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Just started to epoxy my Glock grip.
It was cut down to take G19 Mags First
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130320_165233_zps4fefd20b.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130321_153949_zps1f22a9ba.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130321_154907_zpsfbec05a7.jpg
Gotta wait three more hours before taking the tape off.
Will up date at around 1930 my time.
ETA:
What paint can I use to make it match the glock black?
I'm thinking about chopping my G22. What epoxy did you use?
I have no idea about the paint; I thought that most individuals used a color-matched black epoxy to start with. Did you plan to paint the entire frame or just the epoxy?
Off topic:
I didn't know that the Gen4 Glocks with their replaceable backstraps could be cut down! I'm eager to see how it turns out.
I'm not questioning what you have done; this is simply not what I'm used to seeing, and I'm trying to learn something. Thanks.
polymorpheous
03-21-13, 19:32
I have no idea about the paint; I thought that most individuals used a color-matched black epoxy to start with. Did you plan to paint the entire frame or just the epoxy?
Off topic:
I didn't know that the Gen4 Glocks with their replaceable backstraps could be cut down! I'm eager to see how it turns out.
I'm not questioning what you have done; this is simply not what I'm used to seeing, and I'm trying to learn something. Thanks.
^^What he said.^^
What did you use to block off the top of the backstrap channel?
^^What he said.^^
What did you use to block off the top of the backstrap channel?
Play dou :)
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130321_192419_zpsc2e409ed.jpg
Please take pictures throughout the process, or at least when you are done shaping the epoxy!
polymorpheous
03-21-13, 22:56
Play dou :)
I think I can manage that!
4 or 5 years ago I was asked to fix a Glock 26 that had had a Comminoli safety installed.
At NAPA I found some automotive bumper repair epoxy that was black and formulated to be flexible once it cured.
I sanded to frame to get an anchor pattern and the epoxy stuck very well. The black matched perfectly and I pressed some sandpaper against the repaired area before it completely dried to match the texture of the frame and it came out great.
That stuff would probably work well for reductions too.
NeoNeanderthal
03-22-13, 08:30
very cool! Havent seen any grip work done to a gen 4. Eager to see how it turns out.
polymorpheous
03-22-13, 09:41
Does the epoxy bond to the Play-Doh when it cures?
Nope everything came out clean.
Starting to shape it
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130322_095540_zps4a944232.jpg
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COZ ZINZKI
03-22-13, 10:28
Mercury, flat black marine paint.... or aerosol truck bed liner ( a little gloppy texture). Guys at FN Forum use those, paints, to paint the much more common, FDE Scar ..mags.
jonconsiglio
03-22-13, 10:33
I couldn't find your reason anywhere unless I missed it. Why are you using the epoxy? Are you trying to extend it more or was there a void needing filled?
Jon
This thread may be helpful to you:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=64416&highlight=glock+grip+reduction
The post starter said he used krylon black. The process is described in the post. You should read it.
Thanks that does help. I did read through that thread but missed it. Was it spray paint or just paint?
Krylon spray paint. Camo black to be specific.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/IMG_20130322_161438_zpsa3a9b9a8.jpg
not a perfect match....
Mercury, flat black marine paint.... or aerosol truck bed liner ( a little gloppy texture). Guys at FN Forum use those, paints, to paint the much more common, FDE Scar ..mags.
I just saw this post. I will also try those.
ICANHITHIMMAN
03-22-13, 17:09
Not trying to nit pick but the initial lack of detail as to what is going on in this thread leaves me with a lot of questions about what the hell is going on.
This thread may be helpful to you:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=64416&highlight=glock+grip+reduction
The post starter said he used krylon black. The process is described in the post. You should read it.
That was my thread. I used Krylon Flat black originally, but it didn't hold up well. I have since used Rit Dye to stain the epoxy.
That was my thread. I used Krylon Flat black originally, but it didn't hold up well. I have since used Rit Dye to stain the epoxy.
Which color and did you use the loctite marine epoxy?
Which color and did you use the loctite marine epoxy?
Yes for the epoxy. Used Black Rit Dye. Have to do it a few times to get it to the dark enough shade.
Yes for the epoxy. Used Black Rit Dye. Have to do it a few times to get it to the dark enough shade.
Great! Thanks for the help! how is the epoxy holding up? Is it as durable as the polymer?
I find that dying the epoxy is ideal even if you paint it later. Eventually when the paint wears you will see the white color show through. If your going to paint it the dyed epoxy does not need to be exact. I tend to use a dye that is used for fiberglass resins that is used on surfboard repairs. The dyes come in several colors. You can mix colors like black and white to get various shades or different colors to create anything custom.
I find that dying the epoxy is ideal even if you paint it later. Eventually when the paint wears you will see the white color show through. If your going to paint it the dyed epoxy does not need to be exact. I tend to use a dye that is used for fiberglass resins that is used on surfboard repairs. The dyes come in several colors. You can mix colors like black and white to get various shades or different colors to create anything custom.
I tried he rit dye, it came out kinda purple lol. Can you provide a link to the dye you use?
Thanks:)
Dave Berryhill
03-23-13, 16:18
How about black tint for epoxy?
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/stock-work-finishing/stock-bedding-accessories/acraglas-dyes/acraglas-dye-prod41614.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/stock-work-finishing/stock-bedding-accessories/acraglas-dyes/acraglas-dyes-prod1046.aspx
"Traditional Brown, Jet Black, Camo Green and White "Toner" dyes actually mix with any epoxy to give even, true color throughout."
The other dyes are used for mixing with the epoxy before it is applied. For the OP, the epoxy has already been molded and set.
For Rit Dye, you'll need to do it a few times before it gets to a dark enough color. A trick that helped I did was adding some gold/yellow rit dye into the black to make it less purple. You could always use a sharpie to shade it in darker after dying it too.
Dave Berryhill
03-23-13, 19:23
The other dyes are used for mixing with the epoxy before it is applied.......
Yes! Plan ahead :D
How strong is the loctite marine epoxy? The expoxyed area extends to the tail and is exposed. Do I need to worry about it breaking?
What's done is done. You should be fine :D
In the future, Devcon DA290 is a black epoxy.
DIRTMAN556
03-24-13, 00:09
You guys are brave!
What's done is done. You should be fine :D
In the future, Devcon DA290 is a black epoxy.
I can always drill it out and do it again lol.
ICANHITHIMMAN
03-24-13, 07:56
Not trying to nit pick but the initial lack of detail as to what is going on in this thread leaves me with a lot of questions about what the hell is going on.
So can you answer my question? I cant be the only one who is not tracking the point of all this? G19 mags why? What glock is it now? A G17 maybe, and if so whats the advantage in what your doing? I guess the first time I asked it fell on deaf ears?
So can you answer my question? I cant be the only one who is not tracking the point of all this? G19 mags why? What glock is it now? A G17 maybe, and if so whats the advantage in what your doing? I guess the first time I asked it fell on deaf ears?
I can’t speak to the OP’s reasons – but I’m looking at cutting my Glock 17's down to use Glock 19 mags and I can tell you why I’m thinking about it:
1. Improved concealment – The shorter grip prints less.
2. Versatility - I have both G17 and G19 mags lying around. Now my G17’s can run either without issue.
3. Legal - Colorado has passed a mag capacity law limiting new mags to 15 rounds. I have plenty of G17 mags, but I will not be able to buy new ones after 7/1/13.
Why not simply replace my 17’s with more 19’s? My split times are faster with my 17’s than my 19’s. Not by much, but by some. My 17's are known quantities vs the unknown reliability/accuracy of a new gun. Add in transfer fee's, time, what have you, and that it is cheap to do, replacing the 17's might be more hassle than worth.
I can’t speak to the OP’s reasons – but I’m looking at cutting my Glock 17's down to use Glock 19 mags and I can tell you why I’m thinking about it:
1. Improved concealment – The shorter grip prints less.
2. Versatility - I have both G17 and G19 mags lying around. Now my G17’s can run either without issue.
3. Legal - Colorado has passed a mag capacity law limiting new mags to 15 rounds. I have plenty of G17 mags, but I will not be able to buy new ones after 7/1/13.
Why not simply replace my 17’s with more 19’s? My split times are faster with my 17’s than my 19’s. Not by much, but by some. My 17's are known quantities vs the unknown reliability/accuracy of a new gun. Add in transfer fee's, time, what have you, and that it is cheap to do, replacing the 17's might be more hassle than worth.
This, along with the ability to strip and insert 17 more easily.
One of the main reasons that I find people asking for this work to be done is for similar reasons that people like to bobtail 1911's for carry. It prints less. Barrel length while a factor to some is generally the lesser issue and more easily concealed vs the longer grip size that more easily prints. While 1911's get bobbed for printing reasons, with a Glock you can shorten the entire grip length pretty easily also. For some carry types, it is kinda the best of both worlds with a cut down 17 and can take 19 sized mags. Cutting down a 19/23 to 26/27 size isn't uncommon either.
I will also note that it is not uncommon for me to cut down the grip to match magazine sleeves. This gives a nice fit on the grip for the original magazines.
ICANHITHIMMAN
03-24-13, 14:30
Ok that clears it all up thanks
Ok that clears it all up thanks
Sort of...
The work is well done but i do not understand the OP's reasoning behind losing two rounds and NO grip size....Belay that, about an 1/8th of an inch versus almost an inch by cutting the grip entirely front to back.
While Glock magazines extend past the end of the frame, the mags almost never print, its the damned heel of the gun that does, at least for me.
Ryu, you dont have to explain yourself, its your gun, im just voicing an opinion.
How strong is the loctite marine epoxy? The expoxyed area extends to the tail and is exposed. Do I need to worry about it breaking?
I did 4 Glock 21's about 3 years ago using the marine epoxy method.
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/clastac/g21009.jpg
They will not be winning any best of show awards, and I am sure that Glcok has something to say about how badly I voided the warranty, but I have had 0 problems with the extended epoxied areas breaking or becoming loose. I have had the paint come off, but I kinda' expect that with use:
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/clastac/g21007.jpg
I just go get another can of ultra flat to fix that....
Sort of...
The work is well done but i do not understand the OP's reasoning behind losing two rounds and NO grip size....Belay that, about an 1/8th of an inch versus almost an inch by cutting the grip entirely front to back.
While Glock magazines extend past the end of the frame, the mags almost never print, its the damned heel of the gun that does, at least for me.
Ryu, you dont have to explain yourself, its your gun, im just voicing an opinion.
My duty 17 prints a lot more than my cut down 17. The difference is big. By keeping the rear I can still get full contact when shooting. With the 19 my palm goes off the rear back strap.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/raizo_sekai/b7d8333f-b2b7-44b5-afda-59a2681bd0ae_zps3f2eea1b.jpg
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