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Packman73
01-20-13, 16:09
http://news.yahoo.com/five-shot-dead-albuquerque-teen-charged-192338159.html


A teenage boy with several weapons including an assault rifle shot and killed five people, three of them children, at a house in Albuquerque, New Mexico, authorities said on Sunday.

Bolt_Overide
01-20-13, 16:11
dont normally wear a tin foil hat... but I dont normally believe in coincidence either...

Packman73
01-20-13, 16:17
I also find these events suspicious.

Biggy
01-20-13, 16:48
Well, more fuel for the anti's fire. IMHO, things will probably be getting worse before they get better. With things like this happening weekly or monthly lately, the availability and prices on guns, hi-cap mags and ammo to feed them will probably continue to stay at their current levels for maybe the next 6 months, to even year or more. :(

newyork
01-20-13, 17:17
Weird how this happened again. Seems too coincidental.

Belmont31R
01-20-13, 17:21
Another mentally ill nut?

FlyingHunter
01-20-13, 17:31
First: Prayers to the families of those affected.

Second: Unfreakinbelievable! The hits keep coming at this critical time for 2A rights.

Mjolnir
01-20-13, 17:39
I also find these events suspicious.

As well all of us should.

Mjolnir
01-20-13, 17:39
First: Prayers to the families of those affected.

Second: Unfreakinbelievable! The hits keep coming at this critical time for 2A rights.

No such thing as coincidence, either.

newyork
01-20-13, 17:47
People are killed like its their job in strict cities like Chicago every day. Ever hear about them? Notice in the report that a military assault style rifle was in the house? They don't even know what he used yet and they only mention that gun when other guns were present.

jaxman7
01-20-13, 18:03
Coincidence or just more national attention to sad events like these? Adding fuel
for more anti gun fires.

-Jax

Jake'sDad
01-20-13, 19:02
Coincidence or just more national attention to sad events like these? Adding fuel
for more anti gun fires.

-Jax

^^ This.

Honu
01-20-13, 19:08
sad for sure

how many kids know its illegal to buy booze !
illegal to drink booze under age
and drive and drink period no matter what the age !
yet so many do it and break multiple laws and way more deaths and no uproar over that


this BAN is truly about disarming us so we will have to fall victim to what they want to do with us in the future ! IMHO

Honu
01-20-13, 19:09
I think the attention they give these shooters is making some who are mental ill think they can be some kinda super hero freak or something

so attention starved and deranged the more the media puts these people all over I do think its going to make it happen more

tb-av
01-20-13, 19:21
Prison Chaplain killed

Also they sure are wording the death of the kids in an unusual manner.

Child abuse resulting in death.

http://news.msn.com/us/officials-15-year-old-kills-5-inside-nm-home?ocid=ansnews11

1911pro
01-20-13, 19:29
As well all of us should.

2nd that.

1911pro
01-20-13, 19:36
Weird how this happened again. Seems too coincidental.

All in their big plan...

ForTehNguyen
01-20-13, 19:41
this is why you dont bombard people with coverage of a mass shooter. These crazies want the infamy, attention, body count plastered all over the place. Guess what happens when you give it to them?

OldState
01-20-13, 22:09
http://news.yahoo.com/five-shot-dead-albuquerque-teen-charged-192338159.html

They seemed to use the term "assault weapon" an awful lot for such a short article.

Biggy
01-20-13, 22:34
They seemed to use the term "assault weapon" an awful lot for such a short article.

And it is not by accident.

sinlessorrow
01-20-13, 22:34
The sad thing is....this is a common accurance. The only reason it is coming everywhere is because people are reporting it now more than ever. Every shooting is getting reported now because of the gun battle...before only mass shoots got reported.

tb-av
01-20-13, 22:44
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-albuquerque-family-shooting-20130120,0,917364.story?track=rss&dlvrit=104530


It's only going to get worse.

Man that was shot was Ex-con turned Preacher.
15 year old son/shooter that liked to wear camo all the time.

Sooo? Where did the guns come from?

Moose-Knuckle
01-21-13, 02:06
Notice in the report that a military assault style rifle was in the house? They don't even know what he used yet and they only mention that gun when other guns were present.

Precisely!

From the source article:
http://news.yahoo.com/teenager-reportedly-used-ar-15-kill-five-mexico-225610219.html

Here they state for FACT that an AR-15 was used in the killings.

"A 15-year-old was arrested Sunday for killing a family just outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico Saturday evening using the weapon that's dominated much of the gun control conversation -- the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle."

Gotta love this, several different weapons found but they "know for sure" the kid used an AR-15. :rolleyes:

"Here's what we know for sure: a family five were found dead in a house in a secluded area just outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico on Saturday night. The bodies included an adult male, and adult female, one juvenile male and two juvenile females . An unidentified 15-year-old was arrested and charged for killing all five people. Several weapons were found inside the house, including a military style assault rifle."

So authorities "believe" the killer "primarily" used an AR-15 so cue up the media sensationalism. :suicide:
"KOB also reports police believe the shooter primarily used an AR-15 rifle, the same weapon used by James Holmes in Aurora, Colorado and Adam Lanza in Newtown, Connecticut."

mikelowrey
01-21-13, 02:11
Is all BS. Would you say coincidence that there have been like 5 shootings in less than a month?

opmike
01-21-13, 02:42
Is all BS. Would you say coincidence that there have been like 5 shootings in less than a month?

People get shot and killed all the time. However, with guns being such a hot-button topic, each and every incident is making national headlines.

Look at all the reports about the ND at that gun show. With all the gun shows taking place around the country, that certainly wasn't the first, but it's sure as hell first I've seen covered by major news networks.

That said, some of you are making comments like the Democrats are dispatching Manchurian candidates around the country to hurt our cause...

Sensei
01-21-13, 05:22
No such thing as coincidence, either.

Care to explain that statement? Are you suggesting that it is impossible for a handful of mass murders to occur independent of each other in a nation of 350 million people over the course of a year? I suppose that it is also impossible for 2 people to choose the same winning lottery numbers.

I say that is is more than possible. It is actually probable given the size of this country.

Shao
01-21-13, 05:52
so attention starved and deranged the more the media puts these people all over I do think its going to make it happen more


this is why you dont bombard people with coverage of a mass shooter. These crazies want the infamy, attention, body count plastered all over the place. Guess what happens when you give it to them?

Agreed.. many copycat morons out there.. The media isn't helping..



Precisely!

Gotta love this, several different weapons found but they "know for sure" the kid used an AR-15. :rolleyes:


Kinda like Lanza used an AR-15 to kill those kids in Newtown, but the only long gun found was a shotgun in his trunk?

OldState
01-21-13, 06:03
Agreed.. many copycat morons out there..

This is the real issue. The 24/7 media coverage definitely inspired many if not all of these shootings.


The media and the overall commonality of the AR is why you see it being used now. We have to remind people of that.

I'll bet if you look at motorcycle deaths there are more Hondas involved than Harleys

duece71
01-21-13, 06:09
Pretty soon, every shooting death reported, wether its 1 person or 10, will involve an AR15. They will substitute handgun or knife for AR15.
Someone will commit suicide with an AR15 and the media will claim that the person shot themselves 30 times........:rolleyes:

Caeser25
01-21-13, 06:12
Coincidence or just more national attention to sad events like these? Adding fuel
for more anti gun fires.

-Jax

Make no mistake, this is a well coordinated attack by the media nationwide whoring themselves out for every shooting. Not a peep when shooters are stopped and not a peep on Chicago either.

No.6
01-21-13, 08:17
....

Sooo? Where did the guns come from?



I know! I know! Uh... Eric Holder?

No.6
01-21-13, 08:29
True crime reporting....

Several years ago in a small South Texas town called Alice, someone took a shot at the town's water tower. But... how it was reported stated that "a high powered assault rifle" was used. (That was in the first couple of sentences and we know the fallacy of that "fact") What followed was speculation as to the motive, the several tens of thousands of dollars to repair the tower, etc. Buried in the last few sentences was the true story; no weapon and no cartridge casing had been recovered.
My guess is the guy probably drove one of those "urban assault vehicles" too.

ForTehNguyen
01-21-13, 18:51
he killed most of his family using a .22 rifle. Then used the AR to kill his dad when he got home

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2902866.shtml?cat=600


Report: NM teen had homicidal, suicidal thoughts
Posted at: 01/21/2013 4:37 PM
By SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN

(AP) ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - The New Mexico teenager accused of fatally shooting his parents and three younger siblings told authorities he was annoyed with his mother and had been having homicidal and suicidal thoughts, according to a probable cause statement.

Nehemiah Griego, 15, remained in custody Monday on charges of murder and child abuse resulting in death. He was arrested following the shootings Saturday at a home in a rural area southwest of Albuquerque where he lived with his family.

A Bernalillo County sheriff’s detective questioned the teen Saturday night and the details of their conversation were spelled out in the statement.

The teen allegedly told the detective that he took a .22 caliber rifle from his parents’ closet around midnight Saturday and shot his mother in the head while his younger brother slept next to her.

Griego told the detective that his brother did not believe him that their mother was dead so he showed his mother’s bloody face to his brother and then shot him, according to the statement.

He’s accused of then shooting his two young sisters in their room. He retrieved an AR-15 rifle from his parents’ closet and waited in a downstairs bathroom for his father to come home. The statement said he shot his father multiple times after he passed the bathroom doorway.

The teen said he reloaded the guns so "he could drive to a populated area to murder more people," according to the statement.

His plan, the statement said, was to "shoot people at random and eventually be killed while exchanging gunfire with law enforcement."

Sheriff’s spokesman Deputy Aaron Williamson said Monday he couldn’t immediately comment on the document.

Detectives have spent two days collecting evidence and trying to piece together what led to the violence.

"There’s no other way to say it, except that we have a horrific crime scene down there that we are working on," Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said Sunday.

The detectives had finished their work at the home by Monday afternoon. The metal gate at the home’s entrance was shut, a small bouquet of purple flowers was on the top of the gate and at each side there were religious signs, including one that read "Jesus is the reason for the season."

The sheriff’s office identified the victims as Greg Griego, 51, his wife Sarah Griego, 40, and three of their children: a 9-year-old boy, Zephania Griego, and daughters Jael Griego, 5, and Angelina Griego, 2. All appeared to have gunshot wounds to the head.

Greg Griego was a pastor who had once served at Calvary, one of Albuquerque’s largest Christian churches. He was also well-known throughout the law enforcement community for his work as a voluntary chaplain.

Neighbor Terry Wootan described Griego as a man with a big heart. The two sometimes chatted at the mailbox and would wave to each other when passing by. Wootan said Griego told him about his time in California when he was involved in gangs and how he turned his life around and found God.

"What he wanted to do was help people, and he would never quit," Wootan said.

The pastor’s death has shocked the community, including the Albuquerque Fire Department and the Metropolitan Detention Center, where he volunteered his spiritual guidance.

A records check by the Children, Youth and Families Department indicated no trouble with the Griego family and that Nehemiah Griego had never been in trouble with the law.

"This youth had no history with the juvenile justice system," agency spokesman Bob Tafoya said Monday.

Williamson confirmed there was no history of any emergency calls to the home in the recent past.

Neighbors said they saw the first police cars and ambulances arrive at the home Saturday night. The road was blocked and word of the shootings began to make its way through the neighborhood.

According to the probable cause statement, Nehemiah Griego first told a staff member at Calvary that his family was dead and that he placed the two rifles in the family van as protection before driving to the church. He later changed his story, according to the detective’s statement.

Asked if he had told anyone else about murdering his family, Griego allegedly told the detective that he had taken a picture of his dead mother and sent it to his girlfriend.

Sheriff Dan Houston plans to hold a news conference Tuesday morning, and the teen could make his first court appearance in the next day or two.

No.6
01-21-13, 20:09
No mention of psychological treatment or drugs?

ForTehNguyen
01-21-13, 20:11
No mention of psychological treatment or drugs?

they wont ever mention drugs, Big Pharma would have an aneurysm if their product was involved in murders

Caeser25
01-21-13, 22:04
they wont ever mention drugs, Big Pharma would have an aneurysm if their product was involved in murders

Besides the firearms, that seems to be the next common denominator.

BAC
01-22-13, 16:21
Incredible. Not ina good way either. We really needa high profile figure to congress out and publicly condemn the media for fueling this.


-B

SteveS
01-22-13, 16:24
Is all BS. Would you say coincidence that there have been like 5 shootings in less than a month? Before the Calif black riflr ban in around 1992? Jackie Spier had tried several times to get a ban imposed. Failing each time .Then finally Patrick Purdey shot up the School yard in Stocton and there we go. Back then I thought it was strange but then I think about things. But remember the GOVERNMENT is our friend it is here to help us . When the World trade center was hit by the planes I though no wonder why Bill Clinton refused an office there and picked Harlem as the safe location but then I think about things.

SteveS
01-22-13, 16:28
Besides the firearms, that seems to be the next common denominator.
The antidepressants are the common denominator. advertising dollars stop the media from exposing the truth. Besides we must be disarmed as a populace to enter into the new world order. Look up the freedom from war treaty signed by John F Kennedy.

SteveS
01-22-13, 16:32
This is the real issue. The 24/7 media coverage definitely inspired many if not all of these shootings.


The media and the overall commonality of the AR is why you see it being used now. We have to remind people of that.

I'll bet if you look at motorcycle deaths there are more Hondas involved than Harleys
What is amazing is all those who watch the TV news and without any critical thinking believe with out thought or fact checking what they are told.