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"According to statistics assembled from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Center for Disease Control and the Federal Government, firearms related homicides are minuscule in comparison to other the other “big killers” in the United States.
Disclaimer: No specific links cited for verification of data. However, interesting chart for sure. Some numbers are rounded and year is not specified.
Would like to see a more scientific breakdown with cited/linked sources that provide verification. Any one know of such a beast?
If accurate, death by firearm for 10 top "killers": 11,493 firearm homicides/1,094,248 total deaths = 1% (.0105031%)
From here: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/americas-biggest-killers-the-chart-anti-gunners-dont-want-you-to-see_01052013
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But firearms make up nearly half of all homicides.
The top 8 on the chart are accidental.
But firearms make up nearly half of all homicides.
The top 8 on the chart are accidental.
Actually they only up 40%, which is closer to 1/3 than 1/2.
The health care system is 17 times more deadly than the "gun culture".
I wonder what the numbers look like when you break down how many guns per gun-death vs. how many doctors per "medical mistake" death.
By the anti-gunners "logic", obviously we need to ban modern medicine!!
When I look at the FBI website on homicide stats, I see that firearms account for 68% of all homicides (2011).
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Looking at the CDC website, firearm homicides shows the same percentage of the total (2008 data), 68%
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
OTOH, total firearms deaths, represented 18% of all injury deaths. Slightly lower than deaths from traffic accidents.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
When I look at the FBI website on homicide stats, I see that firearms account for 68% of all homicides (2011).
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Looking at the CDC website, firearm homicides shows the same percentage of the total (2008 data), 68%
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
OTOH, total firearms deaths, represented 18% of all injury deaths. Slightly lower than deaths from traffic accidents.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
"Unintentional injuries" must also include unintentional firearm injuries then.
The health care system is 17 times more deadly than the "gun culture".
I wonder what the numbers look like when you break down how many guns per gun-death vs. how many doctors per "medical mistake" death.
By the anti-gunners "logic", obviously we need to ban modern medicine!!
How many lives has the healthcare system saved compared to guns? I don't actually know the number, but I'd assume that guns are closer to 1:1 saved:killed, maybe even 5 or 10:1 (pulling a gun to scare someone who would have knifed you had you not), while the healthcare system is in far excess of 100:1.
VooDoo6Actual
01-06-13, 14:13
It's CLEARLY NOT about Gun Control for the reasons presented.
These stats are nothing new.
Iaptrogenesis has been the leading killer for decades.
It's about Political / ROL control for the shitstorm still coming.
Keep your eye on the ball.
The coup has happened already will people let it continue ?
So where in the Bill of Rights does it mention health care, or automobiles, or tobacco, or alcohol? It doesn't, but the individual right to keep and bear arms does. It is SPECIFICALLY put in there for a reason. That reason is no less important than any of the other rights listed, and a good argument can be made that it is the MOST important right.
Too often the conversation about the 2nd Amendment seems to have the undercurrent of treating the right to keep and bear arms as if it's on a par with a drivers license. The right to keep and bear effective arms is directly tied to your right to preserve your own life. Morally, licensing or confiscating guns is like licensing or confiscating air, or food, or water. Politicians who claim some kind of "authority" to do that are telling us that the lives of you, me, our children, etc are not as valuable as their lives... which are being protected by highly trained men who carry effective arms.
But firearms make up nearly half of all homicides.
The top 8 on the chart are accidental.
Tobacco, alcohol, and drug use are not accidents and auto accidents includes DUI.
Not all homicides are criminal acts. How many of the homicides were ruled justified in lawful self defense shootings? Some of them are undoubtedly LEO involved shootings. They would not be a criminal acts and should not be considered a negative aspect of firearm ownership.
I would like to know the number of UNLAWFUL homicides committed with a firearm. I would think the number would be less than 11,000.
So where in the Bill of Rights does it mention health care, or automobiles, or tobacco, or alcohol?
I am of the belief that the Founding Fathers never believed that society would get stupid enough to ban tobacco or alcohol.
xrayoneone
01-06-13, 20:45
Not all homicides are criminal acts. How many of the homicides were ruled justified in lawful self defense shootings? Some of them are undoubtedly LEO involved shootings. They would not be a criminal acts and should not be considered a negative aspect of firearm ownership.
I would like to know the number of UNLAWFUL homicides committed with a firearm. I would think the number would be less than 11,000.
Good point. A lot of crying about firearms deaths but not all firearms deaths are bad.
Magic_Salad0892
01-06-13, 23:45
I at one point saw some stats for firearms homicides specifically and they were only like 9k deaths.
On average, doesn't influenza claim over 30,000 Americans annually? Why isn't sneezing a felony?
Moose-Knuckle
01-07-13, 03:05
When I look at the FBI website on homicide stats, I see that firearms account for 68% of all homicides (2011).
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Are we to believe that those inanimate objects loaded themselves, pointed themselves at human beings, and activated their own trigger mechanisms to commit those homicides?
Are we to believe that those inanimate objects loaded themselves, pointed themselves at human beings, and activated their own trigger mechanisms to commit those homicides?
My choice of semantics is confusing you? You thought I was saying that these firearms committed the homicides by themselves, without human intervention?
Moose-Knuckle
01-08-13, 02:32
My choice of semantics is confusing you? You thought I was saying that these firearms committed the homicides by themselves, without human intervention?
When a person words things like "firearms account for 68% of homicides in this country" they come off as a speech writer for Dianne Feinstein.
Justy say'n . . .
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