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rockmyglock
02-19-13, 19:37
My concern is regarding comfort when wearing an ACH for extended periods of time. Could the Ops-Core CBRN extender (http://www.ops-core.com/CBRN_Mask_Extender_P4C5.cfm) be re-purposed as a beard accommodation device? Will this fill the role of keeping the helmet in place?

Is it correct to assume that this will only help with comfort during the day time or when a load is not attached (e.g. NVD, recording devices)?

Important! -- This is not to be confused with the feminine, chin-strap beard:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2qmlwuh.jpg

I am talking about helmet retention whilst rocking the combat beard:

http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1373499.jpeg

Spiffums
02-20-13, 11:06
Harry Potter vs Warfighter?

T2C
02-20-13, 11:12
I wonder how Yosemite Sam gets his gas mask to seal? :rolleyes:

NeoNeanderthal
02-20-13, 11:15
not harry potter. Frodo.

rockmyglock
02-20-13, 11:18
I wonder how Yosemite Sam gets his gas mask to seal? :rolleyes:

His threat profile doesn't dictate a need for CBRN equipment, just ballistic protection.

markm
02-20-13, 11:32
Tag for beard/kevlar tips.

Dave L.
02-20-13, 12:55
We run OpsCore helmets and I just run the strap under my chin, not utilizing the "chin cup".

I you can buy a fleece cover from OpsCore (http://www.ops-core.com/Fleece_Chincup_Extender_Cove_P16C5.cfm) to slide over it, but my beard adds plenty of padding I don't even notice the stitching.

Even wearing PVS-15's, balanced by an EOD LBM helmet weight, I can comfortably wear it without using the chin cup.

Edit: plus it's way easier to talk and eat Cliff Bars this way!

rockmyglock
02-20-13, 14:45
Yeah the talking thing is what really gets me. When using the chin cup in the prescribed manner (on the chin), I have to tighten down my adjustment straps to the point of my jaw being near immobile (for the straps to compress the padding that is my beard and stabilize the helmet). Which then causes all the discomfort associated with wearing the helmet.

I'm going to try the strap under chin without extender configuration tonight.

Question, do you feel that the weighted counterbalance is crucial in this setup? Otherwise, would the cantilever created by the NVDs cause the strap to press against airway and larynx?

Guns-up.50
02-20-13, 20:21
We run OpsCore helmets and I just run the strap under my chin, not utilizing the "chin cup".

I you can buy a fleece cover from OpsCore (http://www.ops-core.com/Fleece_Chincup_Extender_Cove_P16C5.cfm) to slide over it, but my beard adds plenty of padding I don't even notice the stitching.

Even wearing PVS-15's, balanced by an EOD LBM helmet weight, I can comfortably wear it without using the chin cup.

Edit: plus it's way easier to talk and eat Cliff Bars this way!

^^^^ this

I dont think my chin strap was ever on my chin, always under

J8127
02-20-13, 22:36
You don't need a helmet with face armor, duh.

markm
02-21-13, 07:18
You don't need a helmet with face armor, duh.

BINGO!

and that HOMO pic at the top of this thread is disturbing!

http://www.popularairsoft.com/files/images/tboc_patches_closeup_brown.jpg

Armati
02-21-13, 10:43
As you can tell by the pics, 'cool guys' don't wear helmets - only plate carriers and Oakleys. They don't need tops either - just a t-shirt. You see, the more 'high speed' you are, the less likely you are to get blown up, shot or set on fire. That shit only happens to Joe.

However, to answer the OP, my recommendation would be to cut all of your hair with clippers around #1 or #2 in length. It gives you a sort of militant Hezbollah look and you can still fasten your chinstrap.

Smash
02-21-13, 11:22
I think its pretty obvious you need to go with one from Schutt.

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g342/F2SConsulting/0F004400-3E87-4842-9184-6CA5C1AFA9F6-4877-000003C0F481A7BA_zpsca679e11.jpg

Dave L.
02-22-13, 04:43
Question, do you feel that the weighted counterbalance is crucial in this setup? Otherwise, would the cantilever created by the NVDs cause the strap to press against airway and larynx?

With PVS-15's I do. They weight anywhere from 1.4-1.6 lbs. depending on what Mfg. you check with.

My EOG LBM pouch (http://www.explosiveopsgear.com/catalog/item/5995070/9226460.htm) is nice, not very low profile, but very handy. The only thing i would change about it would be to add a top Velcro strap to go over top of the pouch and attach to the loop Velcro on the opposite sides.

Without the counter weight, I would have a sore neck and that's about it.

they
02-26-13, 17:13
His threat profile doesn't dictate a need for CBRN equipment, just ballistic protection.

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