Stock Choices

[Lone_Ranger]

I bought a Remington 700 SPS last year, with the hopes of attending a Long Range Rifle class. I've been having issues with the Hogue Overmold Stock, that comes with it, and have decided to upgrade. I've come to the conclusion that I will not be able to take the class without an upgrade, to a stock with an adjustable length of pull, and an adjustable cheek piece. (especially the cheek piece)

I'm looking at Stocky's Stocks, and they have a McMillan A5, in stock, for $860, which I believe will fit, if the 20" Remington barrel, is the same as, what they list as an "M24 MilSpec" barrel. (Going to their tech support page, they don't list any 20" barrels for the model 700) I'll have to verify.

However, for $887, Midway offers an AICS stock, that would add a 5 round detachable magazine. It currently has the hinged floor plate. If I wanted to add a detachable magazine to the McMillan, it would add another $200.

Any thoughts?

[Frank207]

IMO ... I like http://shop.mcreesprecision.net/main.sc

[Lone_Ranger]

The friend that recommended the Bell and Carlson, suggested McRee, as well. I could probably get a McRee, fairly quickly. Does the McRee also convert the rifle from hinged floor plate, to a magazine?

[Frank207]

Yes there stocks already have a mag well, but they do not come with a magazine(sold separately). Very easy install, comes with all wrenches.

[Gatekeeper]

I'm looking at Stocky's Stocks, and they have a McMillan A5, in stock, for $860, which I believe will fit, if the 20" Remington barrel, is the same as, what they list as an "M24 MilSpec" barrel. (Going to their tech support page, they don't list any 20" barrels for the model 700) I'll have to verify.

However, for $887, Midway offers an AICS stock, that would add a 5 round detachable magazine. It currently has the hinged floor plate. If I wanted to add a detachable magazine to the McMillan, it would add another $200.

Any thoughts?
According to stocky's the M24 has a larger barrel channel, your sps should be a varmint/sendaro contour
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh146/pittpiledriver/stockyssnip_zps4b366297.jpg

Looks like they have one sendaro model in stock but not with the detachable bottom metal
Remington 700 BDL S/A / Sendaro, Forest Camo -In Stock

[ARaz]

Any thoughts?

Yes. Put that $1000+ in ammo and practice.

;)

[orkan]

Don't overlook Manners. They are my favorite stock maker.

A T4A is one nice piece of hardware. Don't forget to get it bedded and use your choice of bottom metal. If you are not sure which one you want to keep, then get the mini-chassis so you can sell it later. Then when you find the style you want, ditch the mini chassis and get it bedded. (or just skim bed the chassis)

[kmrtnsn]

IMO ... I like http://shop.mcreesprecision.net/main.sc

Gawd, he really needs to get a new webmaster.

[VooDoo6Actual]

I bought a Remington 700 SPS last year, with the hopes of attending a Long Range Rifle class. I've been having issues with the Hogue Overmold Stock, that comes with it, and have decided to upgrade. I've come to the conclusion that I will not be able to take the class without an upgrade, to a stock with an adjustable length of pull, and an adjustable cheek piece. (especially the cheek piece)

I'm looking at Stocky's Stocks, and they have a McMillan A5, in stock, for $860, which I believe will fit, if the 20" Remington barrel, is the same as, what they list as an "M24 MilSpec" barrel. (Going to their tech support page, they don't list any 20" barrels for the model 700) I'll have to verify.

However, for $887, Midway offers an AICS stock, that would add a 5 round detachable magazine. It currently has the hinged floor plate. If I wanted to add a detachable magazine to the McMillan, it would add another $200.

Any thoughts?

Easy Day Lone Ranger your on the right path....

Manners, B&C, HS precision, McMillan, AICS, McRee are all GTG... McRee is more of a Techno Stock imo vs. traditional in the sense of it's form factor. I also have witnessed & experienced some McRee stocks having issues in colder temps if that is a concern or possibility for your AO.

The advice by Gatekeeper above is spot on regarding Varmint / Sendaro barrel contour vs. M24 which is a heavier contour. If you find a stock you like you can use a wooden dowel w/ sandpaper/wet dry paper to open up the stock's barrel channel & accommodate a bigger barrel's contour for proper float / clearance. Then skim bed, paint, cerkote etc. Just be advised you cannot go back once you have removed the material. You may want to consider flush cups vs. studs as well.

They basically all have an Aluminum Monobloc / Accubloc design that should be skim bedded. Not absolutely necessary but desirable. Sometimes people get lucky & get a good mount w/ receiver to Bloc w/ your rifle's Lug locking up. Laser bore sight etc.

I've built a few & tend to like McMillan & Manners stocks. Your tastes may be different.

Try "BUGHOLES" (Southern Precision Rifles) @ link provided below as well they usually have a pretty good selection of stocks & actions etc. Greg is easy to deal with there.

http://www.bugholes.com

Consider this as well as you learn about this platform.
Even a ROBAR 60 does not come w/ all the best upgrades / remedies / deficiencies
imo, the vulnerable / weak spots on your typical R700 S/A L/A are:

1) the factory R700 Bolt handle is Cast steel & silver soldered/brazed on & been know to break/snap off either in cold temps or vigorous application. (I'd replace it w/ a tool steel 11 degree factory R700 from PTG or similar & have it TIG welded & or Torx screw but not absolutely necessary)

2) the bottom metal on BDL sucks donkey balls. Get a replacement Bottom metal (Oberdorf is good) or DBM. PTG, DD Ross, Wyatt's, Williams, Badger, Seekins, Surgeon, CDI or what ever is the flavor of the month is better than the pot metal factory. If your go prone in a 2 way gun fight pronto & smack that trigger guard down & break your trigger rendering your rifle non op you might end up losing that one.

Here's a rather extreme example of the type of abuse some of these can take. I never put my Rifles through this much abuse but, have done most of it deployed & I'm always amazed at the durability.

Check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2R-LbOv8Bg

HTH & good luck on your quest.

[Lone_Ranger]

Any thoughts?

Yes. Put that $1000+ in ammo and practice.

;)

That was the plan!

However, fighting for eye relief, by holding my head, up away from the stock, only gave me frustration, a pulled neck muscle, and an eye strain headache.

With the price of ammo, and the cost of the course, I need a proper stock, or I'm just throwing money away.

[orkan]

You've got a good plan there. Stick to it. :)

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Don't overlook Manners. They are my favorite stock maker.

A T4A is one nice piece of hardware. Don't forget to get it bedded and use your choice of bottom metal. If you are not sure which one you want to keep, then get the mini-chassis so you can sell it later. Then when you find the style you want, ditch the mini chassis and get it bedded. (or just skim bed the chassis)

Oh you beat me to it

[Lumin]

Don't overlook Manners. They are my favorite stock maker.

A T4A is one nice piece of hardware. Don't forget to get it bedded and use your choice of bottom metal. If you are not sure which one you want to keep, then get the mini-chassis so you can sell it later. Then when you find the style you want, ditch the mini chassis and get it bedded. (or just skim bed the chassis)

I've been looking for a stock as well and was debating getting a Manners stock with a mini chassis. Could you explain a little more why you would ditch the mini chassis for a bedded stock? I'm new to this type of shooting and the insight would be appreciated.

[Lone_Ranger]

Easy Day Lone Ranger your on the right path....

Manners, B&C, HS precision, McMillan, AICS, McRee are all GTG... McRee is more of a Techno Stock imo vs. traditional in the sense of it's form factor. I also have witnessed & experienced some McRee stocks having issues in colder temps if that is a concern or possibility for your AO.

The advice by Gatekeeper above is spot on regarding Varmint / Sendaro barrel contour vs. M24 which is a heavier contour.

I've built a few & tend to like McMillan & Manners stocks. Your tastes may be different.

HTH & good luck on your quest.

Thanks for the help! Especially on the barrels.

I wasn't crazy about the McRee, because it's non-traditional looking. It looks like you made it in your garage. I know people that use them, and even shot one to try it. Though, I do like the looks of the ACIS, even though it's non-traditional. Doesn't make sense, but it's more of a "Eruo" look, with the thumbhole stock. It's a "Porsche" though, being the most expensive. I don't mind saving a bit, if I can. I just don't want to cut corners, for the sake of saving a buck. We've all bought the half-price "Acme" product, then had to fork over for name brand, costing us more, in time and money, in the long run.

My top choices, would be the McMillan A5, and the H-S Precision M24 stocks. (though I hadn't heard much, of the H-S) If I go with those, I'll probably just stick with the hinged floor plate, and not try to add a magazine. I'll have to go back, and look. I knew, I had the Varmint/Tactical barrel, but I was thinking it was heavier than the Slendero.

[orkan]

You'll probably be kicking yourself for not going with a magazine.

Lumin, the whole idea of the mini chassis is so you don't have to bed. It's a V-block style thing like you find in an AICS, with bottom metal included. I don't trust V-blocks. I've had them do bad things in the past, so I bed everything.

If you are bedding, there is no reason to have a mini-chassis. If memory serves, you save a little weight by not having the mini chassis, so if you aren't going to keep the stock and want to resell it, the mini chassis is outstanding. It will let you try out a stock, and maintain resell value. However, if you get a stock and bed it, it's very tough to resell.

[Shotdown]

Mine is currently sitting in a McRee chassis. I wasn't exactly in love with it at first but now I really like it. However, I do have a Manners T4A for my 6.5 Creedmoor.

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj565/shotdown2/70a5451d.jpg

[taliv]

Here's a rather extreme example of the type of abuse some of these can take. I never put my Rifles through this much abuse but, have done most of it deployed & I'm always amazed at the durability.

Check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2R-LbOv8Bg


did you see the target on the far right at 5:40?

nice video

[orkan]

LOL ... damn deer walking around 10yds from them.

[VooDoo6Actual]

did you see the target on the far right at 5:40?

nice video

Indeed.

Reminded me of The Deer Hunter....

The irony...

Lone_Ranger here's some barrel comparison pics that tell the story pretty well for ya...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/barrels_04_caLarge_zps7c65c2fb.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/barrels_01_caLarge_zps6187fe7d.jpg

Here's a stock R700 S/A cast bolt handle that is brazed/silver soldered on

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/DSC07765_zpsc1db2e5e.jpg

Here's a properly fitted & dressed out tool steel bolt handle w/ DD Ross bolt knob. There's a metric sheetload of different Knobs out there.
My DD Ross bolt knob was FUBAR from the git go & took about 2 hours of messaging out the deep tool cut marks, beveling, polishing & blasting to get it right for me. I have BO bolt knobs on some of my other BG's that are nice as well.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/photo_zps63d63bdf.jpg

TIG welded Before dressing it out completely etc.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/photo_zps63d182fc.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/photo_zps12290c41.jpg

[AR15barrels]

TIG welded Before dressing it out completely etc.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/photo_zps63d182fc.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/photo_zps12290c41.jpg

I tig weld the sides and the back of the handle to the bolt, but I never do the front.
Doing the front gets you into the extraction cam and you don't want to Fubar that area...

[Ring]

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3535583&Searchpage=1&Main=311713&Words=700&Search=true#Post3535583

list of R700 Chassis under 1k

mcree "fixed or folding"
XLR "fixed or folding"
Whiskey-3 "fixed"
AI 1.5 fixed

PDC Custom-fixed and folder
Competition Machine Inc.
http://www.gotxring.com/tactical/
TAC21 CHASSIS
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=43777/avs%7CStyle_1=Tactical/Product/REMINGTON-700-TAC21-CHASSIS


1100$ ADVANCED MODULAR CHASSIS SYSTEM (AMCS)
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=32308/Product/ADVANCED-MODULAR-CHASSIS-SYSTEM-AMCS-

[Doc. Holiday]

Has anyone had any experience with the Eberlestocks? http://www.eberlestock.com/M11%20Stealth%20Rifle%20Chassis.htm I love his bags, but I have not heard a thing about his stocks. I have never handled one so I can't say much about it except I think it is way too "skeletonized" for my liking.

[Ring]

Has anyone had any experience with the Eberlestocks? http://www.eberlestock.com/M11%20Stealth%20Rifle%20Chassis.htm I love his bags, but I have not heard a thing about his stocks. I have never handled one so I can't say much about it except I think it is way too "skeletonized" for my liking.

vary light... and compact... but a bit funky looking for me also im a fan of stock packs, and not seeing a easy way to use one with this..

that and the $1,895 price tag ....... ill pass...