View Full Version : Just got an M92 Zastava Pistol...What Stock for SBR?
Not sure what stock to use for my Zastava> Have some time to think since the form 1 is out.
Any suggestions?
What do you mean by "the form 1 is out"? Where exactly is the serial number on your pistol?
KalashniKEV
04-30-13, 07:55
What do you mean by "the form 1 is out"? Where exactly is the serial number on your pistol?
I assume he means... he sent out the Form 1. :confused:
The best one that I've seen a guy welded a Galil Folder on:
http://i.imgur.com/grq0N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o1jeb.jpg
HalliganJoel
05-18-13, 23:31
I've seen conflicting reports but it seems that due to the location of the importers info/serial number it's impossible to do a traditional folding stock.
That being said, I'm a fan of triangle side folders.
Breacher 217
05-19-13, 06:19
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_98/149827_PAP_m92_sidefolder_conversion___Finished_.html
7.62WildBill
05-19-13, 07:30
I am thinking about putting an ACE folder with an AR tube and Magpul CTR on mine. But I saw this sweet Russian-style triangle on another forum. He replaced the rear trunnion, and just left out the bottom pin on the left side (to not interfere with the serial #). Pretty Sweet!
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s488/wildwoodbill000/m92sbrtriangle_zpsc32ddefe.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/wildwoodbill000/media/m92sbrtriangle_zpsc32ddefe.jpg.html)
Edit: this is the same gun that Breacher gave a link to, but I saw it on a different forum!
Correct stock would be an underfolder, with the Russian/Bulgarian triangle folder being another option as mentioned above.
If your going to really shoot it, the galil or beryl stock will serve you much better.
Correct stock would be an underfolder
Serial number placement makes this problematic.
Serial number placement makes this problematic.
Roger that, I enlarged but still couldn't tell.... If changing rear trunnion is a nogo, Ace adapters and galil/beryl weld ups are still great options. He's gonna need something to help direct the flame.;)
If its a 7.62 hands down a side folder. Your cheek and jaw bone will appreciate it if shooting over 20 rounds. I've got a Yugo M92 Krink that beats me up but it is compact and accurate enough to hang to. A friend has a Bulgy Krink with a side folder that is a dream to shoot due to cheek weld and recoil.
7.62WildBill
05-19-13, 16:27
This is a draco, but it is basically the stock set-up I plan on using. I am going to use a US Palm grip with an Ultimak and a Ronin hand guard up front. Not my pic.
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s488/wildwoodbill000/dracoARfolder_zps19dfcf9e.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/wildwoodbill000/media/dracoARfolder_zps19dfcf9e.jpg.html)
I've seen conflicting reports but it seems that due to the location of the importers info/serial number it's impossible to do a traditional folding stock.
Depends. They're located either on the back left, or on the front left, depending on when it was imported.
If it's on the back, a triangle folder should be doable. If it's on the front left, then an underfolder should be doable.
This is a draco, but it is basically the stock set-up I plan on using.
Keep in mind that the angle of the receiver rear is different for the M92 versus a regular AKM.
7.62WildBill
05-19-13, 19:43
Keep in mind that the angle of the receiver rear is different for the M92 versus a regular AKM.
Copy that, will be using a thin wedge between the rear trunnion and folding mechanism.
Easy question.
ACE AKFX Stock and a Stormwerkz Stock Folding Mechanism
You'll need a stock adapter, too.
I have that setup on my VZ-58's. Love it. It's the only way to go.
ACE AKFX Stock and a Stormwerkz Stock Folding Mechanism
You'll need a stock adapter, too.
Why not just use the Ace AKFX-FS? Does it not have everything you need?
http://riflestocks.com/store/product2.html
KalashniKEV
05-22-13, 09:07
Does it not have everything you need?
Nope.
Nope.
It looks to me like it does based on what's written on the website, but I'm obviously missing something. Can you please elaborate?
Doc. Holiday
05-22-13, 13:11
This is a draco, but it is basically the stock set-up I plan on using. I am going to use a US Palm grip with an Ultimak and a Ronin hand guard up front. Not my pic.
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s488/wildwoodbill000/dracoARfolder_zps19dfcf9e.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/wildwoodbill000/media/dracoARfolder_zps19dfcf9e.jpg.html)
That's probably one of the coolest Draco's I've ever seen!
KalashniKEV
05-22-13, 14:19
It looks to me like it does based on what's written on the website, but I'm obviously missing something. Can you please elaborate?
The link you posted is for an ACE stock that requires a receiver block. It does not have everything you need.
There is not an ACE Receiver block made to support the M92 pistols.
http://riflestocks.com/store/page7.html
US Machinegun makes a clean Draco mount, but it is not compatible with the M92:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/dscf0165c.jpg/
The Zastava M92 PAP has a slight angle to the rear trunnion, unlike a Draco:
http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/Zastava-HG3089-N-787450220720-1.jpg
US Machinegun also does make an M92 compatible mount, but it's a little goofy, IMO.
http://www.usmachinegun.com/products.php?cat=72
Your responses to this thread are... odd.
Breacher 217
05-22-13, 14:23
How would machining the angle into a castle nut and the welding it to the rear of the M92 work?
KalashniKEV
05-22-13, 14:59
How would machining the angle into a castle nut and the welding it to the rear of the M92 work?
Probably not good at all, since a receiver extension is threaded onto the receiver, not the ~1/4" long castle nut.
You could probably go that route with one of these though:
http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/etac-akar15-telescopic-stock-adapter-weldon-p-777.html
Your responses to this thread are... odd.
I asked the OP what he meant by "the form 1 is out" because it could have had two meanings.
1) If could mean that he filled everything out and sent it in.
2) It could mean that Form 1's are on backorder from the ATF which is not uncommon. I'm guessing that you did not consider this option.
If he answered (1), I was going to ask why he specified an overall length on the Form 1 when he didn't yet even know what buttstock he was using. I personally wouldn't assume that plus or minus two or three inches is close enough.
If he answered (2), I was going to provide a link to where he could download the Form 1 himself.
As to how the Ace type folders work, I simply didn't understand all the parts involved. Your initial response of "nope" when I asked if the Ace AKFX has everything that I needed was not helpful at all. Your followup when I asked for an elaboration was.
I see nothing odd at all.
I see my Pap m92 sbr getting some attention in this thread. It deserves it ;) it turned out well.
http://i44.tinypic.com/11m3og7.jpg
HalliganJoel
05-27-13, 22:25
[QUOTE=ARin;1655667]I see my Pap m92 sbr getting some attention in this thread. It deserves it ;) it turned out well.
Looks totally awesome! Who did the work? How did you solve the Serial Number problem?
I did the work. And I solved the serial issue by skipping that rivet all together.
Why not just use the Ace AKFX-FS? Does it not have everything you need?
http://riflestocks.com/store/product2.html
I haven't seen that before. I am more familiar with the Stormwerkz one, so I'd recommend that. This one looks like a copy of Stormwerkz's design. Not saying it is, just that it looks like it is.
The Stormwerkz one locks in the folded position, not sure if the ACE one does. Although I do know that the ACE stock there is excellent.
Breacher 217
05-29-13, 21:11
I sent in my form 1 yesterday for my M92. Thanks for all the pics to get me motivated.
Moose-Knuckle
05-29-13, 21:50
I see my Pap m92 sbr getting some attention in this thread. It deserves it ;) it turned out well.
http://i44.tinypic.com/11m3og7.jpg
Info on that mag pouch please.
KalashniKEV
05-30-13, 08:58
I am more familiar with the Stormwerkz one, so I'd recommend that. This one looks like a copy of Stormwerkz's design.
Stormwerkz doesn't make a stock, they make a hinge for ACE, Tromix, or HDPS stocks.
It is not clear from the description on their website, but it is probably designed to work with straight cut/standard rear trunnions rather than the angled trunnion of the M92.
Info on that mag pouch please.
that is the Comstock Rifle Tack "discrete heat" rig.
http://www.comstockrifletack.com/2012/06/discreet-heat-low-profile-chest-rig.html
Just an ultra simple, ultra low profile chest rack.
Moose-Knuckle
05-30-13, 14:53
that is the Comstock Rifle Tack "discrete heat" rig.
http://www.comstockrifletack.com/2012/06/discreet-heat-low-profile-chest-rig.html
Just an ultra simple, ultra low profile chest rack.
Awesome, thanks for the link.
Stormwerkz doesn't make a stock, they make a hinge for ACE, Tromix, or HDPS stocks.
It is not clear from the description on their website, but it is probably designed to work with straight cut/standard rear trunnions rather than the angled trunnion of the M92.
I know. I was referring to the folding mechanism.
Americanel
10-12-13, 19:38
That's probably one of the coolest Draco's I've ever seen!
i have found upper rail from Ultimak
http://ultimak.com/m13.htm
but don't know the type of lower rail, because the Zastava M92, hope that fit
http://ultimak.com/ACR2Compact.htm
The link image of Ak is really really really cool! I love the full cover of rail....amazing, any know other link for see other side of Draco?
7.62WildBill
12-25-13, 08:37
My stamp finally showed up last month, and now I am nearly finished with the M92. Just a little filing and paint on the wedge, then it will be ready for final assembly. I used a 6 position Mil-spec diameter tube, Noveske QD endplate, Magpul CTR (and Magpul AK grip), Ace AR style folding mechanism bolted through a custom machined steel wedge to a steel backing plate.
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s488/wildwoodbill000/4d62c294-842a-4eda-b068-577ea9dce2a1_zps231d1603.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/wildwoodbill000/media/4d62c294-842a-4eda-b068-577ea9dce2a1_zps231d1603.jpg.html)
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s488/wildwoodbill000/d485bcee-9d6a-42e8-8405-aaa9edf501e4_zps42a0da1a.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/wildwoodbill000/media/d485bcee-9d6a-42e8-8405-aaa9edf501e4_zps42a0da1a.jpg.html)
I made the hand guard myself using wenge with a polyurethane over epoxy finish. This pic was before the finish was applied.
Doc. Holiday
12-26-13, 09:52
Lookin good!
ramairthree
02-08-14, 19:24
You can also consider the VZ58 stock option.
They are available for about 75 dollars.
On a Draco, you drill and tap the rear trunnion and make a cut out for the notch.
The M92 is not as thick a rear trunion, so people drill it, then weld a nut on the inside.
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