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ampfizo
03-21-08, 23:36
most of my shots are center but not on poa...
and some are low and to the left...

any tips or trick to solve this???

warpigM-4
03-22-08, 03:35
raise your front sight and adjust your windage to the right.or start all over and do a 25 meter combat zero

Gutshot John
03-22-08, 07:38
You would benefit more from instruction, where your technique can be seen and analyzed, than anything we can tell you here.

That being said are you right handed?

Assuming you are and that you're sights were factory installed...

Technically low shots indicate a trigger-whack when you anticipate the "BANG" and slap the trigger which causes the muzzle to drop and your shots to go low.

After you get some good training SAFE Dry fire helps to correct this.

Business_Casual
03-22-08, 08:11
If you are in the mid-Atlantic area, I recommend LAV:

http://www.vickerstactical.com/training/2008/Pistol1.htm

He can diagnose problems and give you the tools to improve. Someone here said "shooting a pistol is simple, it just isn't very easy."

M_P

f.2
03-22-08, 08:16
Bruce Gray articles (http://nm-ccw.com/bgray/)

Jay Cunningham
03-22-08, 08:19
most of my shots are center but not on poa...
and some are low and to the left...

any tips or trick to solve this???

It is extremely difficult to analyze fundamental shooting deficiencies in person, much less online. Find a good pistol instructor and have them diagnose you. It can work miracles.

ToddG
03-22-08, 09:44
I second what Thekatar said. While there are charts and graphs and books telling you how to diagnose a problem based on where your shots land, those things are only right part of the time.

The typical explanation for a right-handed shooter hitting low left is trigger jerk. But it can also be a combination of anticipation (making the shots go low), sideways motion on the trigger (making the shots go left), overtravel of the trigger (which makes trigger jerk much more pronounced), or various other factors.

Another radical possibility most people forget: your sights could be off. I was at the range a few weeks back and another instructor was giving a private lesson. His student was consistently shooting low-left and the instructor was getting very frustrated, unable to fix the problem. So he asked me to help the student. First thing I did was shoot a 5-shot group out of the student's gun at 7yd. Guess what? The sights were off ... I was shooting about 2" low and left, too.

You can test your trigger manipulation with the Wall Drill (http://pistol-training.com/archives/118), a very well established dry-fire drill. If you can shoot the Wall Drill without upsetting your sight alignment, you're a big step towards success. When you take it to the range and try live-fire, be mindful not to let the blast and recoil upset your trigger manipulation. You can do this by incorporating some dry-fire reps into your live-fire routine, or by using any of the various Ball & Dummy drills (the "Dummy & Ball" variant that Larry Vickers uses is by far the best I've seen if you have either a shooting partner or enough snap caps on hand).

edited to add: If you're a new handgun shooter, the very best thing you can do is visit the NRA Instructor Locator (http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/find.asp). Not every person listed there is going to be a world-renowned expert, but every person will have been professionally trained as an instructor, been tested & certified by the NRA, and will teach a comprehensive peer-reviewed lesson plan developed by the NRA. NRA First Steps or NRA Basic Pistol should be the first stop for any potential handgun owner.

ampfizo
03-22-08, 12:33
thanks for the reply guys...

yes im right handed...the range officer did quote me on my trigger and shot anticipation and that he notice that i have the tendency to drop the muzzle at times (which i notice myself), but according to him my posture and shooting postion is correct, but still he recommended i sign up for his pistol class...

just wanted you guys input 1st, before i drop some funds on shooting lessons.

thanks again...

warpigM-4
03-22-08, 14:05
raise your front sight and adjust your windage to the right.or start all over and do a 25 meter combat zero
oopppsssss i was thinking you were talking about a AR.I agree with the other post get a trainer .sorry for the mix up

Freakdaddy
03-22-08, 22:25
This might help some.

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm

Cold Zero
03-22-08, 22:34
Kind of hard to tell online with out seeing you shoot to tell if you have a trigger snatch , or a pre ignition push, both, or something else. That being said.

Try lots of dry fire practice at home, after double checking for empty weapon.

Try lots of bullseye shooting for small groups. As you get better, move back.

Use of dummy rounds during training randomly placed in your mags.

Front sight, trigger press, follow thru, scan.

Good Luck.