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adrenaline151
02-27-13, 17:05
My Agency Policy states that I have to carry my rifle with a spare loaded mag attached to the rifle. What is the best way to do this? I have seen some of the guys have mags on the butt stocks, but I don't really like that. What ways have you carried extra mags - attached to your rifle - and liked it? Pics? Thanks!
a redi-mag maybe? I've never used one but seen them here and there.
thopkins22
02-27-13, 17:20
A Redi-Mag or a Redi-Mod if you can find one is the only way to roll.
Failure2Stop
02-27-13, 17:20
My vote is for a Redi-Mod/Redi-Mag
I have the newer aluminum redimag. Its well built and costs around $150 from Brownells.
I have it on my personal weapon for agency use. I cant believe they would mandate you carying the extra mag on the gun though. Adds weight for sure. Use poly mags and shave some of it off.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/28/atyje4er.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/28/pybesatu.jpg
Redimag is the only sensical way. My dept tried the nylon mag holder strapped to the collapsible stock. It worked but the flopping around annoys me.
DiabhailGadhar
02-27-13, 18:37
Yeah it was the same thing in Iraq we had to carry two full mags on us...some people used their cargo pockets...I tried that for a bit but as you can imagine nothing says fun like having a fully loaded mag bang against the side of your knee as you wonder around the base. Then I scored a mag pouch for the end of the rifle, way better then the cargo pocket but still not feasible as you have to pull the rifle out of your shoulder pocket to get at it and your line of sight will go away from the reason you were reaching for the second mag to begin with. I would def recommend the redi-mod/mag, but just be proficient with it as the two types and generations work similar but different. Also the weight shouldn't be an issue as some have mentioned as I'm sure your duration of lugging the added weight around wouldn't be as long as a soldier/Marine.
NeoNeanderthal
02-27-13, 18:50
If you cant stomach the price of a redi-mag, I'm wondering if you can get away with a mag coupler?
...Adds weight for sure. Use poly mags and shave some of it off.
Believe it or not, USGI aluminum mag is slightly lighter than Pmag.
cougar_guy04
02-27-13, 19:07
Not to echo the chorus, but another vote for the Redi Mag here. I've got an older steel one, but the weight isn't much of an issue (and it's fixable with a Bridgeport or a Dremel if it becomes one).
Depending on line of work consider redi-mag + 2 20 rounders.
Redi-Mod or Aluminum Redi-Mag hands down. Have both and recommend either.
-Jax
Or just get a magazine coupler for 20 bucks.
http://www.patriotoutfitters.com/Magpul/MAG595-BLK.htm
If you cant stomach the price of a redi-mag, I'm wondering if you can get away with a mag coupler?
Neo,
Since the introduction of the aluminum redi-mag the steel versions' price has dropped considerably.
Mag couplers suck in my opinion.
-Jax
Neo,
Since the introduction of the aluminum redi-mag the steel versions' price has dropped considerably.
Mag couplers suck in my opinion.
-Jax
Yeah they're not ideal. I have a mag link I can send to the OP if he'd like to try it though.
FAB defense makes a stock that can hold a mag on it. Here is a pic
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/kyrin88/272-glmag-png-Mon-Jul-23-12-32-40_zps814355e7.png
RogerinTPA
02-27-13, 19:39
Another vote for Redi-Mods/Mags.
It works
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazine-parts/magazine-hardware/ar-15-m16-ar-style-pmag-coupler-prod27286.aspx
I won't disagree with the redimag suggestions. The stock pouch is all right when the military makes you use one. After Iraq I never used one again. Another option might be what I used to do for many years which was to use "ranger bands" or pieces of inner tube and put the mag right on the stock. It's secure, cheap and is low profile.
Why can't you carry one on your duty rig or on your belt if plain cloth?
I carry a 20 rounder in a safariland pistol/rifle mag holder or in a bladetech msv holder if working plain clothe.
Opps, sorry I forgot about Dept. Policy. My bad.
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I would try to find something that will attach your spare magazine to the buttstock or someplace else. I had two magazines taped together on a M-14 and I wrecked both of them at the same time, which is a long story. A magazine in a separate location would get you up and running more quickly.
FAB defense makes a stock that can hold a mag on it. Here is a pic
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/kyrin88/272-glmag-png-Mon-Jul-23-12-32-40_zps814355e7.png
I've seen these but have not heard anything about them - anybody out there?
the website has a video also:
http://www.zahal.org/products/buttstock-with-built-in-mag-carrier?path_parent=218965
they have a couple of other unorthodox mag carry solutions(maybe actually orthodox - Israel after all)
This one comes to mind.. http://www.zahal.org/products/quick-release-m16-m4-short-long-hg?path_parent=153453
GH
Believe it or not, USGI aluminum mag is slightly lighter than Pmag.
For realz? Damn...i gotta check that out on a scale for my own eyes.
Another vote for a RediMag or RediMod.
The_Hammer_Man
02-28-13, 07:44
I've seen these but have not heard anything about them - anybody out there?
the website has a video also:
http://www.zahal.org/products/buttstock-with-built-in-mag-carrier?path_parent=218965
they have a couple of other unorthodox mag carry solutions(maybe actually orthodox - Israel after all)
They are T&Eing these here in Wisconsin as we speak. I think it might be catching on too. I've received inquiries about them several times in the last few weeks.
Given that they, usually, don't have the "on the weapon not on your person" mandate from higher, carry either in a mag pouch or in their "ready bags" with their first responder gear.
The stock will hold either 20 rounders or 30's. Looks a bit awkward with a 30 hanging out of it but it works.
it is not as fast on the reload as a redi-mag/mod is but, it IS a viable low cost option that doesn't mess with your handling of the weapon.
The_Hammer_Man
02-28-13, 07:47
This one comes to mind.. http://www.zahal.org/products/quick-release-m16-m4-short-long-hg?path_parent=153453
GH
this one actually makes sense. Heaven knows the Israeli's are the wonderkin of improvised munitions and their accessories.
This one comes to mind.. http://www.zahal.org/products/quick-release-m16-m4-short-long-hg?path_parent=153453
GH
I like the way this looks. If you jump out of your squad car with your rifle for any reason and don't grab your ready bag, this would double your available ammunition.
DiabhailGadhar
02-28-13, 08:08
Any thoughts on weapons manupulations with the added weight so far forward? I would think you would have alot of change in the way you'd do things before and after you removed a full 30 Rd mag from the front of your rifle like that.. Atleast with the redi mod there its being moved from the same spot and there is still weight there. And it's much farther to the rear..
it is not as fast on the reload as a redi-mag/mod is but, it IS a viable low cost option that doesn't mess with your handling of the weapon.
Keeping the extra weight between the hands is going to be optimal, assuming your rifle is well balanced to begin with. A mag coupler (or even a separation block and some rigger's tape) would serve the requirement until you decided whether the Redi-Mod was right for you. I'd definitely use a P-Mag with storage cover on the off mag to keep debris out of it.
Grobdriver
02-28-13, 11:15
I've seen these but have not heard anything about them - anybody out there?
I have one of those and use it with a 20-round Pmag.
A 30-round mag is usable.
The 10 rounder they provide with the stock becomes invisible.
The stock keeps the weight of the extra mag up against the shoulder and doesn't affect the balance (while shouldered - otherwise it's obviously tail heavy).
A problem is they are only available in non-mil-spec tube size.
I like it, gimmicky or not.
Edit - these are available from the Mako Group, not Magpul.
This one comes to mind.. http://www.zahal.org/products/quick-release-m16-m4-short-long-hg?path_parent=153453
GH
Looks interesting, I would like to see some feedback on the setup though.
FAB defense makes a stock that can hold a mag on it. Here is a pic
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/kyrin88/272-glmag-png-Mon-Jul-23-12-32-40_zps814355e7.png
Given the same imposed choice I would opt for this. It would seem to me that much like other unneccesary rules it is best to do as little as possible to comply, yet follow the rule.
I have one of those double-magazines (mag coupler) and I never use it. It simply changes the balance of the weapon and makes it that much more unwieldy. At least in the stock you can use a lower-capacity magazine and it is out of the way.
However, wouldn't a standard capacity magazine in that stock get in the way? Glad to hear someone say it is not a problem with a 30 rounder... but perhaps the other post saying it makes it tail heavy....I dunno.
What EXACTLY does your department's policy say, word for word?
Grobdriver
02-28-13, 12:38
However, wouldn't a standard capacity magazine in that stock get in the way?
Actually. it's not that bad.
Watch the video on their site - the mag isn't in the way at all while shooting. Other weapon handling would take some getting used to with a standard mag hanging out.
A mag change takes longer than from a belt holder, but the ergonomics are right on.
I missed your video link, so thanks for the suggestion. The video answers that.....
Looks like the OP is MIA...
if you remember the styer scout tactical had a similar stock....
....in the early 80"s....... lol
The_Hammer_Man
02-28-13, 15:53
if you remember the styer scout tactical had a similar stock....
....in the early 80"s....... lol
You're dating yourself.. and me too. The Styer product was a bolt gun though.
I'm going to stick one of these on one of my lowers and see how it balances out with a patrol rig. (RDS+light+ hand stop or stubby vert grip)
Failure2Stop
02-28-13, 16:07
However, wouldn't a standard capacity magazine in that stock get in the way?
Actually. it's not that bad.
Watch the video on their site - the mag isn't in the way at all while shooting. Other weapon handling would take some getting used to with a standard mag hanging out.
A mag change takes longer than from a belt holder, but the ergonomics are right on.
I'm not seeing how a 30 rounder sticking out of the bottom of the stock isn't going to make a magazine monopod prone position run out of upward elevation really fast.
I'm not seeing a benefit to the stock over a Redi-Mag.
Further interested in the drop testing results of the mag-stock.
The_Hammer_Man
02-28-13, 16:07
The idea of having extra mags around is an old one. Some forms of it work better than others.
Probably my favorite is this lil guy that is my "go to hell" squirrel rifle :)
http://www.izhmash-arms.ru/eim/imp/64.html
Got a used one several years ago and have been real happy with it.
Another vote for Redimag/Redimod. It keeps a spare magazine handy and you wont lose 1/2 of your ammo loadout if you have to dump a mag during a malfunction. Weight wise, its 1 more pound . Not really a big deal for me so far.
My Agency Policy states that I have to carry my rifle with a spare loaded mag attached to the rifle. What is the best way to do this? I have seen some of the guys have mags on the butt stocks, but I don't really like that. What ways have you carried extra mags - attached to your rifle - and liked it? Pics? Thanks!
As has been said about a dozen times, Redi-Mag/Mod is the way to go. I had one for a while and liked it but, like an idiot, I sold it.
If it's something you need right away, I'd look at a mag coupler. They work okay and will get you by until you pick up a RM.
Then again there's always Caribou Chrome! ;)
Duty rifle carries a redi-mag w/2 20s. When the DDM4 arrives it'll wear the new aluminum Redi-mag and it'll hit the street.
Granted, all my AR trigger time has been with a Redi-Mag. So, manual of arms, weight distribution, etc. is second nature. Those who have more exposure than I have said the transition isn't too bad.
DiabhailGadhar
02-28-13, 21:32
The op should have just turned this into a poll...
Redi-mag/mod> 90%
Duct Tape> 9%
All other stupid crap> 1%
I voted duct tape, but it had to be done. A. Marine B. from Indiana:D
Duty rifle carries a redi-mag w/2 20s. When the DDM4 arrives it'll wear the new aluminum Redi-mag and it'll hit the street.
Granted, all my AR trigger time has been with a Redi-Mag. So, manual of arms, weight distribution, etc. is second nature. Those who have more exposure than I have said the transition isn't too bad.
If you are switching from the 2nd generation of the Redi Mag to the aluminum one there is no difference in operation.
The first gen has no separate mag release. It is tied into the rifle's magazine release and drops both mags simultaneously. The 2nd gen, Redi Mod, and aluminum version has the separate mag release.
Besides the weight savings benefit of the Al. version it is also a much better design. Especially the way it mounts. Excellent machining & finish (something lacking in previous versions) as well.
-Jax
If you are switching from the 2nd generation of the Redi Mag to the aluminum one there is no difference in operation.
The first gen has no separate mag release. It is tied into the rifle's magazine release and drops both mags simultaneously. The 2nd gen, Redi Mod, and aluminum version has the separate mag release.
Besides the weight savings benefit of the Al. version it is also a much better design. Especially the way it mounts. Excellent machining & finish (something lacking in previous versions) as well.
-Jax
That got me thinking about something. Two things about running with an empty redi-mag...
Damage
Is there potential to damage the redi-mag running it without a magazine.... say you are running drills and you end up with an empty redi-mag... it bounces against your chest, the dirt, etc. Is it susceptible to potential damage?
Comfort
I would assume a redi-mag with a magazine will lay against the body correctly when using a sling. How is it when the redi-mag is empty? Does it snag/catch against chest gear, etc.
Neo,
Since the introduction of the aluminum redi-mag the steel versions' price has dropped considerably.
Mag couplers suck in my opinion.
-Jax
mag couplers suck in his opinion.
mine too...
mag couplers suck in his opinion.
mine too...
That's an understatement.
That got me thinking about something. Two things about running with an empty redi-mag...
Damage
Is there potential to damage the redi-mag running it without a magazine.... say you are running drills and you end up with an empty redi-mag... it bounces against your chest, the dirt, etc. Is it susceptible to potential damage?
Comfort
I would assume a redi-mag with a magazine will lay against the body correctly when using a sling. How is it when the redi-mag is empty? Does it snag/catch against chest gear, etc.
Unless you take a hammer to it you will be fine. Its thick. As for comfort, no problems empty or loaded.
Here are some close ups of the redimag on my gun.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/a4u4agah.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/ydygedyp.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/u3une9yz.jpg
ramairthree
03-02-13, 13:23
I have one of the first model redi-mags,
I stopped rolling with it because I ended up preferring the narrower profile with it off, and because despite having a super fast first reload, even with tons of practice it will at times get in your way on subsequent reloads even in the light, let alone in the dark, and slow your subsequent reloads.
Now, if you are not carrying your carbine for hours and doing tons of stuff with it slung or in your hands,
for example it is in your trunk or rack and you pull it out when you need it and have no other mags on your kit, then it is your best option.
I have played with various taped mags and couplers for decades. That is an option also, though I never fell in love with any.
adrenaline151
03-02-13, 17:07
Well, I would love to go with the redi-mag, which seems to be the only real option worth considering... but after looking at the way the rifle mounts in the sky-rack, I don't think it will fit with a redi-mag installed on the rifle. I will have to look into it more, but I don't have the sky-rack installed in my truck yet so I will have to wait until I get a chance to really take a good look at one of the trucks that have the sky-rack installed. Thanks for the replies!
Suwannee Tim
03-02-13, 19:06
Isn't it odd that an agency would require you to carry a spare on the gun? Seems like micromanagement to me.
Another plus on the aluminum version is that if you have a .22 training upper the al. Redi-Mag does take the Smith M&P 22 magazines. So if you have the Boonie Packer mag well adapter your rifle will take the Redi-Mag, Smith mags, and will lock the bolt back on last round. Nice clone to train with if your primary is set up identically.
-Jax
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/u3une9yz.jpg
Wow, that thing is a beast. I am with ramairthree. I wouldn't run with it on my rifle unless compelled to do so.
Well...it is a close up pic.
Wow, that thing is a beast. I am with ramairthree. I wouldn't run with it on my rifle unless compelled to do so.
You're making a judgement on a piece of gear because of a photo?
-Jax
To be fair to the makers of this equipment, I will take a series of pix off of my gun. then putting it on so people unfamiliar can have a better idea of it.
To be fair to the makers of this equipment, I will take a series of pix off of my gun. then putting it on so people unfamiliar can have a better idea of it.
That would be appreciated.
/back to lurk mode
I used a redi-mag on my rifle for a few years, I ended up taking it off because I hated the extra weight of having a redi-mag + extra mag on the gun. I keep a spare 20 rounder mag in my vest and I have a bail-out bag with 6 mags.
However, if your agency requires it to be on the gun than I would probably get the lightest possible redi-mag available...
Aluminum version:
http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/jaxman7/2013-02-23_16-59-26_555_zpsf4163adf.jpg
http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/jaxman7/2013-02-23_16-58-31_224_zpsfc3e09b1.jpg
Redi-Mod:
http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/jaxman7/2013-02-19_17-11-06_108_zps6054bac1.jpg
http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/jaxman7/IMG_20121208_164622.jpg
Neo,
Since the introduction of the aluminum redi-mag the steel versions' price has dropped considerably.
Mag couplers suck in my opinion.
-Jax
I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.
Thanks.
You're making a judgement on a piece of gear because of a photo?
-Jax
No, making a judgment on a piece of gear because I already abhor a whole bunch of extra gear on my rifle. Fortunately I went through that phase of my collecting habits.
This is no subtle addition to a rifle, especially once you latch on that full magazine.
I feel bad for the guy that is required to make such a heavy addition, but I understand that for those in the fight... have a different set of variables to contend with.
Fortunately I can enjoy my ignorant bliss and not have to consider such weighty decisions that could mean life or death... especially for someone actually on the front lines of the WOD or some other battle in far-away lands.
I must say that is one sweet setup Jaxman. Looks awesome, and I would imagine quite effective for you.
I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.
Thanks.
I haven't used one, but I've seen plenty of people post downsides.
If you hit the mag release as you normally would with any other setup, you just dumped your next perfectly good magazine as well as the empty/bad one. You have to remember to grab the mag(s) before hitting the mag release.
If the other magazine is open-topped, the top round can walk forward under recoil or as a result of your movement, and cause a malfunction when it doesn't feed properly.
If the other magazine is open-topped, you can get debris or who-knows-what in the magazine.
If the other magazine is not open-topped, you have to take an additional action...such as removing a PMAG's dust cover...before you can insert the mag, at which point simply going to your belt or chest rig or whatever for your mag is probably as fast/faster.
And of course the extra weight.
A redi mag or redi mod would seem to address/solve these issues. Hit the mag release and you only dump the mag that's in the gun, and the top of the mag is covered to prevent the top round from walking forward + protect it from debris.
Although, as mentioned in this thread, people still see downsides to that...but it sure seems better than coupled mags, as long as you can live with having the thing on the side of your rifle even if/when you choose not to use it.
My personal perspective is a regular joe six-pack who primarily uses his carbine for home defense/personal defense and shooting at the range + in matches and training. I don't have a bunch of gear or kit. The only mag pouch I have is a simple single mag holster for my belt. I keep it next to the carbine in the corner of the bedroom. I have seriously considered putting another mag on the rifle, so that I do have a spare mag in case something goes wrong with the first one or I have a malfunction to clear or the world ends and I could actually use more ammo. If I really wanted a spare mag on the rifle, a redi mod is probably what I'd go with. And I might. Then even if I take the rifle on the road with me, or go somewhere with it, or whatever, I don't have to pick up a single thing other than the rifle itself and I still get a spare mag.
I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.
Thanks.
I tried a couple different versions out a few years ago so if I miss an important point out feel free to add.
1. Magazine couplers are typically loaded with the right mag inserted into the magwell. When the left mag is inserted this leaves the right side mag sitting directly over the magazine release. Making it more difficult. to access the button if another mag is needed or if a malfunction that necessitates removing it from the magazine well.
2. If you do need to remove a magazine to clear a malfunction (or even just perform a mag change) under stress you can insert the wrong one. I've done it myself.
3. The possibility of rounds jumping the feedlips on the uninserted magazine. Companies such as Brownells make covers (and of course the PMAG dustcover) for them to keep this from happening but that is just something else to go wrong and slow you down.
4. Two mags coupled together are more difficult to manipulate.
5. Another malfunction related issue: If the uninserted mag is on the left side and you need to lock the bolt to the rear the left mag can make that manipulation slightly more difficult. For me at least es of course the same issues arises w/the Redi-Mag which is one reason I would never run one without a BAD lever.
Most of the above can be chalked up to a raining makes perfect issue but in my humble opinion their are better more efficient alternatives.
-Jax
No, making a judgment on a piece of gear because I already abhor a whole bunch of extra gear on my rifle. Fortunately I went through that phase of my collecting habits.
This is no subtle addition to a rifle, especially once you latch on that full magazine.
I feel bad for the guy that is required to make such a heavy addition, but I understand that for those in the fight... have a different set of variables to contend with.
Fortunately I can enjoy my ignorant bliss and not have to consider such weighty decisions that could mean life or death... especially for someone actually on the front lines of the WOD or some other battle in far-away lands.
I must say that is one sweet setup Jaxman. Looks awesome, and I would imagine quite effective for you.
Ick,
My post probably came off rude. Apologies for that.
I can appreciate your points but the extra weight is offset by the ability to have another magazine directly on the gun for my purposes.
-Jax
Yeah, I see the advantage there. I think the redi-mag is the better choice if one HAS to run something. I also see why guys CHOOSE to have the extra magazine when warranted.
Adrenaline,
By "sky-rack" are you speaking of this?
http://www.bigskyracks.com/2010/09/els-270/
Mounted above your head to the cage/roof?
If so, that's how our Redi-Mag equipped rifles ride. I'll snap a pic tomorrow night when I'm back out.
But, they work fine/great. No interference.
On another note, I'm not sure about his department, but ours has us carry a PMAG20 of "penetrators" and another in the Redi-Mag of what someone has deemed a "residential structure safe" soft nose round to protect against shooting through multiple homes, apparently.
The majority of our jurisdiction is industrial, with only a small residential area. When assigned to the residential area, soft nose are in the mag well, the rest of the time, the good stuff. I have been told that the rounds were a political move to placate voters nervous about their cops running around with rifles.
A small compromise in my book.
Bunch of route steppers.:smile:
adrenaline151
03-05-13, 19:16
5hortbus - yeah, our racks are similar to that, but they're doubles. We have both shotguns and rifles mounted overhead in the extended cab area of the truck. I'd love to see a pic of your rifle with redi-mag in the rack. I hope it works out that way for me.
Ok, so had to clean the gun. Took some crappy phone pix. Hopefully this will help if youve never seen one in person.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/eva2upe6.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/uju2a3er.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/7y6e2u7u.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/hejyqypu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/8u5yjy4a.jpg
Scratches are from Magpul bad lever. I liked it, but would not let bolt stay back on last shot.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/5u2ahyvu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/agusegur.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/aru8y8yn.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/06/u8u2u7yd.jpg
p22shooter30
03-06-13, 15:19
http://tickbitesupply.com/660-752.jpg
http://tickbitesupply.com/660-752-2.jpg
http://tickbitesupply.com/arstk.html
I have ordered from this guy before and i saw this on the site that might be a good solution. i dont know anything about the stock or who makes it, but i thought about giving one a try sometime
Random question. Would modding the new aluminium Redi-Mag like the older Redi-Mod be feasible or due to it being aluminium would it be a no go? I am thinking of picking up the newer aluminium Redi-mag in the near future as soon as 5.56 comes done to non-stupid levels and doing a little training with it since it could be a good piece of kit of duty work once I am familiar with it.
Appreciate any thoughts on modding it.
U can cut and trim it. People do that.
I tried a couple different versions out a few years ago so if I miss an important point out feel free to add.
1. Magazine couplers are typically loaded with the right mag inserted into the magwell. When the left mag is inserted this leaves the right side mag sitting directly over the magazine release. Making it more difficult. to access the button if another mag is needed or if a malfunction that necessitates removing it from the magazine well.
2. If you do need to remove a magazine to clear a malfunction (or even just perform a mag change) under stress you can insert the wrong one. I've done it myself.
3. The possibility of rounds jumping the feedlips on the uninserted magazine. Companies such as Brownells make covers (and of course the PMAG dustcover) for them to keep this from happening but that is just something else to go wrong and slow you down.
4. Two mags coupled together are more difficult to manipulate.
5. Another malfunction related issue: If the uninserted mag is on the left side and you need to lock the bolt to the rear the left mag can make that manipulation slightly more difficult. For me at least es of course the same issues arises w/the Redi-Mag which is one reason I would never run one without a BAD lever.
Most of the above can be chalked up to a raining makes perfect issue but in my humble opinion their are better more efficient alternatives.
-Jax
These are some good points. I'm currently using Magpul's couplers but have looked into the Redi-mag after everyone's recommendations.
My issue with the Redi-mags is that they add unecessary weight and bulk to a rifle esp if you are trying to keep a lightweight/compact setup. when unused/empty the Redimag is also somewhat uncomfortable; my roomate has a Redimag and I use the couplers, and when we exchange rifles the Redimag gets in the way for me. Personal preference/issue I guess with range and 3gun use.
I've never had issues with using the mag-release with couplers, or manipulating 2 coupled mags . I've also used Surefire60 mags, and possibly looking into the GL-Stock
I have used the older/original Redi-Mag and now use Magpul mags and coupler with Arendondo base plates. This combination not only keeps a spare mag on the gun, but the dual Arendondo base plates make for a very sturdy "mono pod."
I've been happy with both my Redi-mags. Still going strong. I would consider the Maglink as well.
SheepDogSally
03-07-13, 17:11
FAB Defense is the only way to go. allows you to carry 10, 20 or 30 rds without interference. Left handed shooters can reload without ever un-shouldering the weapon.
Redi-Mag is like using a revolver, and we know how many LEO's carry them now.
GL-Stock is the only way to go.
FAB Defense is the only way to go. allows you to carry 10, 20 or 30 rds without interference. Left handed shooters can reload without ever un-shouldering the weapon.
Redi-Mag is like using a revolver, and we know how many LEO's carry them now.
GL-Stock is the only way to go.
Nothing is the only way to go.
But I'm curious to see how a redi-mag is like using a revolver.
SheepDogSally
03-07-13, 17:37
Gives you your backup while not changing the width of rifle. Have not found it to even be a problem with a 30 round in the ready.
Attached photos are of the 10 round that comes with is, 20 round, and then 30 round. Final shot is with full load.
Gives you your backup while not changing the width of rifle.
It certainly changes other things, though.
There's no such thing as a free lunch, and no one choice is the only way to go.
Some advantages to a redi-mag over that stock:
Magazine is more quickly accessible
You get to keep your stock (stock choices are a preference, mostly)
The rifle doesn't get any taller in the back (or anywhere), even with a 20 or 30
You mentioned in your first post that "left handed shooters can reload without ever un-shouldering the weapon". That applies to a redi-mag as well. ;)
That FAB stock does have some advantages. But other choices, such as a redi-mag, are bound to be a better choice for some people.
There's no such thing as a free lunch, and no one choice is the only way to go.
My thoughts exactly.
Littlelebowski
03-08-13, 09:15
FAB Defense is the only way to go. allows you to carry 10, 20 or 30 rds without interference. Left handed shooters can reload without ever un-shouldering the weapon.
Redi-Mag is like using a revolver, and we know how many LEO's carry them now.
GL-Stock is the only way to go.
We can only assume that you have extensive training time with this setup.
Gives you your backup while not changing the width of rifle. Have not found it to even be a problem with a 30 round in the ready.
Attached photos are of the 10 round that comes with is, 20 round, and then 30 round. Final shot is with full load.
No E-Lander mag??? :rolleyes:
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