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plouffedaddy
02-22-13, 21:11
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The Glock 19 is probably the most popular gun in America and for good reason---it's reasonably priced, reliable, rugged, accurate, and simple to maintain. But in the last couple years its' reputation has taken a hit and some of that came from me. I had a Gen4 G19 (PYU###) serial number and it was terrible---malfunctions/brass to the face/erratic ejection/ect... Well Glock replaced that gun and that gun is what this review's about. Let's get into it...
Pros:
-Reliable. The gun has had 0 malfunctions
-Accurate. It's more accurate than I am, that's for sure.
-Durable -Easy to maintain
-TONS of aftermarket support due to its' popularity and longevity.
-Accepts 15, 17, and 33 round factory magazines
-Glock's customer service is excellent
-Durable finish
-Cheap replacement parts, should you ever need them
-Low Bore Axis resulting in a soft shooting gun, especially for the weight.
-Easily modified to fit the shooters' preferences
-Requires very little cleaning/lubrication to run reliably
-"Medium-sized" frame works well for both duty use and concealed carry.
-Improved grip texture on the Gen4 guns
Cons:
-Recent history of problems in the post 2010 models
-Comes with a serrated trigger (even the US models)
-Availability these days.
Chrono numbers:
Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p : 1232 FPS, 418 FT/LBS energy
Federal HST 124gr : 1155 FPS, 367 FT/LBS energy
Here's a video with some shooting from the 12m line, a size comparison, a demonstration of shooting it with some loads often blamed for the recent issues, and a chronograph test with some popular carry/defensive loads:
Gen 4 Glock 19 HD Video Review Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYzk-DcYGo8)
I lub mine. Used it for my CHL test.
Glock 19 is the go to sidearm for all duties
I just picked up my G19 Gen 4 tonight. Cant wait to get it to the range!
LESSTHANZERO
02-23-13, 02:27
Thank you for the video & excellent review.
Good review. Good to know that Glock has addressed the dipped extractor issue.I'd like to see more on how that's working out on more guns.
What is the serial number prefix of your new G19? I have a Gen 4 G19 with serial number SW#### that has not given me any problems.
plouffedaddy
02-25-13, 08:40
What is the serial number prefix of your new G19? I have a Gen 4 G19 with serial number SW#### that has not given me any problems.
SAS###
twistedcomrade
02-25-13, 09:07
Great review. I have a Gen 4 G21 that shoots great and is very accurate. It does however throw brass in my face three or four times per mag using Remington 100 rd HP ammo. This is about the only ammo I have been able to find. I wonder if I have an extractor issue because most of the complaints I have read are with 9mm Glocks.
SAS###
Thank you. My Glock 19 has a fairly low round count, so I was not sure whether or not mine would be problematic. It sounds like I should be good to go.
morbidbattlecry
02-25-13, 15:34
I'd love to pick up a Gen4 FDE 19
I'd love to pick up a Gen4 FDE 19
Good luck finding one that isn't ridiculously priced. They are in GB for $800+. I have a gen3 that some guy offered me $850 for at the range the other day. I, luckily, got mine right before the election for $500 OTD.
Absolute BS
02-25-13, 20:17
My 19 is my go to work horse. I carry it every day.
ScottieG59
02-25-13, 23:30
I pick up the last Glock 19 Gen4 FDE in the store. I planned on getting the 19 for a while and I did so right before the AR15 panic spread to handguns.
I replaced the stock plastic sights with Trijicon HD Night Sights. I can easily rack the slide by hook ink the rear site and the front sight is easy and fast onto target.
It shows dirt and powder more than a black frame. It has become my primary carry gun.
New trigger bar is of course a very easy swap. Little extra money but wouldn't hold it against the gun.
Kuro Ookami
02-26-13, 07:54
Have they fixed the ejection issues with the Glocks yet? These reviews keep pushing me toward getting one.
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brickboy240
02-26-13, 10:35
Apex fixed the ejection issues.
My problematic G19 has gone almost 800rds since installing their extractor and not one piece of brass has come even close to my head.
In fact, my 3rd gen G19 has a similar ejection pattern of my old 2nd gen G17.
I have read of several recent G19 and G17 buyers that have never had the brass to the face issues so maybe Glock quietly fixed this problem?
Either way...Apex has you covered if this shows up.
-brickboy240
Glock's 30274 ejector in 2011/2012 helped. I know of no changes to the extractor design itself. If you watch the video you can see the extractor is still very dependent on the magazine for case support. Ejection was better with the stock G19 mags than the 33 rounder.
Good luck finding one that isn't ridiculously priced. They are in GB for $800+. I have a gen3 that some guy offered me $850 for at the range the other day. I, luckily, got mine right before the election for $500 OTD.
Whoa! I'd sell him my RTF2 G19 for that!!! Wow.
Glock's 30274 ejector in 2011/2012 helped. I know of no changes to the extractor design itself. If you watch the video you can see the extractor is still very dependent on the magazine for case support. Ejection was better with the stock G19 mags than the 33 rounder.
Both of my Glock gen 4s (17 with 336 and 19 with 30274) both eject normally without a magazine.
Whoa! I'd sell him my RTF2 G19 for that!!! Wow.
You can hold out for more if you wanted. Had a guy offer to buy my OD g27 for a grand yesterday.
Mine, dated late 2012 works flawlessly. Good write up.
Both of my Glock gen 4s (17 with 336 and 19 with 30274) both eject normally without a magazine.Sorry I'd have to see that...
Both of my Glock gen 4s (17 with 336 and 19 with 30274) both eject normally without a magazine.
Out of our many we have only a few that will also. But I've never done the 100 rds without a mag test like the Apex extractor beta testers did. Just trying one or two w/o mag from time to time.
Out of our many we have only a few that will also. But I've never done the 100 rds without a mag test like the Apex extractor beta testers did. Just trying one or two w/o mag from time to time.
Yeah, I didn't do 100 rounds either, just about 20-30 while doing the ball and dummy by myself.
I was using 9x19 NATO rounds however, not commercial spec ammo.
Beat Trash
03-01-13, 11:05
So I'm getting the impression it may now be safer to buy a newly produced Gen4 Glock 19?
Assuming one can be found that is...
20-30 is plenty. A mag is fine really. He's shooting duty ammo in the vid also but not sure it would pass the 1911 test.
Trajan, ever run them with weak 115gr? If you only care if it runs duty ammo I certainly understand that argument too.
WickedWillis
03-01-13, 11:33
I have never had any issues with ejection on my Gen4 19.
20-30 is plenty. A mag is fine really. He's shooting duty ammo in the vid also but not sure it would pass the 1911 test.
Trajan, ever run them with weak 115gr? If you only care if it runs duty ammo I certainly understand that argument too.
No, when I did that it was just with the NATO stuff.
I don't think I've ever put anything weaker than American Eagle 124 gr through these guns.
Just picked up a 2011 dated G19 Gen 4 with an 'RAG---' serial. It was a trade, and came to me with very light use. I'm hoping it runs correctly, and with no need for adjustment.
Both of my Glock gen 4s (17 with 336 and 19 with 30274) both eject normally without a magazine.
Out of our many we have only a few that will also. But I've never done the 100 rds without a mag test like the Apex extractor beta testers did. Just trying one or two w/o mag from time to time.
That test is not as definitive a diagnostic as some would have you believe. It is not even particularly useful in Glocks. There are a number of Glocks in different models and calibers that will drop rounds out of their magwells consistently, yet eject a wide variety of loads with great vigor.
So I'm getting the impression it may now be safer to buy a newly produced Gen4 Glock 19?
If you believed it was unsafe before, I guess it's fair to say it's better now. Most just bought and shot them, and found the overwhelming majority to be just fine.
Without a definitive criteria to include or exclude a gun in the problem definition, it's all mostly subjective anyway.
Assuming one can be found that is...
They're shipping. I was just notified that several I requested last month are now available. A major sporting goods retailer nearby just got several in as well, and they've been sitting on the shelf.
I woke up bright and early this morning, and ran 240 rounds through my recently acquired G19 (Gen 4) with case test dated 2011, and RAG--- serial.
100 rounds WWB 115
100 rounds Federal Champion 115
20 rounds Speer Gold Dot 9mm 124 +P
20 rounds Speer Gold Dot 9mm 147
0 failures, 0 brass near my head (or torso). It was exactly what I hoped for in a range visit.
I REALLY like the Speer 147 for this. It was incredibly soft and flat shooting. I've always been biased toward heavy for caliber, but the combination of that round's characteristics and the Gen 4 spring is even more awesome than the 147 out of a PPQ. It's almost like shooting a .22.
hotrodder636
03-02-13, 12:12
Nice review plouffedaddy, I enjoy your YouTube channel, get some more stuff on there, LOL!
I REALLY like the Speer 147 for this. It was incredibly soft and flat shooting. I've always been biased toward heavy for caliber, but the combination of that round's characteristics and the Gen 4 spring is even more awesome than the 147 out of a PPQ. It's almost like shooting a .22.
Agreed. The 147s in the gen4 9mms are soft shooters. I shoot a lot ofd the Federal 9MS, along with the 147 HST and GDHP. Nice setup.
That test is not as definitive a diagnostic as some would have you believe. It is not even particularly useful in Glocks. There are a number of Glocks in different models and calibers that will drop rounds out of their magwells consistently, yet eject a wide variety of loads with great vigor.
Agreed. Diagnostic or not, it's never been a concern to me in our guns which have run 10's of thousands of round with a handful of stoppages between them.
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