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090831.jpg
Previous generation SCAR stock by Vltor shown

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090823.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090822.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090804.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090805.jpg
CASV style FN SCAR rail handguard, this design remove the under rail attachment to the barrel trunnion which could result in heat issue with the user's support hand. the Vltor handguard added some spacing between rail and the actual barrel.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090819.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090821.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090874.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090875.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090876.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090877.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090878.jpg
Very elegant design mount, this design will allow the user to use an existing red dot sighting system instead of spending more money to buy the Vltor inhouse design sight. the AK style ranging notch are simple but effective.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090881.jpg

SMGLee
01-27-12, 20:50
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090809.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090882.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090810.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090811.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090812.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090813.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090782.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090783.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090785.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090788.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090789.jpg
Vltor's very own receiver with an over sized magazine release.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090790.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090792.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090826.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090827.jpg
Added under stock rail.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090830.jpg
Extended rail for the Vltor M14 rail. this allow for more options in scope selection when using the Vltor rail system.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090832.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090833.jpg
Optional add on rail for the Springfield M1A SOCOM with Vltor rail.

SMGLee
01-27-12, 21:22
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090717.jpg
LMT's newly revised, slimmer and lighter MRP

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090719.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090720.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090721.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090722.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090723.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090724.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090718.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090714.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090715.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090716.jpg
Compare to the original MRP

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090838.jpg
the larger MWS also received the same treatment.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090839.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090840.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090841.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090843.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090844.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090845.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090846.jpg

SMGLee
01-27-12, 21:24
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090712.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090713.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090726.jpg

scoutfsu99
01-27-12, 22:59
Unless those slanted vents do something I don't know, I think they need to ditch them. Looks good otherwise.

Spooky130
01-27-12, 23:12
Not sure I see the utility in the new SCAR rail/handguard. It is the same length and adds no QD cups.

Spooky

Spooky130
01-27-12, 23:17
Did you happen to see any updated specs on their unreleased barrels? I'm especially interested in their 300 BLK, .260 Rem and 6.5 CM.

Blackbart
01-28-12, 05:23
So is SOD like the Gucci of combat attire now? What does it do that surplus MARPAT or Multicam doesn't do?

$$$

If the product is built to last and designed with features that work, which it looks to be the case, I can see them doing well.

It's also available in solid color patterns as shown on MM's site.

cqbdriver
01-28-12, 10:24
It looks like it adds about 2" to the length, the option of putting the rails only where you need them & rails at 45 degree.

skatz11
01-28-12, 11:05
What flash hider / suppressor mount is that on the SCAR?
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090819.jpg

militarymoron
01-28-12, 12:36
Not sure I see the utility in the new SCAR rail/handguard. It is the same length and adds no QD cups.

Spooky

that round hole just forward and below the SCAR sling loop is a QD attach point. and, as pointed out above, it's longer than the SCAR handguard.

E-man930
01-28-12, 15:38
Any pics of the new 416 rail?

KM223
01-28-12, 16:52
Unless those slanted vents do something I don't know, I think they need to ditch them. Looks good otherwise.

Completely agree. Looks as if this system would hold in far more heat then the old system. If LMT goes back to the holes they will have a winner.

Preach
01-28-12, 16:55
Does anyone know if the revised p-mags will fit the fs2000? And are there anymore pics of the rifle stock? And Thanks for the amazing pics from shot 2012.

Javelin
01-28-12, 17:01
Very nice! I think I am going to wait a while and see reports of the Pmags revision and if it works as prescribed. My Pmags have all been 100% so far but I will like to see what others have to say.

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-28-12, 17:33
Ya I think waiting for reports from others is a good idea. I love the Pmags I have but they dont all fit in my recivers without sanding.

ChicagoTex
01-28-12, 18:26
Three questions:

1. Is the PMAG on the right in the first pic a 40-rounder? If not, why does it appear so much longer than the standard PMAG?

2. Is the Scout Light Mount polymer or steel/aluminum?

3. Was there any mention of doing the A2 fixed stock in an A1 length?

Thanks for the pics, and thanks in advance for any responses you can share.

Titleist
01-28-12, 18:29
1. No it's the 30 round M3 mag.

2. It's Polymer

3. No there wasn't.

MikeCLeonard
01-28-12, 18:57
I'm guessing the thin slanted vents are made that way for the use of mounting accessories to the angled portions of the hand-guard.

FightingTupperware
01-28-12, 19:58
BAM! who makes that handguard system? (top row, second in form the Left, AFG all the way at the end)
looks trim...




http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090596.jpg

weary
01-28-12, 20:19
Could you give some more info on the SCAR stock and fore end in the TD photos?

jonconsiglio
01-28-12, 20:56
Knight's Armament URX II… That rifle is a Magpul SR15. Well, at least the upper is, I can't really see the lower.

FightingTupperware
01-28-12, 21:15
Knight's Armament URX II… That rifle is a Magpul SR15. Well, at least the upper is, I can't really see the lower.

there is no way thats a quad rail... just sayin.
looks (the best i can tell) like the one BHI is manufacturing.
looks more like this: http://www.bhigear.com/bhi-15completeupperreceiver.aspx

but the Magpul has a top rail that runs the length of the rail....:confused:

jonconsiglio
01-28-12, 21:25
It's the Magpul edition of this rifle. Look close.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/jonconsiglio/Forums/IMG_1222.jpg

Dozer
01-28-12, 21:25
The second rifle from the LEFT is a KAC SR15 upper.


The second one from the RIGHT is an Apex handguard.

I hope this helps.

jonconsiglio
01-28-12, 21:27
Wait. You said second from the left on the top row. The second rifle. Are you talk ing about the third from the left (second from the right)?

FightingTupperware
01-28-12, 21:31
Wait. You said second from the left on the top row. The second rifle. Are you talk ing about the third from the left (second from the right)?

um... yep thats what i meant to say...
(full retard moment)

jonconsiglio
01-28-12, 21:35
um... yep thats what i meant to say...
(full retard moment)

No problem man. Like Jimmy said, that's the Apex.

FightingTupperware
01-28-12, 21:36
The second rifle from the LEFT is a KAC SR15 upper.


The second one from the RIGHT is an Apex handguard.

I hope this helps.

right. ya... the other left.
who is apex?

Dozer
01-28-12, 21:38
right. ya... the other left.
who is apex?


Apex Handguard (http://www.apexhandguard.com/)

FightingTupperware
01-28-12, 21:44
Apex Handguard (http://www.apexhandguard.com/)


thanks for the link.
you really know your stuff.

Dozer
01-28-12, 21:48
Thanks but the only reason I know it is because I messed with those guns quite a bit during the show. ;)

ChicagoTex
01-28-12, 23:23
1. No it's the 30 round M3 mag.

2. It's Polymer

3. No there wasn't.

Thanks, Titleist.

So... does anyone know why the M3 mag looks so much longer in this shot compared to the original PMAG?
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090599.jpg

Looks like a bit much to be a simple optical illusion.

Spooky130
01-28-12, 23:27
It is also interesting to note the MWS version has slant cuts on top and holes on the bottom while the MRP has slant cuts top and bottom. Wonder what drives that difference.

Titleist
01-28-12, 23:27
Illusion.

a0cake
01-28-12, 23:48
Looks like the classic magazine optical illusion to me. Look how much higher the highest point on the rear of the magazine on the left is than the magazine on the right. Then consider the POV of the camera. The magazine on the left is clearly further away / higher up on the table than the one on the right. It's a 30 rounder.

KM223
01-29-12, 00:39
It is also interesting to note the MWS version has slant cuts on top and holes on the bottom while the MRP has slant cuts top and bottom. Wonder what drives that difference.

Good question! I'm wondering what drives the decision? The old MRP has been working just fine. Why change it?

Spooky130
01-29-12, 11:44
Could you give some more info on the SCAR stock and fore end in the TD photos?

Those are actually Vltor's SCAR parts... Check that group of SMGLee's photos.

Did TangoDown have any other SCAR accessories on display besides the charging handle and stock latch? They were working on longer replacement rails with QD sling cups and a new extended rail system. I haven't seen any pictures of them from SHOT this year. They were supposedly very close to releasing the replacement rails.

Spooky

snackgunner
01-29-12, 11:56
Thats awesome to see new ammo boxes for the M249 SAW (or whatever new version they have out now) for the troops over seas. I remember carrying the M249 with the shitty plastic 200 round drums and they would always come loose and drop to the ground making the loudest noises when on patrol. Then we switched over to the smaller 100 round nutsucks, which really didnt hold enough rounds. Plus each SAW gunner only got (1) 100 round nutsack to go on the gun, and had to carry the rest of his rounds in the crappy 200 round plastic drums. This new ammo box looks like it will easily be able to hold 200 rounds and seems to be a quality design. Good stuff

Policetacteam
01-29-12, 13:45
Really digging the new rails! LMT still makes some of the nicest gear out there!

Policetacteam
01-29-12, 13:49
Man...those quad stack US Palm AK mags look SWEET!!! So does the US Palm /MI rail. Nice to see someone actually making some useful gear for the AK platform!

dangerdan
01-29-12, 13:52
What flash hider / suppressor mount is that on the SCAR?
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090819.jpg

OPS INC.

Possibly for 14th, 15th, and 16th model cans

Policetacteam
01-29-12, 14:11
LaRue is probably going to sell a metric shit ton of the Costa Ludas rifle! Not only does it look great I'm sure its collectability will go through the roof!! Their polymer stuff looks great as well!

jasonusvi
01-29-12, 16:15
Did you happen to see any updated specs on their unreleased barrels? I'm especially interested in their 300 BLK, .260 Rem and 6.5 CM.

Could be wrong but thought they have been taking orders on and selling the 260 and 6.5CM for the MWS for a while now.

Fairweather8588
01-29-12, 20:29
Anyone know if the newer M3 will still work with the older ranger plates?

SMGLee
01-29-12, 23:23
Please visit Geissele Automatic (http://geissele.com/)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090025.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090022.jpg
Geissele Automatic design and produced this rail on request by a Special Mission Unit.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090020.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090019.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090018.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090011.jpg
Geissele not only produce the HK 416 rrail they also take this design and applied to their standard M4 rail. some minor difference can be seen on this comparison photo, such as double locking nut and also no index on the top rail that is visible on the HK version.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090012.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090024.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090023.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090001.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090002.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090003.jpg
M4 rail by Geissele.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090004.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090005.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090007.jpg

SMGLee
01-29-12, 23:26
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090008.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090009.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090014.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090015.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090013.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090017.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090016.jpg

SMGLee
01-29-12, 23:37
this is the SOTech's new BloCS Gen 3 armor carrier kit with solar panel for rechargeable device.


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090701.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090697.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090698.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090699.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090700.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090704.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090707.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090701.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090702.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090705.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090706.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090703.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090708.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090709.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090710.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090711.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090888.jpg
For sh!ts and giggles, SMGLee tshirt spoted at SHOT

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100394.jpg
My friend Andrew that made the shirt and the art designer Steve St Louis

Javelin
01-29-12, 23:48
Nice picture display! Is that a new trigger group offering I see in that picture?? :blink:

Javelin
01-29-12, 23:54
Great review! But seriously ... I would skip the 'thumbs-up' pose in the photos. :haha:

nml
01-30-12, 01:35
Trigger groups Bill made for his wife's co: http://www.algdefense.com/

Dozer
01-30-12, 10:05
Anyone know if the newer M3 will still work with the older ranger plates?

Yes they will. You will, however, need to remove the base plate in order to install the ranger plate.

kdcgrohl
01-30-12, 10:21
Since the new magazine obsoletes the EMAG, will you continue to produce them commercially or will they be for the Brit contract only?
*Sorry if this has been previously addressed.

BAC
01-30-12, 10:39
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090602.jpg

Does this picture mean less room internally than the previous version of the Pmag? The wildcatter in me needs to know. :o


-B

vicious_cb
01-30-12, 11:51
Very nice! Lee, how do the cross bolts interface with the spigot barrel nut? Do they just line up in the groves and how secure do you think it is?

Cincinnatus
01-30-12, 12:16
The new gear looks great, Magpul. I see that the new stock is already available at Brownells. How soon before the new rail panels/handstops are available?

Dozer
01-30-12, 12:28
The new gear looks great, Magpul. I see that the new stock is already available at Brownells. How soon before the new rail panels/handstops are available?


Those will be available this spring.

Hammertime
01-30-12, 16:21
Did anyone ask Mr. G when the handguards will be available in longer lengths (12"+)???

Thanks
Bryant

jbsmwd
01-30-12, 16:55
Any word on the VS-1 can that brought out 2 years ago?

556noob
01-30-12, 19:41
Just looking at the photos, I still prefer the old design.

Thanks for the photos SMGLEe!!!

556noob
01-30-12, 19:50
I see all the BROMANCE all over again with the Costa rifle LOL! :D

weary
01-30-12, 19:51
Those are actually Vltor's SCAR parts... Check that group of SMGLee's photos.

Did TangoDown have any other SCAR accessories on display besides the charging handle and stock latch? They were working on longer replacement rails with QD sling cups and a new extended rail system. I haven't seen any pictures of them from SHOT this year. They were supposedly very close to releasing the replacement rails.

Spooky

Thanks, I hadn't looked at the vltor photos. I have also been eagerly waiting for the extended rail they showed at SHOT last year. It's been a long wait.

RD62
01-30-12, 19:55
Does a Costa rifle mean they are HPT/MPI bolts and barrels and such?

I may have missed something because I don't follow Larue products terribly closely but I was under the impression they didn't test in this manner or at least did not in the past.

I'm sure if Chris is putting his name and logo on it that it would be good to go.

bigshooter
01-30-12, 20:42
Wow. Those rails are NIIIIICE...... first thing from SHOT 12' that is worth talking about IMO.

drummerdude1188
01-30-12, 23:58
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090623.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090622.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1090621.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss12/huge/P1100614.jpg


It looks like the top of this mount is railed? Will it fit a x300 on top? And any idea on price?

huntsimp
01-31-12, 02:19
When will the 14.5 rifle/upper be available for purchase or pre-order??

Magic_Salad0892
01-31-12, 02:21
I'm hoping they discontinue the URX-IIs, and produce URX-III, and 3.1s exclusively.

Does anybody have any data on weather or not the URX 3.1 will be produced in 10 3/4''?...

OTO27
01-31-12, 03:27
Does a Costa rifle mean they are HPT/MPI bolts and barrels and such?

I may have missed something because I don't follow Larue products terribly closely but I was under the impression they didn't test in this manner or at least did not in the past.

I'm sure if Chris is putting his name and logo on it that it would be good to go.

I am sure its no different than their other rifles which means no on the NDI testing.

I dont know were you are going with this question but there are many threads here dedicated to the subject of MPI/HPT testing and to the matter of when are they needed and what not. Like most KCA products the Larue is no different and has done away with what has become basically an obsolete and unesesary step.

snakedoctor
01-31-12, 09:04
I want my 16" PredatOBR already :dirol:

snakedoctor
01-31-12, 09:13
I want my 16" PredatOBR already :dirol:


Thanks for the pictures SMGLee