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45DAVID1
03-05-13, 09:45
It isn't just here but on many forums. Why do some brands get bashed so much? I have a $700 3 digit s/n Stag that I've had since 2003ish. That rifle ran much better than my $2000 POF P415.

I have found that most people only like XXX brand because someone else with a big name uses one or someone told them that they heard from someone else that quality control is bad.

So my question is... why is there so much bashing of the smaller upcoming brands when each of the bigger companies had to start small themselves.
Littlelebowski
03-05-13, 09:49
It's because we're all snobs that are desperately trying to justify our brand name purchases when we know deep down that the "lesser" brands are just as good and we wish we were smart shoppers like you.
William B.
03-05-13, 09:51
Start reading the links here https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355 and here https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009.
NoveskeFan
03-05-13, 09:52
It isn't just here but on many forums...

A clue. Reputations are earned over time.


It's because we're all snobs that are desperately trying to justify our brand name purchases when we know deep down that the "lesser" brands are just as good and we wish we were smart shoppers like you.

I was so stupid to get rid of my Doublestar:D
45DAVID1
03-05-13, 09:54
It's because we're all snobs that are desperately trying to justify our brand name purchases when we know deep down that the "lesser" brands are just as good and we wish we were smart shoppers like you.

I wouldn't say I'm a smart shopper. I "had" 3 Noveskes and got rid of them. I should have kept them. The POF I had is gone too. The only 1 I kept was the Stag because that was the most reliable of them all.
markm
03-05-13, 09:55
Another Californian who knows SO MUCH that isn't true. Priceless.
NoveskeFan
03-05-13, 09:56
I wouldn't say I'm a smart shopper. I "had" 3 Noveskes and got rid of them. I should have kept them. The POF I had is gone too. The only 1 I kept was the Stag because that was the most reliable of them all.

What ammo were you running? How many rounds through them over what time frame?
Littlelebowski
03-05-13, 09:58
I wouldn't say I'm a smart shopper. I "had" 3 Noveskes and got rid of them. I should have kept them. The POF I had is gone too. The only 1 I kept was the Stag because that was the most reliable of them all.

Oh, so you're just a fan boy of those instructors that are paid to endorse stuff unlike the rest of us. Congratulations on seeing the Matrix.
FAB45
03-05-13, 10:01
You're new here so let me warn you, you're about to get destroyed. This is a place for learning, not a place for brand popularity contests. The brands you mentioned have been combat proven. As one moderator here puts it, your carbine is first and foremost a fighting tool anything else is extra. While xxxx brand may do well as a range/hobby rifle, it may not be combat proven.
markm
03-05-13, 10:03
The gun that killed Bin Ladoid was actually a STAG. ..little known STAG FAG Factoid for you boys.
45DAVID1
03-05-13, 10:03
Another Californian who knows SO MUCH that isn't true. Priceless.

Right... It's all about where people live that bases what they know? Priceless.
45DAVID1
03-05-13, 10:05
What ammo were you running? How many rounds through them over what time frame?

M855, SS109, 25,000 rounds over it's life in 3 barrels.
Littlelebowski
03-05-13, 10:05
Right... It's all about where people live that bases what they know? Priceless.

You've already got it all figured out, not sure why you even need to post here. We're all just sycophantic fanboys who deny the hard, cheap truth of what you speak, in a desperate attempt to justify our purchases. Or maybe is it that we can't think past what the instructors tell us? I mean, you're probably too good to need instruction, right?
JSantoro
03-05-13, 10:06
The only 1 I kept was the Stag because that was the most reliable of them all.

...which ends up being the ultimate goal.

It's not really bashing of brands. It's bashing of poor performance established by trends....

...which just so happens to follow certain product lines (How's THAT for sophistry!? ;) ), and the message gets lost in the medium because we're human and just can't keep things clinical.

You're gonna want to read the stickied threads, linked above.

This will help provide some background on....tone, I suppose: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=70019