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WillBrink
04-05-13, 07:45
The sky is not falling (yet)

There's been more pro gun laws passed on the state level then anti recently from what I am reading, the divide seems to me mostly with states already anti gun vs those who are not. If anything, there seems to be a backlash from various states to Obama et al anti gun nonsense by passing pro 2A measures although the anti laws passed are more sweeping than the pro.

We all agree, vigilance to tyranny is essential to our freedoms and liberties, but on the state level, it appears those who understand armed citizens in "gun free zones" is a plus to preventing future events that continue to attract evil to places no one is armed.

Personally, I expect the data in a year or two to be very interesting and expect it to show what prior data has: those states that pass anti gun measures will see either no impact on crime, or an increase, and those who passed the pro gun measures will see no impact on crime, or a decrease.

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Since the Sandy Hook school massacre, five states have passed laws that strengthen gun restrictions, while 10 states have passed laws that weaken them.

States have passed more laws since the Newtown, Conn., school massacre that weaken gun restrictions than laws strengthening them, according to a tally by an anti-gun-violence group. But the group says a simple bill count doesn't tell the whole story.

As President Barack Obama continues to publicly exhort Congress and states to pass stricter gun-control legislation, gun-rights advocates have been pushing their own legislative agendas and have had successes.

Since the Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 20 children and six adults dead, five states have passed seven laws that strengthen gun restrictions, while 10 states have passed 17 laws that weaken them, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing data compiled by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a San Francisco-based group that backs stricter gun laws.

Those touting stricter firearms regulations have scored high-profile victories this year in a handful of states — most notably in New York, Colorado and Connecticut. Connecticut's measure, signed into law Thursday by Gov. Dannel Malloy, imposes sweeping new restrictions on weapons and large-capacity ammunition magazines similar to the ones used by Adam Lanza, the Newtown gunman.

But gun-rights advocates have made inroads as well, though the law center says the measures have not been as sweeping. Among the examples cited by the Journal:

In Tennessee, employees with handgun permits can now carry their guns anywhere in their cars, including to work, provided they keep them locked up in their vehicles.

Arkansas passed laws allowing firearms in churches and on college campuses.

A new South Dakota law allows school boards to arm teachers and volunteers.

Kentucky shortened the process for obtaining a license to carry a concealed firearm.

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http://news.msn.com/us/after-newtown-shootings-pro-gun-measures-also-gain-ground

LowSpeed_HighDrag
04-05-13, 07:54
Thats great, but it certainly doesnt feel like it for thouse of now behind enemy lines. Like the article says, we may be passing more laws in our favor, but their laws far outweigh the scope of ours.

WillBrink
04-05-13, 08:04
Thats great, but it certainly doesnt feel like it for thouse of now behind enemy lines.
Like the article says, we may be passing more laws in our favor, but their laws far outweigh the scope of ours.

True enough, and it's just a continued polarization between different cultures in different US states, and I think will prove a very telling result which even the anti gun types will have difficulty ignoring once the data is in from those changes.

However, there appears to be some good news among all this and that's being ignored by both the media and those telling us the sky is falling. They might be doing it for different reasons, but the result is the same, and they are unknowingly (or at least unintentionally) helping each other to make us feel like nothing positive has taken place for 2A Rights recently, which does not appear to be correct.

WillBrink
04-05-13, 08:05
Thats great, but it certainly doesnt feel like it for thouse of now behind enemy lines. Like the article says, we may be passing more laws in our favor, but their laws far outweigh the scope of ours.

BTW, just responded to the above and got a "moderator will have to approve your post" prompt. What gives gents?

PA PATRIOT
04-05-13, 08:31
BTW, just responded to the above and got a "moderator will have to approve your post" prompt. What gives gents?

Its a bug that happens once in a while here, but its nothing to worry about.

WillBrink
04-05-13, 08:47
Its a bug that happens once in a while here, but its nothing to worry about.

Thanx. I was puzzled by that one.

djegators
04-05-13, 09:32
There is positive news out there, and it is important to note it, but for many others, the SHTF big time.

SOWT
04-05-13, 17:18
Just remember who sold you out in 2014.

I think (hope) Republican House Candidates will run on a pro-2A platform next year and send a bunch of democrats packing.

Waylander
04-06-13, 07:33
Alabama just approved a bill in the Senate similar to the Tennessee bill to carry locked in your glove box without a permit. Also a shall issue CCW bill where we've previously been a may issue state. Both bills are expected to pass the House AFAIK.