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wild_wild_wes
03-10-13, 17:44
This is how I think the original M16 should have been configured, if the US military could have fully embraced the "assault rifle" concept; that is, accepting the reality that >95% of combat takes place at ranges <300m.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/retro1_zps30b4a52d.jpg

Plus, the configuration balances perfectly for me, and it just feels "right". Weight: 6lbs. 8oz.
Cagemonkey
03-10-13, 18:21
Very nice.
Airhasz
03-10-13, 18:24
We would of won the war...:p
Colt guy
03-10-13, 19:25
Looks kinda like one of mine except the A2 and magpul
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wild_wild_wes
03-10-13, 19:46
Colt guy, I'm going to do an A2 upper/16" middy in 6.5 Grendel, very similar to yours.
Colt guy
03-10-13, 20:30
A 16" middy in 6.5 Grendel with A2 upper that would be interesting. You will

have to post pictures.

:smile:
Magic_Salad0892
03-11-13, 04:20
Nah. C7A2 is what the M16 should've always been. Or... at least the M16A2.

Sweet rifle though. What length is that barrel? 16.1'' MID?
Col_Crocs
03-11-13, 05:48
Do you have m4 feedramps on that E1 upper? What barrel are you using?
Wake27
03-11-13, 07:49
Honestly, I think the MOE handguard is very hard to beat. Love the feel of it over the stock handguards personally.
wild_wild_wes
03-11-13, 08:08
Barrel is the DD 16" CHF lightweight midlength. Upper is a C7 from Fulton Armory and has M4 feedramps.

I was considering the MOE, but this rifle was concieved as a "what if"...project. Few people the round A2 handguard goes back to at least 1968.
samuse
03-11-13, 21:53
I had this one for awhile. Very light and handy.

I still wish I had it. I sold it to a friend for his first AR when he was 18.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/sammuse/ARs/100_0813.jpg
thehun
03-11-13, 22:21
Very Nice Build
Endur
03-12-13, 02:39
I like it, simple and elegant. I want to build a retro-modern style after I build the rest on my wish list. Enjoy it.
PA PATRIOT
03-12-13, 22:32
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/retro1_zps30b4a52d.jpg

Very Nice,

Giving my old Colt H-Bar (The screwed version with sear block and neutered bolt) a make over by swapping out the stock barrel with a FN 5.56 CL 16" Mid-Length Pencil Profile with a standard A-2 hand guard and a undecided adjustable or fixed stock.

But now that I see how nice the basic A-1 stock looks with A-2 hand guard I might just go that route.
wild_wild_wes
03-13-13, 07:39
The buttstock is a CavArms C1 and the handguard is the Cav C6.

As far as "looks", yeah, I think this is the most "balanced" look there is for ARs.
TMS951
03-13-13, 16:10
I built basically the same thing as my first AR (A1 mid 16") and loved it, then sold it to a friend as his first AR and he loves it.
jamesbern
03-13-13, 19:41
I like it. Looks like a great setup for a simplistic AR.
Mossyrock
11-10-13, 12:36
I keep coming back to this thread. Great simple, basic, balanced build. The only thing I am going to change when I build its twin is the addition of a light. I think I am at about a 95% solution on parts either on hand or ordered. These darned things are like potato chips...you can't have just one.
JusticeM4
11-10-13, 19:11
The only thing I would change with that is an adjustable stock and a flat top rail. Not everyone fits that M16 stock, and we would like the option of adding optics easily
Shoulderthinggoesup
11-12-13, 20:30
I love an a1 or a2 stock if i am not wearing armor and gotta agree about the flat top. Nice build!

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Kokopelli
11-12-13, 20:40
Nice! I like it that configuration. I have one with a Carbine tail as well..
Moonlight Again
11-17-13, 15:51
Honestly, I think the MOE handguard is very hard to beat. Love the feel of it over the stock handguards personally.

Absolutely! I am a noob and a nugget, but the MOE handguards a) let you mount a VFG and a light, b) are drop in, c) are cheap, d) feel good, and e) let you keep a standard FSP. Except for free floating the barrel, they seem to give you everything most rails give you, at less cost and expense. (I guess you can't mount the IR illuminator/laser on MOE handguards.)
masakari
11-22-13, 20:44
Very nice, KISS rifles here. I like the idea, and agree that the original M16 should have been more like these here.
Mossyrock
02-06-14, 10:31
Just finished my duplicate of the rifle in the original post. Ended up using a surplus M16A1 upper receiver that had been Ceracoated. Seems to work just fine, although I haven't had a chance to get it to the range yet. Kinda cold at the moment.
Colt guy
02-06-14, 20:36
Glad you got it done.

Now how about some pictures?