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Armati
04-18-13, 13:36
It is not in the MSM, nor Faux (which is mostly Saudi owned), but when I put "Saudi minister" and "Saudi deport" into Google News I get a bunch of stories about how the Saudi "person of interest" in Boston will now be deported? For what?

The action from came just after the Saudi MOI had an unscheduled meeting with Obama.

The other day you will also notice the Boston police were ready to have a press conference identifying the suspect, then we were told the FBI would hold the press conference, then there was a series of delays, then no press conference on the suspect.

Is it just me or does it look like the Obama Administration, the MSM, and the LE agencies involved are now covering up the Saudi involvement in this attack?

kmrtnsn
04-18-13, 13:41
It is all bullshit.

Failure2Stop
04-18-13, 13:46
It is not in the MSM, nor Faux (which is mostly Saudi owned), but when I put "Saudi minister" and "Saudi deport" into Google News I get a bunch of stories about how the Saudi "person of interest" in Boston will now be deported? For what?

The action from came just after the Saudi MOI had an unscheduled meeting with Obama.

The other day you will also notice the Boston police were ready to have a press conference identifying the suspect, then we were told the FBI would hold the press conference, then there was a series of delays, then no press conference on the suspect.

Is it just me or does it look like the Obama Administration, the MSM, and the LE agencies involved are now covering up the Saudi involvement in this attack?

That would be very interesting if the facts support it.
Saudi involvement with terrorism is nothing new or unique.

streck
04-18-13, 13:51
This is an Alex Jones InfoWars assertion....I'll wait for confirming sources....LINK (http://www.infowars.com/obama-covering-up-saudi-link-to-boston-bombing/)

He is also trying to claim that the CST personnel are really CRAFT employees....LOL....LINK (http://www.storyleak.com/craft-international-private-military-forces-boston-marathon/)

obucina
04-18-13, 13:55
http://news.yahoo.com/report-saudi-national-ruled-suspect-boston-marathon-bombings-050427325.html


so, its from the Blaze. A dude on Hannity also mentioned it last night. I think a Freedom of Information Act request should be filed. ;)

platoonDaddy
04-18-13, 14:34
so, its from the Blaze. A dude on Hannity also mentioned it last night. I think a Freedom of Information Act request should be filed. ;)


Hannity on his radio show, within the last 15 minutes stated that the deportation is on hold. He claims, that LEO's who are pissed off about this, leak the info to Hannity about the deportation.

ralph
04-18-13, 15:55
So is this person a Saudi National with some sort of immunity, say like a part of the embassy staff?

kmrtnsn
04-18-13, 16:45
Again. It is all horseshit. Deportation is a proceeding, an administrative process. It is not a pick a guy up, and take him to the airport and throw him on a plane kind of thing. Deportation for Security and Related Grounds takes headquarters approval and that process takes months.

T2C
04-19-13, 08:23
Again. It is all horseshit. Deportation is a proceeding, an administrative process. It is not a pick a guy up, and take him to the airport and throw him on a plane kind of thing. Deportation for Security and Related Grounds takes headquarters approval and that process takes months.

This is an accurate assessment of how the system works.

The process should take days, not months.

Watrdawg
04-19-13, 09:52
Heard the same about the deportation last night on local radio station. Deportation was put on hold supposedly after Obama, met with Saudi Minister I believe yesterday. Deportation was for supposed national security reasons. We'll see if it is true or not.

newyork
04-19-13, 09:58
Glenn Beck has a big story. He says he gave it to the MSM and if they don't report the truth he will on Monday. He says its shocking.

Moose-Knuckle
04-19-13, 16:51
Glenn Beck has a big story. He says he gave it to the MSM and if they don't report the truth he will on Monday. He says its shocking.

As I stated in the other thread:

I'm sure this has nothing to do what so ever with Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal flying in this week and meeting behind closed doors with National Security Advisor Tom Donilon . . .

Magic_Salad0892
04-23-13, 05:32
Did Beck deliver?

Whiskey_Bravo
04-23-13, 06:53
Did Beck deliver?

Was wondering that as well.

davidjinks
04-23-13, 07:58
I don't put much stock into Beck much anymore, however, he did come out with some good information.

IF WHAT HE PUT OUT IS IN FACT TRUE...then I'd say it was some good info. Basically the Saudi that was originally caught/detained was a known not good guy. He is linked to AQ, has family members in Gitmo linked to AQ, Saudi gov stated he has family members in Saudi linked to AQ, the guy was supposed to be in Ohio going to college but he lives in Boston...some interesting stuff for sure. This has apparently been corraberated by several congressman who are starting an investigation currently. Also this Saudi guy was also given the label of 212-3B which is supposed to annotate being a very bad dude.

Of course I'm sure there's going to be some members on this board who will immediately come out in defense of the government and call bullshit on all of this. I guess it is what it is.



Did Beck deliver?

montanadave
04-23-13, 08:01
Did Beck deliver?

Briefly discussed yesterday: (http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=129256&page=40), starting at post #794.

Short version: Saudi national on student visa not living at the address on his original application, allegations the Saudi government pulled strings, and some vague insinuation that the Saudi national in question was involved in the Boston bombing ... apparently without any supporting evidence (at least I have not read or heard any).

Has all the earmarks of just another sensationalist "teaser" to pump up ratings.

Beck fans are free to disagree.

davidjinks
04-23-13, 08:15
I'll agree with the sensationalism. Pretty common nowadays with him. I actually liked him better when he was hittin the sauce. He at least didn't give a shit back then and just blurted any and all out.



Briefly discussed yesterday: (http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=129256&page=40), starting at post #794.

Short version: Saudi national on student visa not living at the address on his original application, allegations the Saudi government pulled strings, and some vague insinuation that the Saudi national in question was involved in the Boston bombing ... apparently without any supporting evidence (at least I have not read or heard any).

Has all the earmarks of just another sensationalist "teaser" to pump up ratings.

Beck fans are free to disagree.

montanadave
04-23-13, 08:21
I'll agree with the sensationalism. Pretty common nowadays with him. I actually liked him better when he was hittin the sauce. He at least didn't give a shit back then and just blurted any and all out.

And I'll concede this Saudi national may, indeed, be a guy who had no business being here in the first place ... but I have seen no evidence tying him to the Boston marathon bombing.

newyork
04-23-13, 08:25
True. Beck is wondering about the Saudis room mates and their credentials. He is saying he has too many top sources and this is no conspiracy.
If it isn't, I would love for it to come out in full and not piece meal it. The way he is handling doesn't look good for his credibility

davidjinks
04-23-13, 08:30
Agreed...caveat is if Beck somehow discloses his sources (Never happen I know) and they do turn out to be "High Level" gov officials.....



And I'll concede this Saudi national may, indeed, be a guy who had no business being here in the first place ... but I have seen no evidence tying him to the Boston marathon bombing.

J-Dub
04-23-13, 08:31
This Saudi fellow was just another patsy. They just decided to go with they Chechen patsys instead of the Saudi or right winger...

newyork
04-23-13, 08:33
Basically he isn't even just blaming Obama. He is overall blaming govt for "playing footsies" with the Saudis while the Saudis fund and support terrorists the world over and that keep terrorizing the US.

davidjinks
04-23-13, 08:53
I'm sure there is sarcasm in this post...but my meter is off today.

It has been known for a very long time that Saudi Arabia is a huge financier of certain terror groups in the world. I don't mean the country as a whole, I mean certain select groups within that country.

One thing that a lot of people don't know is that we have been fighting Chechens in Afghanistan since late '02 and in Iraq since pretty much the beginning.



This Saudi fellow was just another patsy. They just decided to go with they Chechen patsys instead of the Saudi or right winger...

tb-av
04-23-13, 08:57
Links to Beck's videos... he reviews time line of Saudi...

http://news.yahoo.com/more-saudi-arabia-connection-boston-bombings-meets-eye-022628015.html

J-Dub
04-23-13, 09:03
I'm sure there is sarcasm in this post...but my meter is off today.

It has been known for a very long time that Saudi Arabia is a huge financier of certain terror groups in the world. I don't mean the country as a whole, I mean certain select groups within that country.

One thing that a lot of people don't know is that we have been fighting Chechens in Afghanistan since late '02 and in Iraq since pretty much the beginning.

So what you're saying is we've been funding the Chechens just like we're doing now with the AQ fighters in Syria? We've been funding the chechen's since they were fighting the Russians. Same as Al Qaeda. Its all a dog and pony show.

Ya news flash, we fund our enemies....I believe we're over 100 million to the "rebels" (aka AQ fighters) in Syria.

davidjinks
04-23-13, 09:06
You'll hear no disagreement from me with what you've posted. I am in complete agreement with you.



So what you're saying is we've been funding the Chechens just like we're doing now with the AQ fighters in Syria? We've been funding the chechen's since they were fighting the Russians. Same as Al Qaeda. Its all a dog and pony show.

Ya news flash, we fund our enemies....

newyork
04-23-13, 09:15
I do have to say, Beck has a point. If they did open a file, label him a 212-3B which takes hours in front of a panel of judges, a search warrant, interviews for 9 hours, how can this guy only be a victim of a bombing. Something is up. If, Beck is being truthful.

tb-av
04-24-13, 10:48
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2013-04-24-at-10.24.50-AM.png

Full story here.... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/armed-and-dangerous-becks-latest-revelations-on-saudi-national-once-considered-person-of-interest-in-boston-bombings/


Janet Napolitano lying about it here.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/23/janet-napolitanos-major-admission-saudi-student-was-put-on-watch-list/

Mauser KAR98K
04-24-13, 11:10
Beck seems to be going after the lies and possible cover up with this Saudi, which is putting more creditability on his side. Also note he is getting information from congressional members (names he has not divulged yet, which I wish he would and those member come forward).

This needs to get exposed and placed on top priority fast or it will go down like Fast & Furious, Benghazi, and Solindra. This is shaping up to worse than all three of those.

brickboy240
04-24-13, 11:16
People love to poo poo Glenn Beck but without him, would we even know a damn thing about Van Jones or ACORN? I doubt it.

Beck seems to be on to something. It is VERY obvious that Napolitano lied about the guy.

The other media outlets are (surprise) dead silent.

Anybody going to prove Beck wrong? I'd like to see it if Beck is wrong.

-brickboy240

VooDoo6Actual
04-24-13, 11:19
It is VERY obvious that Napolitano lied about the guy.

-brickboy240

Are you suggesting or asserting that people in our Government or elected officials lie ?

Wow, that blows my mind Dawg.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/601713_10151482952479865_604157407_n_zps58b8adc9.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/teehee321/media/601713_10151482952479865_604157407_n_zps58b8adc9.jpg.html)

platoonDaddy
04-24-13, 13:54
If true, HOLY SHIT

Saudi newspaper: Michelle Obama visited Boston bombing 'person of interest'

http://www.examiner.com/article/saudi-newspaper-michelle-obama-visited-boston-bombing-person-of-interest


Edit: Forgot to add - Saudi National Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi who was originally deemed a person of interest after the Boston Bombing was a frequent visitor to the White House too! Maybe that’s why Michelle Obama paid Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi a special hospital visit to him and not the other victims of the Boston terrorist attack. Gateway Pundit has posted screenshots showing vistor logs of Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi visits to the White House.

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/

ryr8828
04-24-13, 14:06
Would saying fat assed USA hating c*nt get me banned?

I hope not.

brickboy240
04-24-13, 15:04
Several Saudis flew planes into our buildings and we did nothing to Saudi Arabia afterwards.

...surprised that they are racing this guy out of America?

...why? We've done this before.

-brickboy240

skydivr
04-24-13, 15:34
Who is this guy and why is the First Lady going to visit him?

Speculating: He's a Saudi Royal under an assumed name going to school here without diplomatic immunity. While he may or may not have anything to do with the bombing, he's been called home pronto.

Trajan
04-24-13, 15:44
I attended an academic conference/presentation with Peter Bergen a few years back. Dude seemed like a douche. Thought that the WOT was over once we capped Osama.

jpmuscle
04-24-13, 15:44
Who is this guy and why is the First Lady going to visit him?

Speculating: He's a Saudi Royal under an assumed name going to school here without diplomatic immunity. While he may or may not have anything to do with the bombing, he's been called home pronto.

or maybe he's the Boston bombers handlers.. who knows.

Can't help but look at this whole thing and think the rabbit holes goes deeper than anyone would have first guessed.

tb-av
04-24-13, 16:52
He's somebody that's for damn sure......

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/376065_590912964261356_1824188110_n-413x620.jpg



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/are-these-pictures-of-michelle-obama-visiting-the-saudi-student-put-on-a-watchlist-last-week/

VooDoo6Actual
04-24-13, 17:23
or maybe he's the Boston bombers handlers.. who knows.

Can't help but look at this whole thing and think the rabbit holes goes deeper than anyone would have first guessed.

Oh it most certainly does but this is not the venue to discuss who his DNA purportedly belongs to.

jpmuscle
04-24-13, 17:27
Oh it most certainly does but this is not the venue to discuss who his DNA purportedly is.


??? How is this kids parental lineage relevant? Or did I miss something.

Moose-Knuckle
04-24-13, 17:50
Saudi National Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi who was originally deemed a person of interest after the Boston Bombing was a frequent visitor to the White House too!

You ought to peruse the WH visitor lists over the last five years. ;)

J-Dub
04-24-13, 20:10
You ought to peruse the WH visitor lists over the last five years. ;)

Ya Im sure you'd find a few more that's on the "terror watch list" aka the Federal Government Payroll lol

VooDoo6Actual
04-24-13, 22:04
Interesting coincidence ? Yea, probably nothing I know silly me. MO's visit. BHO's unscheduled visit, JK's visit. Silly me.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/1366858825_zpsf5590d7c.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/teehee321/media/1366858825_zpsf5590d7c.jpg.html)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/1366858812_zpscf38b650.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/teehee321/media/1366858812_zpscf38b650.jpg.html)

Mjolnir
04-24-13, 22:07
You ought to peruse the WH visitor lists over the last five years. ;)

How about of the last four presidents...

Iraqgunz
04-24-13, 22:41
If we are going to have stupid fact finding committees and the like then I want to know the story here. It's been my experience that if you smell shit it's because there is a turd laying around somewhere.

The bullshit from Janet Dipshitano and others isn't cutting it.

Belmont31R
04-24-13, 22:56
If we are going to have stupid fact finding committees and the like then I want to know the story here. It's been my experience that if you smell shit it's because there is a turd laying around somewhere.

The bullshit from Janet Dipshitano and others isn't cutting it.



What difference does it make?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3XTOjZPfg

jpmuscle
04-24-13, 23:11
Quick aside but I'm pretty sure ABDULRAHMAN was the name of the bomber missing fingers in the Kingdom.


Interesting coincidence ? Yea, probably nothing I know silly me. MO's visit. BHO's unscheduled visit, JK's visit. Silly me.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/1366858825_zpsf5590d7c.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/teehee321/media/1366858825_zpsf5590d7c.jpg.html)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/1366858812_zpscf38b650.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/teehee321/media/1366858812_zpscf38b650.jpg.html)

Iraqgunz
04-24-13, 23:55
Because at some point this bullshit has to stop. One day I fear we are going to wake up and turn on the TV and we are not going to like what we hear next.


What difference does it make?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3XTOjZPfg

Mauser KAR98K
04-25-13, 00:08
Because at some point this bullshit has to stop. One day I fear we are going to wake up and turn on the TV and we are not going to like what we hear next.

Man, I'm not liking what I am hearing now.

Armati
04-25-13, 07:09
Because at some point this bullshit has to stop. One day I fear we are going to wake up and turn on the TV and we are not going to like what we hear next.

The sooner you accept the fact that the USA is doomed the happier your life will be. Accept this impending collapse and prepare accordingly. To wit, I give you:

THE U.S. IS TERMINAL
By Kurt Saxon

Our species has become a plague on the land. Worldwide, we have out-bred the carrying capacities of our environments and our socioeconomic systems. Our country is swamped with morons and degenerates. The Mexican border has become a huge anus through which Mexico excretes its waste matter. There are at least eight million Muslims here, all too many of which, feel commanded to destroy us.

Around 1850 our species reached one billion. By 1930 it doubled to two billion and by 1975, four billion. Today it is six and a half billion and climbing.

U.S. population was just under 100 million in1900. Today it is 300 million, 100 million non-white.

The insane middle-east war against Islam is further ruining our economy.

Overpopulation and down-breeding has reduced the level of reasoning of the average human to that of a baboon. A terrible culling is due, or overdue, of more than 50% of our population who will die of starvation, disease and/or violence.

I will illustrate: A man feels poorly and goes to his doctor. The doctor tells him he has a spreading cancer and is overweight and getting fatter. He asks the doctor, "Can't you cut out the cancer and help me lose weight?" The doctor answers, "Of course not. Your cancer cells and your fat cells have as much right to live as do your normal cells."

You would consider that doctor to be insane. But isn't that the same attitude as our politicians, and, unfortunately, most of our politically correct fellow citizens express? People who were born to no purpose and are a social liability, at best, will be culled as a matter course. Those who accept them as simply a part of the scheme of things, will be a part of an indiscriminate culling which will carry off both worthwhile and worthless.

Our elected officials are corrupt and incompetent. No improvement is possible, short of the massive culling. The culling will remove the parasites, predators, perverts and also the Liberals, who not only allowed, but encouraged society's dregs to survive and multiply.

Your only hope lies in the knowledge of our past, in preparing to save yourself and your loved ones. Only the self-sufficiency of our ancestors will help you to create a life-support system and also enable you to defend your own against all comers.

No.6
04-25-13, 07:22
Because at some point this bullshit has to stop. One day I fear we are going to wake up and turn on the TV and we are not going to like what we hear next.

Some of us are awake, but we're being told it's "just a dream, go back to sleep".

Litpipe
04-25-13, 08:55
Interesting blog from a guy that is part of the Muslim Brotherhood. He seems to think we are all a bunch of fools for thinking the Saudis are our friends (duh). He also has some links posted showing people with the same last name are on watch lists and may be in Gitmo.

http://shoebat.com/2013/04/17/innocent-saudi-has-ties-to-several-al-qaeda-terrorists/

brickboy240
04-25-13, 11:04
So is Glenn Beck crazy?

Looks like he IS on to something.

Many happenings just do not pass the smell test.

But big media is largely ignoring this story.

-brickboy240

Belmont31R
04-25-13, 12:41
Interesting blog from a guy that is part of the Muslim Brotherhood. He seems to think we are all a bunch of fools for thinking the Saudis are our friends (duh). He also has some links posted showing people with the same last name are on watch lists and may be in Gitmo.

http://shoebat.com/2013/04/17/innocent-saudi-has-ties-to-several-al-qaeda-terrorists/



The Saudi's bankroll a huge amount of the radical madrassas and groups around the world. Fund a lot of mosques and other radicalization centers. 9/11 attackers were all mostly Saudis. They helped the Taliban take over Afghanistan.

No...they are not our friends.

Iraqgunz
04-25-13, 15:05
What I mean is we are going to wake up and discover that a nuke has gone off in the U.S or something as equally devastating. Meanwhile we condition people to sit back, relax, have a beer and watch everything unfold from the comfort of their police protected living room.

When the **** are people going to wake up and realize that the gov't (any gov't) short of removing all of your rights and enacting a fascist state cannot protect the population. We have to do to it.

I have stated before and I'll say it again. If these terrorists were in fact wanting to make terror rather than just headline grabbing stuff they would organize cells in the U.S and then take over a school just like in Beslan or several schools at once and they will inflict so much psychological trauma, not to mention chaos that we will see our rights taken away even more and possibly cause a major economic issue just like the fake Twitter hacking the other day.


Man, I'm not liking what I am hearing now.

Ironman8
04-25-13, 15:26
I have stated before and I'll say it again. If these terrorists were in fact wanting to make terror rather than just headline grabbing stuff they would organize cells in the U.S and then take over a school just like in Beslan or several schools at once and they will inflict so much psychological trauma, not to mention chaos that we will see our rights taken away even more and possibly cause a major economic issue just like the fake Twitter hacking the other day.

What makes you think this isn't their plan. After a 19 yr old locked down an entire city, you don't think they're taking notes? I'll go out on a limb and predict that before we see 2014, there will be another major attack. Maybe 9/11 or worse, scale-wise. Things are just steamrolling too fast right now...

brickboy240
04-25-13, 16:30
You bet they are taking notes.

They are also thrilled beyond belief that even after another hit in America...we will not even call the problem by it's name for fear of offending people.

The problem is Muslims.

They WILL be back to try this and other types of attacks on us...because we are too scared to admit WHAT the problem is or do a damn thing about it. We just slap a "coexist" decal on the back of our cars and go back to Starbucks for another soy latte and say we love everyone.

The enemy is laughing and making plans...as we speak.

-brickboy240

Doc Safari
04-25-13, 17:04
I don't remember if it was Beck or somewhere else, but I heard right after the bombing that something like 15,000 people from radical Muslim states are unaccounted for in the US.

tb-av
04-25-13, 17:18
Yes, they are here on Visa and not in the places they are supposed to be.

brickboy240
04-25-13, 17:24
They are saying the "Saudi person of interest" is Bin Laden's son.

...if this is true...it is stranger than we thought.

Don't go looking for that on CNN or CBS...I doubt you will find it. Does not mean it is not true, though.

-brickboy240

jpmuscle
04-25-13, 17:29
So is Glenn Beck crazy?

Looks like he IS on to something.

Many happenings just do not pass the smell test.

But big media is largely ignoring this story.

-brickboy240

Funny thing about Beck is that he is far more often right than he is wrong.

jpmuscle
04-25-13, 17:34
They are saying the "Saudi person of interest" is Bin Laden's son.

...if this is true...it is stranger than we thought.

Don't go looking for that on CNN or CBS...I doubt you will find it. Does not mean it is not true, though.

-brickboy240
Link? Cuz that would be really really really bad...if it were to pan out.

tb-av
04-25-13, 17:48
Glenn Beck specifically warned everyone on Monday to be very cautious as to what they read on other sites because there was going to be a lot of tin foil associated.



Alex Jones of InfoWars has already added to the Glenn Beck conspiracy theory by alleging that “Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi is [claimed to be] free and clear of terrorist ties, when in fact over 10 names from his clan are already linked to Al-Qaeda.” They printed out a list of Al-Harbi clan members who are known to be active fighters in al Qaeda, although potentially distant family ties do not constitute proof of terrorism.

http://www.inquisitr.com/633738/glenn-beck-conspiracy-abdul-rahman-ali-alharbi-is-osama-bin-ladens-son-hamza/