View Full Version : Kalifornia moving to embrace pedophilia as a natural orientation!
http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/04/03/pedophilia-is-a-sexual-orientation-under-ca-bill/
Sound familiar...
Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality.
VooDoo6Actual
04-30-13, 12:48
Any surprises ?
Moving that normalcy bias / overton window / cult of personality again through Social Engineering.
Social Darwinism's beaming example.
Magic_Salad0892
04-30-13, 12:56
Seriously. What the ****?
(Btw, the gay community is going to be mad as shit that they're being compared to pedophiles in state legislation.)
Seriously. What the ****?
(Btw, the gay community is going to be mad as shit that they're being compared to pedophiles in state legislation.)
Rightly so. I don't care what your persuasion, being compared to lowlife ****ing child predators would be offensive.
Compared how? If the social sciences conclude that both homosexuality and pedophilia are both innate sexual (dis)orientations, that does not mean that they are comparing them one to the other.
The problem is that the field itself has been utterly corrupted by leftist ideology. The desire to sodomize other males is no more "simply the other side of the coin" of the natural relations between a man and his wife than is the desire to sodomize a child, or any other sexual perversion. There is the normal, natural, and healthy attraction between men and women, and then there is everything else, pedophilia, pederasty, necrophilia, beastiality, homosexuality, etc.
Right, but two consenting adults can do whatever the **** they want to each other. Raping kids is hardly the same thing.
Alpha Sierra
04-30-13, 13:33
There is no slippery slope here.....nosireebob. Move along now, nothing to see.
Magic_Salad0892
04-30-13, 13:34
Compared how? If the social sciences conclude that both homosexuality and pedophilia are both innate sexual (dis)orientations, that does not mean that they are comparing them one to the other.
The problem is that the field itself has been utterly corrupted by leftist ideology. The desire to sodomize other males is no more "simply the other side of the coin" of the natural relations between a man and his wife than is the desire to sodomize a child, or any other sexual perversion. There is the normal, natural, and healthy attraction between men and women, and then there is everything else, pedophilia, pederasty, necrophilia, beastiality, homosexuality, etc.
Somehow I knew I'd see you in this thread.
There is no possible way to compare the relationship between two consenting non-related adults to pedophilia, which is (in many cases) violent in nature.
But whatever, anything that defends gay folk is automatically a "militant leftist agenda". So I guess I'm a dirty Socialist.
However, you're also the same dude who said that people who get tattoos are emotionally unstable. (I guess I shouldn't own guns, huh?)
RogerinTPA
04-30-13, 14:17
Yeah that's right, lets classify and celebrate more sexually deviant mental disorders as 'normal'. How bout gay couples claiming infertility to get state sponsored health insurance. I LMFAO on that one. As California goes, so goes the nation...
CarlosDJackal
04-30-13, 15:16
Seriously. What the ****?
(Btw, the gay community is going to be mad as shit that they're being compared to pedophiles in state legislation.)
You mean just as actual minorities are being compared to the LGBT community as "minorities"?
This is the natural progression of embracing unnatural acts (IE: homosexuality) as normal. I guess since murdering them before they are born is now acceptable as a "choice" for the promiscuous; using them as a sexual object by the deviant pales in comparison.
I weep for our children.
Moose-Knuckle
04-30-13, 15:22
And yet some here laughed when a few of us said in the thread that has since been locked that pedophilia is well on its way of being "accepted" and just another orientation with special rights from things like "hate speech". Another engine of social change brought to you in part by liberal progressives.
Somehow I knew I'd see you in this thread.
There is no possible way to compare the relationship between two consenting non-related adults to pedophilia, which is (in many cases) violent in nature.
But whatever, anything that defends gay folk is automatically a "militant leftist agenda". So I guess I'm a dirty Socialist.
However, you're also the same dude who said that people who get tattoos are emotionally unstable. (I guess I shouldn't own guns, huh?)
Finally some rational thoughts. I work in online safety for a living and deal with child pornography every day. It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. 91 percent of the images found on line are prepubescent victims. The VAST majority of the predators we investigate are male. The VAST majority involve a male predator and a female victim.
THe assertions linking pedophilia to homosexuality is obsurd and is what happens when you see the world exclusively with ideologically tinted lenses.
Frankly I have taught several pistol classes for the gay community. People are anxious to defend themselves, are squared away, and eager to learn. You know what, now they are heavily armed, trained and vote for gun rights.... and I pity the bigot who tries to victimize one of them. In this day and age we should be building bridges with underserved communities not vilifying them or equating them with rapists. As soon as we figure out that the 2nd amendment won't e saived by straight, white, right of center men, the better of we will all be. We need to build bridges an expand gun rights and this rhetoric doesn't help.
Pandora's box has been opened and this is just the beginning. Already a push for legalizing polygamy. Here's where we are heading:
http://www.therightscoop.com/institution-of-marriage-should-not-exist-gay-activist-admits-we-lie-that-marriage-wont-change/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRightScoop+%28The+Right+Scoop%29
Littlelebowski
04-30-13, 15:43
Finally some rational thoughts. I work in online safety for a living and deal with child pornography every day. It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. 91 percent of the images found on line are prepubescent victims. The VAST majority of the predators we investigate are male. The VAST majority involve a male predator and a female victim.
THe assertions linking pedophilia to homosexuality is obsurd and is what happens when you see the world exclusively with ideologically tinted lenses.
Frankly I have taught several pistol classes for the gay community. People are anxious to defend themselves, are squared away, and eager to learn. You know what, now they are heavily armed, trained and vote for gun rights.... and I pity the bigot who tries to victimize one of them. In this day and age we should be building bridges with underserved communities not vilifying them or equating them with rapists. As soon as we figure out that the 2nd amendment won't e saived by straight, white, right of center men, the better of we will all be. We need to build bridges an expand gun rights and this rhetoric doesn't help.
Excellent post, thank you for sharing.
Skeptical... I just read the text of SB 1172 (really bored at work) and didn't find a single statement that indicates pedophilia is protected as a sexual orientation. Not even one that could be slanted that way.
In fact, the text includes language to specify that "sexual orientation change efforts" does NOT include "interventions to prevent unlawful sexual conduct". In other words, I read this to mean that it specifically say that therapists/etc. are not banned from addressing illegal conduct. And I'm guessing pedophilia is still actually illegal in CA.
I'm no defender of CA either, but the linked article in the OP seems to make a pretty big leap. Am I missing something?
Alpha Sierra
04-30-13, 16:06
The fact that pedophilia and homosexuality are not related does not negate the fact that both are deviant and abnormal behaviors.
Seriously. What the ****?
(Btw, the gay community is going to be mad as shit that they're being compared to pedophiles in state legislation.)
If it's ok to do to gun owners and nobody seems to object...
Finally some rational thoughts. I work in online safety for a living and deal with child pornography every day. It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. 91 percent of the images found on line are prepubescent victims. The VAST majority of the predators we investigate are male. The VAST majority involve a male predator and a female victim.
THe assertions linking pedophilia to homosexuality is obsurd and is what happens when you see the world exclusively with ideologically tinted lenses.
Frankly I have taught several pistol classes for the gay community. People are anxious to defend themselves, are squared away, and eager to learn. You know what, now they are heavily armed, trained and vote for gun rights.... and I pity the bigot who tries to victimize one of them. In this day and age we should be building bridges with underserved communities not vilifying them or equating them with rapists. As soon as we figure out that the 2nd amendment won't e saived by straight, white, right of center men, the better of we will all be. We need to build bridges an expand gun rights and this rhetoric doesn't help.
http://www.pinkpistols.org/
Skeptical... I just read the text of SB 1172 (really bored at work) and didn't find a single statement that indicates pedophilia is protected as a sexual orientation. Not even one that could be slanted that way.
In fact, the text includes language to specify that "sexual orientation change efforts" does NOT include "interventions to prevent unlawful sexual conduct". In other words, I read this to mean that it specifically say that therapists/etc. are not banned from addressing illegal conduct. And I'm guessing pedophilia is still actually illegal in CA.
I'm no defender of CA either, but the linked article in the OP seems to make a pretty big leap. Am I missing something?
LOL. Did we just get propagandad again?
Sound familiar...
When I was stationed at Leavenworth I often drank next to a Federal prison shrink, his prison had a lot of child molesters, he said they are incurable because they are born that way, they are naturally attracted to prepubescent children. We just don't accept that behavior today. The first Greek to suggest that sex with prepubescent children was wrong was killed.
I'm all for progressives taking their policies to their logical conclusions, it seems the only way to get the low information voter to notice.
Magic_Salad0892
04-30-13, 17:43
Finally some rational thoughts. I work in online safety for a living and deal with child pornography every day. It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. 91 percent of the images found on line are prepubescent victims. The VAST majority of the predators we investigate are male. The VAST majority involve a male predator and a female victim.
THe assertions linking pedophilia to homosexuality is obsurd and is what happens when you see the world exclusively with ideologically tinted lenses.
Frankly I have taught several pistol classes for the gay community. People are anxious to defend themselves, are squared away, and eager to learn. You know what, now they are heavily armed, trained and vote for gun rights.... and I pity the bigot who tries to victimize one of them. In this day and age we should be building bridges with underserved communities not vilifying them or equating them with rapists. As soon as we figure out that the 2nd amendment won't e saived by straight, white, right of center men, the better of we will all be. We need to build bridges an expand gun rights and this rhetoric doesn't help.
That's great, man. Thanks for sharing that.
Magic_Salad0892
04-30-13, 17:44
Yeah that's right, lets classify and celebrate more sexually deviant mental disorders as 'normal'. How bout gay couples claiming infertility to get state sponsored health insurance. I LMFAO on that one. As California goes, so goes the nation...
Yeah, that shit should be fraud.
Magic_Salad0892
04-30-13, 17:45
You mean just as actual minorities are being compared to the LGBT community as "minorities"?
This is the natural progression of embracing unnatural acts (IE: homosexuality) as normal. I guess since murdering them before they are born is now acceptable as a "choice" for the promiscuous; using them as a sexual object by the deviant pales in comparison.
I weep for our children.
Scientists, and psychologists would disagree with that statement.
Straight Shooter
04-30-13, 21:46
Do a little research on a ****er named Peter Singer.
And I don't mean just read what Wikipedia says, either.
Nutshell: this SHIT is a "per-fesser" at Berkely U., and a "Senior Feller" in some fag-assed society that all the elites just rave about, I forget the name.
He has written books, taught, lectured, and advocated for YEARS the following demonic shit:
1.Pedophilia..as long as the "child isn't hurt, and its mutually agreeable".
2. Beastiality. Yep, you guessed it..."as long as the animal isn't injured".
3. Euthenasia. For both elderly, and the newly born. This demon from hell has actually advocated killing babies "up to 30 days old", if mental or physical defects are found at birth. Or basically if the mother just decides she doesn't want it anymore.
There is more crap like this from him, and MANY others. Just think, he is a paid "per-fesser" and making damn good coin espousing this shit.
GeorgiaBoy
04-30-13, 21:49
Scientists, and psychologists would disagree with that statement.
They are just pawns in the homofacist marxist leninist buddhist Cuomo agenda. Didn't you know that?
MountainRaven
04-30-13, 21:55
They are just pawns in the homofacist marxist leninist buddhist Cuomo agenda. Didn't you know that?
You forgot to mention Obama.
;)
Skeptical... I just read the text of SB 1172 (really bored at work) and didn't find a single statement that indicates pedophilia is protected as a sexual orientation. Not even one that could be slanted that way.
In fact, the text includes language to specify that "sexual orientation change efforts" does NOT include "interventions to prevent unlawful sexual conduct". In other words, I read this to mean that it specifically say that therapists/etc. are not banned from addressing illegal conduct. And I'm guessing pedophilia is still actually illegal in CA.
I'm no defender of CA either, but the linked article in the OP seems to make a pretty big leap. Am I missing something?
CA SB 1172 was signed into law by Gov. Brown back in September 2012. It bans the use of conversion therapy on minors. You are right that the law currently has nothing to do with pedophilia, necrophilia or the raping of 5 year olds in India.
The federal bill being proposed by Rep. Jackie Speier (CA-D) can be read in full here...
http://speier.house.gov/images/shok-speier%20resolution.pdf
At this point, the language is pretty vague and open to interpretation. However, it also does not mention pedophilia, necrophilia or raping 5 year old girls in India.
The article posted by the OP is no means the epitome of objective journalism.
LOL. Did we just get propagandad again?
It's not propaganda if it's from the right-wing nut jobs.:rolleyes:
Everything I posted above was discovered using the "search" button on Google. Some of you are doing a real good job of believing the first thing you read on the internet and reinforcing the stereotype of dumb Republicans.
Scientists, and psychologists would disagree with that statement.
While true they will also be the first to admit that they advocate for purposely evolving notions of what is considered normal vs abnormal so as to better reflect the collective attitude of society at the time. I got in many arguments with my professors over the whole homosexuality debacle as to many if seemed far more in my opinion to let their political beliefs cloud their clinical reasoning. Calling something something else just because one wants to doesnt make it true.As an example homosexuality is accepted as "normal" yet gender identity disorder is still listed in the DSM and is diagnosable. Hmmm
As for pedophilia there is already plenty of acceptance for it in the field, atleast clinically but thankfully the law puts limits on what type of behavior is allowable and those limits are really low, in most places. This attitude is eventually going to change, just look at Colorado.
Personally I see homosexuality and pedophilia as identical in the sense that they are both the result of some underlying psychological aberration. On difference is that we as a society more or less accept because its the in thing to do and we pride ourselves on tolerance, but in both cases both populations are subject predispositions and urges they can't control yet only one set of behaviors are regarded as markedly deviant due to society's moral compass.
Can someone define "pedophilia"? Just curious because although we generally consider sex between an adult 18 or over and the minor being under 18 (or whatever the age of consent is in that state) there are other parts of the world (Mexico and South America) where the age of consent is much younger (as young as 12 in some cases). Europe is the same.
That means it is perfectly legal. As for the homosexual aspect of it, I'll just say that before it was vogue in the U.S to come out and then have your own TV show, video game, book deal, etc.... it was quite common to see gay couples in places like Europe.
The world doesn't always revolve around what we think and do in the U.S. I am not condoning any of these activities nor am I saying that we should be like Europe or anywhere else. But, in some ways they are more "open" than we are. You can drink in many places at a young age and we don't seem to hear about dead teenagers all over the roads. They also tend to more sexually active at younger ages as I recall and I don't think there is an exploding teenage pregnancy rate.
It's funny how we in the U.S want the gov't to stay away from our guns, money and in some cases our lives altogether and yet we are perfectly content to allow them to define "marriage".
I think the gov't should stay out of my bedroom, my bank account and my gunsafe.
Can someone define "pedophilia"?.
Having sex with or being attracted to prepubescent chidren.
Having sex with or being attracted to prepubescent chidren.
I believe pedophilia means one is attracted to children. Pederasty is the act of being amorous with children.
Littlelebowski
05-01-13, 10:12
MILFphile, myself :D
RogerinTPA
05-01-13, 10:50
I believe pedophilia means one is attracted to children. Pederasty is the act of being amorous with children.
Like NAMBLA...
Magic_Salad0892
05-01-13, 12:39
MILFphile, myself :D
Breasts after breastfeeding. Not sure if I dig that.
Can someone define "pedophilia"? Just curious because although we generally consider sex between an adult 18 or over and the minor being under 18 (or whatever the age of consent is in that state) there are other parts of the world (Mexico and South America) where the age of consent is much younger (as young as 12 in some cases). Europe is the same.
That means it is perfectly legal. As for the homosexual aspect of it, I'll just say that before it was vogue in the U.S to come out and then have your own TV show, video game, book deal, etc.... it was quite common to see gay couples in places like Europe.
The world doesn't always revolve around what we think and do in the U.S. I am not condoning any of these activities nor am I saying that we should be like Europe or anywhere else. But, in some ways they are more "open" than we are. You can drink in many places at a young age and we don't seem to hear about dead teenagers all over the roads. They also tend to more sexually active at younger ages as I recall and I don't think there is an exploding teenage pregnancy rate.
It's funny how we in the U.S want the gov't to stay away from our guns, money and in some cases our lives altogether and yet we are perfectly content to allow them to define "marriage".
I think the gov't should stay out of my bedroom, my bank account and my gunsafe.
http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia.html
Historically, particularly in western civilization, pedophilia is defined as an intense sexual interest in pre-pubescent children, while the same attraction to youth(roughly 12-18)is defined as pederasty.....
The focus of pedophilia is sexual activity with a child. Many courts interpret this reference to age to mean children under the age of 18. Most mental health professionals, however, confine the definition of pedophilia to sexual activity with prepubescent children, who are generally age 13 or younger. The term ephebophilia , derived from the Greek word for "youth," is sometimes used to describe sexual interest in young people in the first stages of puberty.
Read more: http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia.html#ixzz2S46rIX45
GeorgiaBoy
05-01-13, 13:11
Historically, particularly in western civilization, pedophilia is defined as an intense sexual interest in pre-pubescent children, while the same attraction to youth(roughly 12-18)is defined as pederasty.....
No; Pedastry is exclusive the sexual attraction of adult males for adolescent (12-17) boys.
Hebephilia (11-14) and ephebophilia (15-19) are the the broader terms for attraction to adolescent youth.
This is no surprise. The gay mafia paved the way for the next several waves of sexual deviants. OUTSTANDING!
These tags fit me: ultra conservative, closet homophobe, provincial, educated(earned doctorate), patriot.
My opinion is that pedophilia occurs among straights and gays, and since the heterosexual population is the largest of the two groups, then more pedophiles are found here. Another opinion is that death is the only cure for pedophilia. Another is that once enduring this abuse, a child's life is ruined forever, and sadly, the child may become an abuser later in life.
Sometimes I think that certain conservative commentators bait us with sensationalism(pedophilia will be legalized)--for what reason I don't know. And why is the gay word such a hot button issue? Am I an apologist for gays? My attitude colors me as homophobic, but I ain't a rabid homophobic. I'm more concerned about 200,000 other things.
When teaching school, I overheard two inner city girls talking about butt sex. One declared that it's ok if it ain't your butt.
See Daniel Patrick Moynihan's famous article, Defining Deviancy Down. It doesn't really matter if homosexuality is DIRECTLY related to pedophilia in any way. The principle of perpetually moving the cultural goalposts, redefining long-established standards and deviancy (always downward), is the same. I won't be surprised in the least when, in a couple of years, somebody wants to marry his bicycle, 2 or 3 of his friends, or his Shetland pony.
http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/formans/DefiningDeviancy.htm
Straight Shooter
05-01-13, 16:14
maximus83-
As far as the Shetland pony, and 2-3 friends marrying, your already late to THAT party.
Again, a sick mofo that the state of Kalifornia pays a nice salary to, already prescribed just those things, YEARS ago.
See my post above.
Any surprises ?
Moving that normalcy bias / overton window / cult of personality again through Social Engineering.
Social Darwinism's beaming example.
Right on.
You mean just as actual minorities are being compared to the LGBT community as "minorities"?
I weep for our children.
No shit!
Great call. I despise that crap!
"One man with courage makes a majority."
As bad as I hate to paraphrase RATM...
There's nothing proper about your propaganda.
This is sick. Shout it and help the defenseless.
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